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10-14-2005, 10:15 AM
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Chances of Jagr breaking Adam's record?

What are the chances of Jagr breaking Adam's record of 52 goals?

The first obvious consideration is health. Crackdown on obstruction, clutching etc. should help. I think some personnel changes on the PP need to be done as it's pretty obvious what we do (Jagr right circle, etc.). He is 4 seasons removed from scoring 52 goals with Pittsburgh. He needs to stay on the ice and out of the sin bin.


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If he can stay healthy for 80 games, I think theres a decent chance he could break it.

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hes on pace for about 65 right now, we will see.

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If he's healthy and doesn't completely lose interest when we lose a lot i think he has a very good chance. I'm a big Graves fan but I'd like to see it.

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What are the chances of Jagr breaking Adam's record of 52 goals?

The first obvious consideration is health. Crackdown on obstruction, clutching etc. should help. I think some personnel changes on the PP need to be done as it's pretty obvious what we do (Jagr right circle, etc.). He is 4 seasons removed from scoring 52 goals with Pittsburgh. He needs to stay on the ice and out of the sin bin.


Career stats: http://www.nhl.com/players/8448208.html

I was also thinking that Jagr has a chance to break Jurri Kurri's total goals record (for a european).

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Allot of parts of our game will need to work for him to reach 52. He needs to start getting some even strength goals ect.

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Its possible.

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I was also thinking that Jagr has a chance to break Jurri Kurri's total goals record (for a european).
60 more goals is a little bit of a stretch, but before the end of next year he will definitely have broken it

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60 more goals is a little bit of a stretch, but before the end of next year he will definitely have broken it
Yea, I didn't mean this year. :-)

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10-14-2005, 02:41 PM
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He needs to start scoring even strength goals. With playing with Prucha and Nylander I believe he will score and hopefully set them up

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50+ goals shoul be in reach for him this year.

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i think, he could but it depends on if the penalties keep being called, and Nylander keeps feeding him the puck, i am not sure he'll get 100 points though, no1 on his line can REALLY finish. Nylander never shoots and Prucha is too green to put up big totals Rucinsky probably wont get more then 20 goals..

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10-14-2005, 07:35 PM
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Jagr's hit 50 goals...

twice in his career...once when he was five years younger (52) and another (60+) when he was a good deal younger than that. Even if he stays healthy, given his past performances, it may be a stretch to say he'll break any records, and don't try to extrapolate current goals to determine what he'll get. I doubt Savard gets 100+ points, ditto Eric Staal, who recently had a big game and has 8 points.

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yeah he has only reached it twice, but with the amount of powerplayers and a bit of freedom without guys jumping all over him hooking, surely those 30-40 totals might sneak up to the 52 mark

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Jagr's strength has never been as a huge earth shattering goal guy (think a young Gretz/Hull type).

His offensive skill creates more pure offense than anything else. So say a healthy and hungry Jagr nets 40-45 goals, he's capable of 110 points and more importantly for creating room for lesser guys to get higher than normal point productions as well.

Mark Messier was that way in his prime. Realistically Messier was only about a 35 goal scorer really, but he was a 100 point player and "created" offense.

52 goals in today's NHL is still very hard, rule changes or otherwise.

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I was thinking today that he might have a shot at the PPG record, which I believe is 34 held by Tim Kerr.

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10-15-2005, 02:37 AM
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All I have to say is I looked up the scores tonight and I saw a 6-5 OT game and a freaking 9-1 score. Those are scores that I was used to seeing 10-15+ years ago. I think scoring will come down a little but it surely will be up from the past 10 years and thats what's going to make it hard to predict any personal stats for this season.

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10-15-2005, 04:12 AM
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It's very possible if he keeps playing the way he is playing. Right now he really seems inspired to play good hard hockey, something we have not seen since his days in Pitt. If he's happy in NY, and happy with his teamates, and stays focused on leading the Rangers, 50 is not out of reach.

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10-15-2005, 05:37 AM
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as long as the team is successful i dont think it'll matter how many goals he scores

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10-15-2005, 07:59 AM
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Jc...

it's tough to tell now. These guys haven't played as units for at least a year. Some didn't even play at all last year. There's new coaches, a good deal of younger players. There's new rules, and not just the way in which penalties are called. It's a learning experience. I think that the goal scoring will come down as teams get back into shape, learn the rules, and become better accustomed to teammates and coaches. The Rangers were somewhat at an advantage with so many Czech fowards who have played together, as well as a couple defensemen. That advantage won't last long.

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10-15-2005, 08:47 AM
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I know Jagr has scored a lot already but i'm kind of suprised that he has been totally a perimeter player this year. Think about it he has scored all his goals from wrist shots from the perimeter. I'm a little suprised that he has not displayed his strength and overall skills more.

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