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10-25-2005, 03:24 PM
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Montreal\Anaheim Proposal

Zednik Ribeiro and hainsey for Federov and brendan Mickelsson

i think the trade helps both clubs in different ways, clearly the point production of zednik and ribeiro will be more then the production of federov but fedorov does other things.

Mickelsson is a better prospect then Hainsey at this point but hainsey is NHL ready and in need of a change of scenarie and the Habs take on all the salary and that is why montreal would need a good prospect in return.

The habs would hope that federov would be happy joining a group of talented, speedy countrymen and hopefully would help montreal get into the playoffs and win a round. Federov is talented and speedy but plays when he wants to and is very expensive in the new NHL.


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This thread will get ugly very quickly and be closed.

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LMAO...

this is absolutely brutal for both teams...

close ASAP!

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At least put proposal in the title.

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I think anaheim woudl do it just to dump salary. I know Montreal wouldn't touch taht trade!

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Mikkelson is one of Anaheim's best prospects and he has top pairing potential, he will not be traded for a waiver guy in Hainsey.

Fedorov=Zednik and Ribiero (w/o salary considerations)

Mikkelson>>>>>Hainsey

The other thing is Zednik and Ribiero are not Brian Burke type players. He won't trade Fedorov for players that aren't gritty.

Isn't Hainsey on a one-way contract. There is no room for him in Anaheim so they would be stuck paying him 450,000 to play in Portland.

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10-25-2005, 10:26 PM
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As a Habs fan I want no part of Federov's giant contract because we need cap space to keep our captain next year. Also while Federov might be an improvment in talent over Zednik, I would still rather have Zednik because he has been great in clutch games for us, and losing Riberio would leave the Habs with a giant hole down the middle.

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10-26-2005, 06:17 AM
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What about Zednik for Vitaly Vishnevski? He's the player I want from Anaheim. The offence is not a issu for now... and keep some cap space for the end of the year. (1.8M vs 1.14M)

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10-26-2005, 07:02 AM
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What about Zednik for Vitaly Vishnevski? He's the player I want from Anaheim. The offence is not a issu for now... and keep some cap space for the end of the year. (1.8M vs 1.14M)
Burke won't trade a physical d-man for another skilled Euro forward.

We need all the grit we can get and right now Vish is one of the only Ducks that is hitting.

The Ducks have put a lot of years into developing Vishnevski and I doubt they would trade him now when he is expected to take Salei's second pairing spot next year.

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10-26-2005, 09:00 AM
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Burke won't trade a physical d-man for another skilled Euro forward.

We need all the grit we can get and right now Vish is one of the only Ducks that is hitting.
I have to disagree with this statement really this is simply a generalizations that euro players are soft when in fact Zednik is a Gritty and skilled player i dont know if the ducks would do this trade or not (likely not) but Zednik has enough value to land a player like Vish.

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10-26-2005, 06:55 PM
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zednik is very gritty and ribeiro is included because i see Federov 2nd centre

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Mikkelson is one of Anaheim's best prospects and he has top pairing potential, he will not be traded for a waiver guy in Hainsey.

Fedorov=Zednik and Ribiero (w/o salary considerations)

Mikkelson>>>>>Hainsey

The other thing is Zednik and Ribiero are not Brian Burke type players. He won't trade Fedorov for players that aren't gritty.

Isn't Hainsey on a one-way contract. There is no room for him in Anaheim so they would be stuck paying him 450,000 to play in Portland.
after ribeiros 2 goals and the fact that sergei has 1 assist in 3 games means this trade won't happen but it is funny that ducks fans don't like the deal, personally i think the ducks would be very happy with this deal, younger, cheaper more flexibility for the future and provides more depth for the ducks

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Where are the comments about Zednik coming from?

I'd say he's more gritty than skilled.

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Where are the comments about Zednik coming from?

I'd say he's more gritty than skilled.
and a good fighter Hopefully he will drop them this year again!

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10-27-2005, 11:14 AM
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Burke won't trade a physical d-man for another skilled Euro forward.

