is not such an uneven deal for the Pens and Blues ... that is if St Louis REALLY wants MAF. It definitely sures up the Pens D. The original poster said 1 or 2 defensemen would be involved. Pens could move a veteran D man off their roster in the process by throwing in Odelein or Poapst.
This doesn't really help either of these teams make the playoffs this year though, and it leaves Pittsburgh with no 'goalie of the future'.
It really doesn't help the Blues either. Regardless of what is being offered the cost will be too high. We do have some solid players on D, but I would rather not trade them for a goalie. Not because MAF isn't better then our goalies, but because of the costs and what we do have in the stable. He isn't or hasn't demonstrated that his high end is so much better then our kids. I would rather move them for Malkin.
I don't buy this rumor at all. Especially w/ new ownership coming up.
Though I would guess that the deal involves Rick Jackman not MAF unless it is for an unbelievable return . . . he was on a relative tear and was held out of tonights' game. Perhaps to make sure that he does not get injured?
However if MAF goes for Lalime and a pylon then the Pens will lose much of their fan base.
Have people forgotten that the Penguins already have a #1 goalie? This is completely assaine (not your post, the rumor itself)
Consider that the Pens would possibly find themselve in the position of having to take Lalime (namely, his salary) as part of a trade.
If I were Pittsburgh, and the Blues were offering Jackman and Brewer for Fleury and the absorption of Lalime's contract, I'd do that. Forget that M-A was a first overall pick and what he MIGHT become, and remember that the windows of Mario and Recchi are quickly slamming shut. Two young defensemen like Jackman and Brewer for a prospect goaltender? Gosh, where do I sign?
Goalies are like pitchers in baseball. They should be selected lower in the draft in bulk. They take much longer to develop, and few have come close to what they'll become when only 18 years old.
Just to play a little bit of Devil's advocate here, cause this is what i do best. If i'm Pitt, MAF's stock right now is really high and probably higher than what he's really worth. Teams that would be interested in him will probably overpay to get him, and if I'm the Penguins, i'm trading him if teams are willing to give me good defensemen because right now, they have crap on the blue line. If St. Louis were willing to give up two decent defensemen along with Lalime, i'm taking it because they can then swing Lalime over to Atlanta for another defenseman or two, and then ship a couple Dmen to SJ for Toskala/Schaefer/Nabby. And the hockey world will be a happy place for everyone
This trade makes no sense for either team. The Blues have a good group of defensive players, and a good group of goalie prospects, although none with quite as high a potential as Fleury. The Pens have groomed Fleury to be their franchise goalie, and already have a guy in Thibault who is probably about even with Lalime.
In Pens related news though, Ric Jackman was a healthy scratch, which is leading to speculation he may be traded... His play of late has been pretty good.
This just in - Crosby will be the next to go, Ecklund thinks it will be to Ottawa for Smolinski. The Pens would really like to get a good Vet. 2 way centre.
Sweet, With the other (retarded) trade thread of Sundin coming to Ottawa for a prospect and a pick and Crosby coming to the Sens for Smolinski the Sens are set. We lose one guy from our roster and our forwards are:
"Goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury, the Penguins' No. 1 overall draft choice in 2003, was named the Koho/AHL Goaltender of the Month for October after going 6-0-0 with a 1.17 goals-against average and a .955 save percentage with the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins."
Yeah, his play really indicates he's in the "doghouse" Eklund.