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View Poll Results: Should the Habs Re-Sign Sylvain Lefebvre
Yes 7 3.03%
No, time for change 192 83.12%
Who's Sylvain Lefebvre? 10 4.33%
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03-19-2017, 11:06 PM
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Exactly. If prospects succeed he's doing his job if not then the scouts are not doing their. I would like to have a job like that where i can't be criticized for my work.

The fact is his job is to give those kids an environment where they can develop. They might not develop but he still need to provide them this environment. For me it starts with making the ***** playoffs. Not making the playoffs here and there can be excused by a lack of skills. But if they miss it again this year it's gonna be 5 years in a row and the coach must be accountable for that there's absolutely no doubt in my mind.
Again man, can you tell me what prospect has been ruined by Sly in your opinion?

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Again man, can you tell me what prospect has been ruined by Sly in your opinion?
Where did i say he ruined a prospect?

What i say is he needs to provide an environment for them to develop. I just can't see how anyone (as not a single person in the universe) can consider a losing environment where you miss the playoffs every year a perfect environment where kids can develop. I just can't. They are missing important experience. Playoffs is the best experience you can get to grow as a player.

It matters. There's absolutely no other way around. It doesn't ruin prospects. But it can slow down the development a bit. We can't afford that with Juulsen incoming next season imo.

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i will give the benefit of the doubt to timmins wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before i give it to Lefebvre.

i can say Timmins has a few achievements as a chief scout, I cant say a single thing about "Sly" as a coach.

so Lefevre is out without even an aftertought. then will see in 3-4 years if Timmins really deserves to be replaced when we see a qualified coach bringing our 20+ into the league.. let me tell you I'm way more concern of timmins haunting us elsewhere than Lefebre doing anything as a coach.

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Timmins got extended last summer. Lefebvre hasn't been and his contract is up this year. Right now, it comes off to me that the organization doesn't think the draft picks are the issue.
Let's take a look at the players he got draft by draft.

In 2012 Chucky made the team bypassing the AHL then you have :

Collberg= bust
Thrower= injuries killed him , bust
Bozon= same as Thrower
Vail=bust
Hudon= looks good!
Nystrom=bust

In 2013

BigMac= currently on the team!
DLR =64 NHL games , still developing
Fucale= long shot still developing
Lehkonen= currently on the team
Crisp=bust
Ghetto= made the NHL
Reway= we'll never know...
Gregoire= too slow

In 2014
Scherbak is down there developing so is Lernout and Audette.

I mean , I understand he's there for 5 years but if you look at those picks he got Hudon , Andrighetto, DLR, BigMac and Scherbak to work with.

Who was ruined?

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Let's take a look at the players he got draft by draft.

In 2012 Chucky made the team bypassing the AHL then you have :

Collberg= bust
Thrower= injuries killed him , bust
Bozon= same as Thrower
Vail=bust
Hudon= looks good!
Nystrom=bust

In 2013

BigMac= currently on the team!
DLR =64 NHL games , still developing
Fucale= long shot still developing
Lehkonen= currently on the team
Crisp=bust
Ghetto= made the NHL
Reway= we'll never know...
Gregoire= too slow

In 2014
Scherbak is down there developing so is Lernout and Audette.

I mean , I understand he's there for 5 years but if you look at those picks he got Hudon , Andrighetto, DLR, BigMac and Scherbak to work with.

Who was ruined?
I'm not arguing if he's ruined anyone. I just think that looking at Timmins being extended and Lefebvre not, I don't think the organization thinks the scouting and drafting is the problem.

And in all honesty, I think that if Bergevin was satisfied, he'd have extended Lefebvre by now.

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