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10-31-2005, 10:28 PM
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With Rucinsky out, Rangers need a second scorer; Time for a trade

Rucinsky is out 2-4 weeks. There are players available and the Rangers have cap space.

Sergei Fedorov-Anaheim
Mike Comrie-Pheonix
Todd Bertuzzi-Vancouver
Martin Havlat-Ottawa (has been rumored around a bit)
Ales Hemsky-Edmonton
Keith Tkachuck-St.Louis

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or.... we can give Prucha a chance to step up.

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Rucinsky is out 2-4 weeks. There are players available and the Rangers have cap space.

Sergei Fedorov-Anaheim
Mike Comrie-Pheonix
Todd Bertuzzi-Vancouver
Martin Havlat-Ottawa (has been rumored around a bit)
Ales Hemsky-Edmonton
Keith Tkachuck-St.Louis


No we dont. We need a little guy name Petr Prucha in the lineup. What team makes a trade everytime a top player goes down with a 3 week injury?

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Rucinsky is out 2-4 weeks. There are players available and the Rangers have cap space.

Sergei Fedorov-Anaheim
Mike Comrie-Pheonix
Todd Bertuzzi-Vancouver
Martin Havlat-Ottawa (has been rumored around a bit)
Ales Hemsky-Edmonton
Keith Tkachuck-St.Louis
First of all Tkachuk and Fedorov are injured.

Bertuzzi I don't see leaving, especially not for anything we have to give.

Comrie, I have no idea.

Havlat, I don't see him going anywhere either.

Hemsky has 1 goal and 10 assists. Not exactly a scorer, just another Martin Straka.

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First of all Tkachuk and Fedorov are injured.

Bertuzzi I don't see leaving, especially not for anything we have to give.

Comrie, I have no idea.

Havlat, I don't see him going anywhere either.

Hemsky has 1 goal and 10 assists. Not exactly a scorer, just another Martin Straka.
I doubt the rangers would want to give up anything for Bertuzzi. Like he'd produce in New York. He can barely produce in the NHL these days.

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I would give up a heck of alot to grab Havlat from the Sens, he is young and brings ALOT to the table. I really cant see them trading him though, its been rumored for seemingly forever and just hasnt happened.

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No we dont. We need a little guy name Petr Prucha in the lineup. What team makes a trade everytime a top player goes down with a 3 week injury?
I agree. I would put Prucha back with Moore and add Hossa to the line, and make that the 2nd line. Hopefully, Hossa will feed off the energy, hustle and hard work that is generated by Moore and Prucha. Orts on the line with Ward and Betts and they'll outwork and outhustle anyone in NHL. Neimo, FedFed and Taffe can rot and die on the 4th line for all I care. Or trade any of those lifeless sacks with Poti to CGY for Simon.

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Why not just call up a hungry young player from our farm system? A much better idea than giving up prospects and draft picks for another thirtysomething veteran.

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Wait wait wait, is this another one of those sarcastic posts? Like the kind some people get and some don't?

I know I'm right.

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Yeah... having seen Prucha play this weekend in Hartford, I think he deserves a shot on the second line.

We don't need Martin Havlat, or anyone else on that list. We'd be screwing with the team's chemistry. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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What is Mark Messier doing these days?

Seriously,the Rangers don't need to go out and get another high priced band aid

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Definatly not the way to go by a 3 week injury.

Calling up Prucha is a much better alternative.

When it comes to trading for the following players in general?

Sergei Fedorov-Anaheim - Too old for a rebuilding team, too expencive, too bad work ethics, too much ego to pair with JJs ego
Keith Tkachuck-St.Louis - Too old for a rebuilding team, too expencive
Todd Bertuzzi-Vancouver - Too old for a rebuilding team, too expencive
Martin Havlat-Ottawa (has been rumored around a bit) - Dont see him leaving Ottawa
Ales Hemsky-Edmonton - his youth makes him interesting but he is more of a playmaker, do we need a young playmaker?
Mike Comrie-Pheonix - IF we can steal him at a very low cost Id go for it. He is under performing in Pheonix, has alot more potential and is still young. Trade him for Ville Nieminen.

