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10-10-2005, 10:03 PM
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What's going on with Kiprusoff?

And Calgary in general, really?

I know that it's early in the season, but I was one of the ones that predicted Calgary to remain a top team...and I expected Kipper to have a slight backslide, but nothing like three six-goal games in the first week. Can Flames fans provide some insight as to what exactly is going wrong? I watched parts of the Wings game and parts of tonight's game against the Avs and they're getting run all over.

Again, I know it's early in the season...and this isn't mean to be a trolling thread, I'm genuinely shocked\curious.

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PS, Kipper is killing two of my fantasy teams

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Their Defense Is The Greatest!!!!!11 Prepare To Be Phaneufed!!!!!!1111

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The flames have been/are overrated. They've no offence. They added Amonte (who's washep up imo) and Hamrlik (who's a good d but they've too much depht). Kiprusoff was maybe a one year wonder but he has a weaker team , in front of him. You're going to lose often, in the new NHL if you haven't a strong offence.

It's too early to judge, the first ten games rarely tell how good a team is but they're overrated...

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I'll tell you exactly what the **** is going on. The entire Flames team is playing like absolute *** right now.

The worst part is, it's not due to a lack of talent. They just simply aren't trying.

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The flames have been hyped up during the offseason as much as Sidney Crosby.

But its only been a few games and I really hope they can turn things around.

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A couple guys in my fantasy leagues are feeling that pain too.. not me...

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The team played very defensivly last year in the playoffs, and cleared pucks out after one shot. Also, their sucess could be somewhat attributed to plays that can now be called as an obstruction penalty.

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The team clutched and grabbed last year in the playoffs...

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My guess is that it is a combination of the pressure to excel is getting to the players and that now that the Flames are a predicted top team other teams aren't taking them lightly anymore. They'll get back on track eventually, but I seriously doubt if they have what it takes to be a top 3 team in the West like many people have predicted.

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Barry Melrose picking the Flames to win the Cup was the kiss of death. There is a cycle most teams go through after going to the Finals. The Kings missed the playoffs after their Cup Finals appearance in '93. It happened to the Hurricanes, the Ducks and the same will apply with the Flames.

I think they also lost the "heart" of the team when they let Conroy go, on top of losing great character guys in Gelinas and Chris Clark.

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Well, Sutter has not adjust to the new NHL yet...and probably never will....

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Just early season struggles. It happens to some. I think we saw in the World Cup that the Kiprusoff we saw in 2004 is the real one, the problem is up front. There is not enough depth. With Amonte and Iginla with Langkow on the same line all their eggs are in one basket

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Just early season struggles. It happens to some. I think we saw in the World Cup that the Kiprusoff we saw in 2004 is the real one
Jim Carrey.

Okay, not that severe, Kiprusoff was a solid goalie last season, but he is by no means elite.

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As I've always said, one of the big reasons that Cinderella turns back into the pumpkin the next year is how *other* teams play them. Every team sees that Cup finalist coming into the rink, and they really go out there and attempt to show them who's better. In the past, they were a team who continually missed the playoffs and who you might play your backup goalie against, or you might overlook, etc. In essence, they become the measuring stick the next year.

And yeah, it won't last all year, but I'm sure enjoying the lack of flames trolls around the boards right now.

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as people said it here, right After Carolina, Anahiem made cinderella runs, their teams sucked the year after. Not being able to clutch and grab is allowing teams to skate circles around the Flames Defence. Love to see them lose.

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It's got nothing to do with the new rules or the Cup run.

It's all about effort... specifically, a lack of it.

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So much for my @#$% 1st round fantasy draft pick.

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PS, Kipper is killing two of my fantasy teams
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as people said it here, right After Carolina, Anahiem made cinderella runs, their teams sucked the year after. Not being able to clutch and grab is allowing teams to skate circles around the Flames Defence. Love to see them lose.
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And Calgary in general, really?

I know that it's early in the season, but I was one of the ones that predicted Calgary to remain a top team.
I think your problem lies with that statement. Calgary was only a top team for a couple of months. This is the same team that only made the playoffs by 5 points last season and missed them by 17 points the season before. No matter how you slice it, the pieces fell together for them when it counted. Following this, they were then predicted by the majority of analysts and fans to not only with their division, but also the conference. It's as if we learnt nothing from Anaheim and Carolina. I'm not saying that Calgary is a bad team that got lucky, but a team needs to earn their way to elite status with consistent performance. Far too much has been expected of the Flames. They're a better team than their record indicates, but they should not be "assumed" to be an elite team yet.

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PS, Kipper is killing two of my fantasy teams
Mine as well.

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If Kiprusoff hadn't have played in those games, the opposition would have scored at least 10 times. He's been standing on his head (although he hasn't looked that great tonight.. but he was solid against Detroit and Minnesota)

The Flames are just playing bad. I never expected them to challenge for the conference or anything like that; but I would have never expected to come out of the gate like this. They are a middle seed in my opinion, somewhere between 4-7.

They just aren't playing good hockey right now. The only way they were ever going to be successful was by playign good defence (not clutch and grab hockey). They are playing like garbage on the defensive side of the puck and the scores are reflecting that.

That said, it's Game 4 of 82. It's still early and there's no reason to jump off the deep end yet (although I'm sure there are a lot of broken ankles from everybody jumping off the bandwagon).

But there's definitley a lot of room for improvement.

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now the entire hockey world knows what everyone in San Jose already knew...Kipper is a superior back up/so-so starter at best.

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