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10-10-2003, 06:12 AM
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Although he makes a lot of money, I still have to go with Mike Modano. He should be the NHL's poster boy.

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mike modano, but if salary is taken into consideration, joe thornton

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Using those criteria, Mike Modano or Sergei Fedorov.
The two first names that came to my mind.

But because of salary, I'm trying to find a "better package deal"

How much does Brindy make? And Demitra?

Bertuzzi might be my choice too. This is a tough question...

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10-10-2003, 07:04 AM
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Yzerman
Sakic
Lidstrom
Iginla
Francis

That's my list. Thornton would be ther if not for his brush with the law in that fight.

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The two first names that came to my mind.

But because of salary, I'm trying to find a "better package deal"

How much does Brindy make? And Demitra?

Bertuzzi might be my choice too. This is a tough question...

Brind'amour is on a huge contract. Last I checked, Brindy made $5 million per year, and he's still got like, $15 million left on his contract I think.

Demitra just got a $6.5 million, 1 year deal.

Bertuzzi is set to make $3.8 million, however if he has a season like he did last year, it's likely Bertuzzi will actually make around $4.5 (bonuses).

Modano makes I think $9 million

Naslund makes $5.2 million base, he'll probobly take home $5.5 - $6 though.

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10-10-2003, 08:10 AM
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Modano makes $8.5 million this season, $9.5 million next season.

The Brind'amour contract was 7 years/$35 million when signed I thought it was stupid when it happened, but it turned out well for Carolina.

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Steve Yzerman.

Or Joe Sakic.

Quiet, mature, level-headed, talent beyond reason, respected, never do anything to embarrass themselves or the game of hockey.

The only true "ideal" hockey players in the NHL today.

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10-10-2003, 10:16 AM
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Yzerman
Sakic
Lidstrom
Iginla
Francis

That's my list. Thornton would be ther if not for his brush with the law in that fight.
Agreed, but I'll add MacInnis to that list too.

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Mike Modano, Joe Sakic, Al MacInnis.

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For the sens its gotta be Mr.everything..Marian Hossa.

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The homer in me says Saku Koivu.

But, I think I'd go with Jarome Iginla.

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I think a lot of people misunderstood this thread or at least Mizral worded it wrong. An ideal hockey player should be someone who has no real weaknesses, classy (to an extent), and a good leader (not necessarily a captain either). Classy guys like Yzerman wouldn't get my vote. I see the most ideal player in the NHL today to be Marian Hossa by a long shot. If I could start a franchise it would be with him.

Hossa is fast, strong, powerful, good slap and wrist, good defensive awareness, leader, physical, agressive, classy (no cheap shots), cheap, entering his prime, and is only gonna improve

Now I may hate Ottawa but I think this guy is without a doubt the most ideal player in the NHL. He beats out guys like Modano because of his cheaper salary. Plus he can play on his own and still easily net 35 goals IMO. I am surprised I only saw his name mentioned a few times in this thread.

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10-11-2003, 12:08 AM
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Now I may hate Ottawa but I think this guy is without a doubt the most ideal player in the NHL. He beats out guys like Modano because of his cheaper salary.
How old is Hossa? What has he proven? How many contracts has he had?

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We'll see what Hossa makes when's he 33.. you simply can't compare salaries with a decade of age difference between them.

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Then give me Jere, he's arguably better and makes twice as less..
half as much even

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10-11-2003, 07:43 AM
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Homer vote: Trevor Linden aka Mr. Vancouver.
That's how I interpreted the question too. As in, who is the player who would put forth the best image of the "hockey player". Not who is the best power forward or anything.

For this reason, I nominate guys like Linden, Yzerman, and Wade Redden. Redden still has a private box called Wade's World, that he has operated for probably close to 6 or 7 years now for sick or disadvantaged kids. Nobody realizes it, because Redden is quiet about it.

As for most complete, cheap and young hockey players, I might have said Heatley three weeks ago. He isn't a stud defensively yet, but he is improving, and seemed to be a genuinely caring kid. He also has that "good small town Canadian kid" image attached to him.

The other one I will throw out is Marian Hossa, who is complete in every aspect of the game, and could score 50 goals and possibly 100 points this season.

But my first interpretation was for the Linden, Yzerman and Redden type of guys.

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10-11-2003, 07:49 AM
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Has to be Jere Lehtinen.

One of the best team guys around. Took a contract for about half of what he could get, just because he and his family like living in Dallas and he just wants to play hockey.

Gives it 110% every night. Never complains, no matter what his role is.

That and anyone who pisses off the NHLPA gets a nod from me.

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10-11-2003, 10:16 AM
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In all aspects - on-ice play, off-ice attitude, professionalism, salary, character, intagibles, skill level - etc..

Who would your pick?
If we take into consideration also loyalty, IŽd say Peter Bondra.

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If we take into consideration also loyalty, IŽd say Peter Bondra.
Didn't he ask for a trade a couple seasons ago? And he's no playmaker.

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10-11-2003, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Modano = God
How old is Hossa? What has he proven? How many contracts has he had?

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We'll see what Hossa makes when's he 33.. you simply can't compare salaries with a decade of age difference between them.
I didn't know I was saying Hossa is gonna be the ideal hockey player when he is 33? The thread says the ideal hockey player. IMO Hossa is the ideal hockey player being on 24, being almost a complete player, and liking it or not having a small salary (for now). I didn't say Hossa is still gonna be the ideal hockey player 9 years from now and I doubt he will be. Hossa has proven a ton improving in all of his seasons scoring 45 goals last year and getting 35 assists. I think there is a three way tie right now for who the ideal hockey player is.

1. Hossa
2. Redden
3. Lehtinen

^^^im sure there are others similar but I hardly consider Yzerman one. Do you guys think he will play more then 60 games this season to go along with his 6 million? dollar salary?

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