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I'll say it again, if the Rangers make a play for Bertuzzi, the whole philosophy around which this team is being built: team loyalty, character, rewarding hard work goes out the window. If we trade for Bertuzzi, we get rid of Dom Moore. On paper, that's fine, but if you think about the example Moore has set for other young players in this organisation - work hard and be patient and you'll win your spot - it sends a very bad message and it's a very bad peice of man-management.

This doesn't even mention the fact that the Rangers have no business trading for Federov, Tkachuck, Bertuzzi or any other older, expensive forwards as other posters have mentioned.

For the other three, I pretty much agree with Tex.

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I'll say it again, if the Rangers make a play for Bertuzzi, the whole philosophy around which this team is being built: team loyalty, character, rewarding hard work goes out the window. If we trade for Bertuzzi, we get rid of Dom Moore. On paper, that's fine, but if you think about the example Moore has set for other young players in this organisation - work hard and be patient and you'll win your spot - it sends a very bad message and it's a very bad peice of man-management.

This doesn't even mention the fact that the Rangers have no business trading for Federov, Tkachuck, Bertuzzi or any other older, expensive forwards as other posters have mentioned.

For the other three, I pretty much agree with Tex.

Do you think have Betruzzi and Dom Moore is a real good idea? Given the awful attack on Steve Moore (Dom's brother) by Betruzzi?

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Do you think have Betruzzi and Dom Moore is a real good idea? Given the awful attack on Steve Moore (Dom's brother) by Betruzzi?
Thats why he said "If we trade for Bertuzzi, we get rid of Dom Moore."

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Thats why he said "If we trade for Bertuzzi, we get rid of Dom Moore."
Dom Moore > Todd Bertuzzi

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I'll say it again, if the Rangers make a play for Bertuzzi, the whole philosophy around which this team is being built: team loyalty, character, rewarding hard work goes out the window. If we trade for Bertuzzi, we get rid of Dom Moore. On paper, that's fine, but if you think about the example Moore has set for other young players in this organisation - work hard and be patient and you'll win your spot - it sends a very bad message and it's a very bad peice of man-management.

This doesn't even mention the fact that the Rangers have no business trading for Federov, Tkachuck, Bertuzzi or any other older, expensive forwards as other posters have mentioned.

For the other three, I pretty much agree with Tex.
This team has already sent down Prucha and Hollweg in favor of Hossa, Taffe, and Fedorov.

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This team has already sent down Prucha and Hollweg in favor of Hossa, Taffe, and Fedorov.
in order to give those guys a chance. I think you'll see Taffe and Fedorov mainly being benched for at least the next couple weeks. having Fedorov has made me appreciate Hossa.

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This team has already sent down Prucha and Hollweg in favor of Hossa, Taffe, and Fedorov.
The team has sent down Prucha for a spell, Renney's said he'll be back soon. I believe that he's coming back and I have no problem with him being sent down for a few games, on the understanding that he is still being developed and he belongs with the Rangers, long-term. None of these young players are going to play a full season.

Hossa has played fairly well - he's had his games off, but I'm pleasantly surprised by a player I expected next to nothing from. Taffe needs to be given a look, which he hasn't yet - I didn't even notice he was in the game yesterday! FedFed is getting his cup of coffee, but if he doesn't show something soon, I'm sure he'll be sent down -- and have a hard time getting a recall.

As for Hollweg, I love the guy, but I was still in Australia when he played in the NHL last, so I can't say how good he looked out there. As long as he does well, I'm sure he'll be back up.

I actually have faith in this Rangers rebuilding effort. The reason is that I think Sather finally hired a good coach whose decisions and input he respects.

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If Jagr were to get hurt...

would we need to get a top line scorer?

If the Rangers cant weather the loss of Rucinsky, it's going to be a very long season. He's been good, but he should be replaceable.

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would we need to get a top line scorer?

If the Rangers cant weather the loss of Rucinsky, it's going to be a very long season. He's been good, but he should be replaceable.

Well said.

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Wait wait wait, is this another one of those sarcastic posts? Like the kind some people get and some don't?

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would we need to get a top line scorer?

If the Rangers cant weather the loss of Rucinsky, it's going to be a very long season. He's been good, but he should be replaceable.
I think Renney needs to put the right person in his place. I also don't chalk much of last night's loss to the abscence of Ruca.

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I agree, MJ...

I think last night a team finally took advantage of the mistakes the Rangers have been making in their own zone all season long - most of which had not previously been capitalized, and many of which were bailed-out by Lundqvist.

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