We need all the grit we can get and right now Vish is one of the only Ducks that is hitting.

The Ducks have put a lot of years into developing Vishnevski and I doubt they would trade him now when he is expected to take Salei's second pairing spot next year.
Zednik is all about grit, he has little skill with the puck. He can shoot from any angle but you wont see him stickhandle through defencemen, he's more likely to skate into them or battle them in the corner or simply dump the puck and crush them on the boards.

Oh and the proposal is brutal, Anaheim wins this one easily, most notably long term.

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personally i think the ducks would be very happy with this deal, younger, cheaper more flexibility for the future and provides more depth for the ducks
Yeah remove Mikkelson and Hainsey from the deal.

Ribiero and Zednik for Fedorov and 4th round pick.

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10-27-2005, 04:21 PM
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I like the idea of my favorite player (Feds) being traded to my favorite team (the Habs)

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If I were Gainey, I don't want a part of Federov's giant contract or want him on my team knowing his best days are behind him...

Don't get me wrong... I love Sergei Federov, but I think at the end of the day, the production you get out of Ribs and Zed will be more than you get out of Federov.

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Yeah remove Mikkelson and Hainsey from the deal.

Ribiero and Zednik for Fedorov and 4th round pick.
Can Montreal afford to add that much salary to their payroll? I'm not exactly certain where they stand but Fedorov makes a lot of coin for a guy that's only played 3 games so far this season.

Maybe it's just me but I don't see Fedorov getting dealt somewhere unless a big contract is coming back (like Peca from Edmonton) or to a team like Washington for very little. He simply makes too much money for how he's been playing lately...

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Can Montreal afford to add that much salary to their payroll? I'm not exactly certain where they stand but Fedorov makes a lot of coin for a guy that's only played 3 games so far this season.
Feds make 6 million, Zednik and Ribiero make 3 million combined. So Montreal would be adding 3 million...not sure what their salary cap situation is.

This is Fedorov's first groin injury of his career, so hopefully it's only a one time thing and he comes back next week and has a healthy season.

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10-27-2005, 09:12 PM
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For Montreal to do this Anaheim would have to eat some salary. Also, I'm not all that concerned with losing Koivu next season. He's a great leader and playmaker, but is on the downside of his career and can be replaced at reasonable cost. I'd still like him to resign for another 2 years or so, but if it doesn't happen, I'm not worried.

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As a Ducks fan I don't want anything to do with Ribeiro, that guy is a clown.

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Originally Posted by McDonald19
Burke won't trade a physical d-man for another skilled Euro forward.

We need all the grit we can get and right now Vish is one of the only Ducks that is hitting.

The Ducks have put a lot of years into developing Vishnevski and I doubt they would trade him now when he is expected to take Salei's second pairing spot next year.
Just out of curiosity, what would you think of a deal centered around Vishnevski and Souray? I'm not saying i'd want it to happen as i think once Souray regains his form/confidence/concentration he will play a big role for the habs, but if for the sake of arguement he did want to be closer to LA, what do you think of something along these lines? Would either side need to even it up? (i've not followed Vish as closely as i'd like, but from what i have seen he is a guy id like to see with the habs).

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Souray for Salei I would seriously consider...Looks like Souray could use change of scenery.

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As a Ducks fan I don't want anything to do with Ribeiro, that guy is a clown.
This board is ridiculous sometimes. He would be your teams leading scorer for gods sakes. Not only this year, but last year too.. with 15 to 17 min of ice time.

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Mikkelson is one of Anaheim's best prospects and he has top pairing potential, he will not be traded for a waiver guy in Hainsey.

Fedorov=Zednik and Ribiero (w/o salary considerations)

Mikkelson>>>>>Hainsey

The other thing is Zednik and Ribiero are not Brian Burke type players. He won't trade Fedorov for players that aren't gritty.

Isn't Hainsey on a one-way contract. There is no room for him in Anaheim so they would be stuck paying him 450,000 to play in Portland.
Zednik is gritty.

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