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11-09-2005, 11:42 PM
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LA Trades: Norstrom, Garon, 3rd round pick
TO Trades: Allison, Berg, Aubin
Why would LA trade their captain and most reliable defensive defenseman for a player they were extremely happy to let walk away as a free agent? Completely ignoring the fact that Allison was not popular with his teammates and he and Murray got into a public pissing match?

At center LA has Roenick, Conroy, Armstrong, Belanger, Cammalleri can play center. Norstrom is a million times better defensively than Berg and even has been jumping into the offense lately. Not to mention Garon is better than Aubin.

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11-09-2005, 11:54 PM
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Jason Allison is the pain in the backside and doesn't want to play in LA



Aki Berg sucks.



No thanks.
Do you have a link on this?

Aki's playing on the top 4 for the Leafs and is one of only two defenders on the Leafs with a positive plus/minus.

The Aki-Klee duo has struck fear into Eastern Conference forwards everywhere.

Who sucks again?

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11-10-2005, 09:15 AM
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Do you have a link on this?

Aki's playing on the top 4 for the Leafs and is one of only two defenders on the Leafs with a positive plus/minus.

The Aki-Klee duo has struck fear into Eastern Conference forwards everywhere.

Who sucks again?

'struck fear into Eastern Conference forwards everywhere'....

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11-10-2005, 11:11 AM
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'struck fear into Eastern Conference forwards everywhere'....
thats pretty funny

but anyways
for so many people to take such a strong position but not provide any reasoning is pretty frustrating

what are your points

you love Garon? ya he was a top prospect and had a great year in the AHL, but hes now fastly becoming the back up in LA, and for whatever you think that will decrease his value

Norstrom is your captain and is a solid d man, but he is 33, and is your 4th best dman and making 2.2 a year

the 3rd might be putting it over the top, but if it is to much say so

Allison - i dont think they were glad to see him go, i think they were frustrated with his injuries, and now that he is showing he is healthy the guy can easily be a #1 C and PP specialist, and i cant see how thats not worth anything

Aubin - has shown signs of being a good goalie, and could be a great back up

Berg - while opinions very, is not that bad, hes be unlucky being paired with Belak, but when he does play with better players he shows he can be an effective player

the deal is not that lopsided

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11-10-2005, 03:57 PM
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thats pretty funny

but anyways
for so many people to take such a strong position but not provide any reasoning is pretty frustrating

what are your points

you love Garon? ya he was a top prospect and had a great year in the AHL, but hes now fastly becoming the back up in LA, and for whatever you think that will decrease his value

Norstrom is your captain and is a solid d man, but he is 33, and is your 4th best dman and making 2.2 a year

the 3rd might be putting it over the top, but if it is to much say so

Allison - i dont think they were glad to see him go, i think they were frustrated with his injuries, and now that he is showing he is healthy the guy can easily be a #1 C and PP specialist, and i cant see how thats not worth anything

Aubin - has shown signs of being a good goalie, and could be a great back up

Berg - while opinions very, is not that bad, hes be unlucky being paired with Belak, but when he does play with better players he shows he can be an effective player

the deal is not that lopsided
1. Garon, whatever troubles he has gone through in the early going, is nowhere near being written off by the organization or the fans...and he's still regarded as having far better upside than Aubin.

2. I really don't know where you people keep getting that Matty is our 4th best D-man. Let me make it clear: He is the best defenseman on the team. Bar none.

3. Allison does still have #1 potential. He has not yet returned to his peak game condition. But he really does not fit into our line-up.

4. And Berg...well we all know about Aki Berg.

I would not consider that deal at all...its tilted heavily in the Leafs' favour.

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11-10-2005, 04:22 PM
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The Aki-Klee duo has struck fear into Eastern Conference forwards everywhere.

Who sucks again?

I almost pissed myself when I read this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The last thing the Kings need right now is Allison...or any forward for that matter....what we do need is another d-man that is of the same mold of Norstrom, we do not need to give one away!

Norstrom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Berg
Garon>>>>Aubin

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11-10-2005, 04:25 PM
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thats pretty funny

but anyways
for so many people to take such a strong position but not provide any reasoning is pretty frustrating

what are your points

you love Garon? ya he was a top prospect and had a great year in the AHL, but hes now fastly becoming the back up in LA, and for whatever you think that will decrease his value

Norstrom is your captain and is a solid d man, but he is 33, and is your 4th best dman and making 2.2 a year

True but still leader of the team, you just don't trade him away unless it's a necessity and right now things are going grovy.

the 3rd might be putting it over the top, but if it is to much say so

Allison - i dont think they were glad to see him go, i think they were frustrated with his injuries, and now that he is showing he is healthy the guy can easily be a #1 C and PP specialist, and i cant see how thats not worth anything

hmm...he's already whinning like a baby over ice...no thanks.

Aubin - has shown signs of being a good goalie, and could be a great back up

I'll take Garon for aubin any day.

Berg - while opinions very, is not that bad, hes be unlucky being paired with Belak, but when he does play with better players he shows he can be an effective player

Simple...No thanks!!


the deal is not that lopsided

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11-10-2005, 05:04 PM
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Norstrom is your captain and is a solid d man, but he is 33, and is your 4th best dman and making 2.2 a year
You should start watching Kings games, because if you had any idea about Mattias Norstrom, you would not be saying this

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11-10-2005, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aki Berg
Do you have a link on this?

Aki's playing on the top 4 for the Leafs and is one of only two defenders on the Leafs with a positive plus/minus.

The Aki-Klee duo has struck fear into Eastern Conference forwards everywhere.

Who sucks again?
Being a top 4 d-man for the Leafs isn't exactly an incredible feat when the 2 defensemen behind you are Alexander Khavanov (who really sucks) and 2 rookies with no NHL experience.

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11-10-2005, 06:19 PM
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You should start watching Kings games, because if you had any idea about Mattias Norstrom, you would not be saying this
Concur with this post

 
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11-10-2005, 08:03 PM
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Norstrom is your captain and is a solid d man, but he is 33, and is your 4th best dman and making 2.2 a year
This just tells me that Norstrom is somehow still underrated.

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11-10-2005, 08:49 PM
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Jason Allison is the pain in the backside and doesn't want to play in LA



Aki Berg sucks.



No thanks.
When paired with a D partner that is NHL worthy, (not Lumme or Berg) he is actually pretty good as high up as the #4 spot. (Klee)

I think you need to watch some of Aki's play instead of sitting around a MB complaining about it.

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