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10-24-2016, 01:08 PM
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lighten up on Murray.. hockey players are pretty tough - and generally if it can be taped and put back together the staff will do that. His knee and shoulder - those can be career ending. I want to see this guy play at his best over a number of years - we haven't really gotten to see that yet.
Which is why some people say he is injury prone.

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10-25-2016, 11:21 AM
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Honestly at this point we should be looking at what we would need to do to trade Murray for Lindholm. He is already better than Murray and can stay on the ice. We have the trade chips to use and the cap space with Clarkson on lair.

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10-25-2016, 11:35 AM
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Honestly at this point we should be looking at what we would need to do to trade Murray for Lindholm. He is already better than Murray and can stay on the ice. We have the trade chips to use and the cap space with Clarkson on lair.
We would have to add a substantial amount.

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10-25-2016, 11:41 AM
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Honestly at this point we should be looking at what we would need to do to trade Murray for Lindholm. He is already better than Murray and can stay on the ice. We have the trade chips to use and the cap space with Clarkson on lair.
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We would have to add a substantial amount.

I agree with both sentiments. I'm not sure what we would have to add, but I would consider all options for a move like this if it meant bringing Lindholm in. Everything but Werenski and Dubois would be on the table, imo.

Would Anaheim consider Murray + Milano/Bjorkstrand + 1st? Murray + Jenner?

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10-25-2016, 11:56 AM
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I agree with both sentiments. I'm not sure what we would have to add, but I would consider all options for a move like this if it meant bringing Lindholm in. Everything but Werenski and Dubois would be on the table, imo.

Would Anaheim consider Murray + Milano/Bjorkstrand + 1st? Murray + Jenner?
I can tell you, the cbj wouldnt consider a first in any deal, not with a chance that we could get lotto pick this year.

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10-25-2016, 11:59 AM
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I can tell you, the cbj wouldnt consider a first in any deal, not with a chance that we could get lotto pick this year.
You don't think that a defensive corps of Lindholm-Jones/Werenski-Savard/Johnson-Prout would get us into the playoffs? That is an elite group.

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10-25-2016, 11:59 AM
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I agree with both sentiments. I'm not sure what we would have to add, but I would consider all options for a move like this if it meant bringing Lindholm in. Everything but Werenski and Dubois would be on the table, imo.

Would Anaheim consider Murray + Milano/Bjorkstrand + 1st? Murray + Jenner?
I would add Saad and Jones to my list of untouchables, but outside of that I would give up Murray and anyone else in the organization.

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10-25-2016, 12:01 PM
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I would add Saad and Jones to my list of untouchables, but outside of that I would give up Murray and anyone else in the organization.
I didn't even think of including them because of Anaheim's budget and cap restraints, but yes. Saad, Jones, Werenski and Dubois off the table.

What would a realistic offer look like?

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10-25-2016, 12:07 PM
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I don't think I'm ready to give up on Murray yet.

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10-25-2016, 12:22 PM
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^^^ Amen.

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10-25-2016, 12:30 PM
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'The Untouchables' on this team keep changing.


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10-25-2016, 12:45 PM
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'The Untouchables' on this team keep changing.

because new ones keep getting touched

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10-25-2016, 03:24 PM
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Honestly at this point we should be looking at what we would need to do to trade Murray for Lindholm. He is already better than Murray and can stay on the ice. We have the trade chips to use and the cap space with Clarkson on lair.
I like the idea, but it's probably not a worthwhile discussion for two reasons:
1) No credible source whatsoever has suggested that Lindholm is available for trade.
2) Murray's been proposed as the base for a Lindholm swap several times and Ducks fans keep saying "no thanks". Continuing to push it further at this stage would just be making a nuisance of ourselves.

So, nice to think about, but probably not going to happen, and I would advise against asking about it on the trade mains.

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10-25-2016, 04:01 PM
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McKenzie says Lindholm is looking for a deal likely in the 6 year $5.5M-plus level. I'm not sure how that fits into our cap management plan.

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10-25-2016, 04:05 PM
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McKenzie says Lindholm is looking for a deal likely in the 6 year $5.5M-plus level. I'm not sure how that fits into our cap management plan.
Not to mention I am sure they would want to include Stoner as well

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10-25-2016, 04:07 PM
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McKenzie says Lindholm is looking for a deal likely in the 6 year $5.5M-plus level. I'm not sure how that fits into our cap management plan.
There's a plan?

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10-25-2016, 05:58 PM
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I don't think I'm ready to give up on Murray yet.
I am. Also, trading him for an upgrade isn't giving up on him.

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10-25-2016, 06:23 PM
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I like the idea, but it's probably not a worthwhile discussion for two reasons:
1) No credible source whatsoever has suggested that Lindholm is available for trade.
2) Murray's been proposed as the base for a Lindholm swap several times and Ducks fans keep saying "no thanks". Continuing to push it further at this stage would just be making a nuisance of ourselves.

So, nice to think about, but probably not going to happen, and I would advise against asking about it on the trade mains.
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great advice. Would hate to make a wrong move on the mains, could hurt our relations to trade together down the line......

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10-25-2016, 07:17 PM
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I agree with both sentiments. I'm not sure what we would have to add, but I would consider all options for a move like this if it meant bringing Lindholm in. Everything but Werenski and Dubois would be on the table, imo.

Would Anaheim consider Murray + Milano/Bjorkstrand + 1st? Murray + Jenner?
I think they would consider the latter. I'm not sure that we should. That's a pretty hefty price to pay for a player who is definitely a big upgrade on Murray now but might be more of a modest upgrade in the long run.

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10-25-2016, 08:42 PM
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great advice. Would hate to make a wrong move on the mains, could hurt our relations to trade together down the line......
There is such a thing as trying not to be a dick to people. If they're not interested, they're not interested.

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10-25-2016, 08:53 PM
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There is such a thing as trying not to be a dick to people. If they're not interested, they're not interested.
You know, if there isn't a #1 on your list the HF boards should just close the thread.

I'm not remotely interested in our franchise trading Murray, so I'm not going to add anything about some weird fantasies by other posters.

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10-25-2016, 09:37 PM
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Trading Murray+ or Murray++ for Lindholm is a NHL17 GM mode move, not a real life one.

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10-26-2016, 11:28 AM
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Murray still doesn't have any points this season

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10-26-2016, 12:10 PM
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You know, if there isn't a #1 on your list the HF boards should just close the thread.
I can empathize with that point of view, but (at least when I was a mod there) policy was that it's okay to discuss such unlikely things so long as it remains civil. I just don't want our fanbase to be seen as a contributing cause of incivility by persistently going after other folks' players when said folks have made it clear the proposals are unwelcome - it's annoying enough when folks go after ours and refuse to accept "no" as an answer.

Just sort of a "hey, the Golden Rule might apply here, folks" type notice, that's all.

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Murray still doesn't have any points this season
Well, crap. Now we definitely have to get rid of him ASAP.

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