I hope it stung as bad as a phony shootout goal stung us. Huge win, and way to gutcheck in the third after one of our worst periods of the year in the second.
The curse is OVER!
Thats a bigger screw job than the shootout, and its not even close.
You do realize that in order for Nashville to just tie the shootout after 3 shooters, that Kariya would have had to score on Labs (who had stopped 3 penalty shots earlier in the game) and then Vokoun would have had to stop Cammalleri, and that would have only tied it.
I hope it stung as bad as a phony shootout goal stung us. Huge win, and way to gutcheck in the third after one of our worst periods of the year in the second.
The curse is OVER!
In the famous words of Mr. Miaugi "Remember to breathe NMK - breathe in and breathe out"
Was definitely a nice win and a quality 3rd period by the Preds. Vokoun was stout again in the last few minutes.
Good win for the Preds. It was a little ugly, but L.A. is still a very good team. The boys shut down both of L.A.'s top scoring lines. Vokoun was excellent. Every shot seemed to be squarely in the chest. That was some fantastic positioning.
Thats a bigger screw job than the shootout, and its not even close.
You do realize that in order for Nashville to just tie the shootout after 3 shooters, that Kariya would have had to score on Labs (who had stopped 3 penalty shots earlier in the game) and then Vokoun would have had to stop Cammalleri, and that would have only tied it.
Oh well, good game. Cya guys next time.
Screwjob? What the heck are you talking about? Just because Legwand grabbed Millers arm does not mean that Miller did not in turn knock Legwands stick out of his hands. He got caught for the second thing, tiny as it may be.
The kings got lucky that it was Frasier calling the game in the first place. If it wasn't for him, we would have had around 4-5 more PP chances. You had your chance in the second period, we weathered it, and came back to beat you. Tough luck.
And before I sound arrogant and homeristic, let me say that after the second period, I was sure the Kings were going to lay us on our backs again. You guys muscled us off every puck pretty much the entire game, but we still match up well against each other. Still, if we didn't have the edge in goal, it would be extremely rough to matchup against you in the playoffs (still would be.) As it stands, our goaltending allows us to stick in the periods where your size dominates us in the corners/behind the net.
What a game by Vokoun! I'll never understand why some think that a goalie has to make circus saves in order to get some recognition, but he was stone cold solid in the pipes tonight.
The Kings specialty teams failed them tonight, especially the PP which has let us down all year.
NMK, for a moderator you sure have an incredibly slanted view of a game - the officiating was in no way tilted towards the Kings' tonight. I stopped counting the blatant tackles in front of Vokoun in the second, but there were quite a few questionable calls for both squads at both ends of the rink. It's Fraser, the guy simply can't control a game. Ever see a blowout when Fraser refs? Me either. The guys lives to make controversial calls within the last five minutes of a close game.
I'll pose this question not as a means of trolling, but I'd merely like to hear some of your honest opinions concerning your teams "embelishments". I truly enjoy watching Pred's hockey on Center Ice as much as possible, you clearly have one of the most exciting teams in the league.
However, in this game tonight, and the games a few weeks back against Anaheim and San Jose (two teams that I was squarely pulling for the Preds to beat), it's disgusting how many flops, head jerks, flailings and flat out embarrasments some members of your squad pull. Are any of you Pred fans noticing this, 'cause as a hockey fan, your team has far too much talent to resort to these tatics. Specifically I'll call out Erat and Hartnell, and only slightly less so for Kariya and Legwand.
What a game by Vokoun! I'll never understand why some think that a goalie has to make circus saves in order to get some recognition, but he was stone cold solid in the pipes tonight.
The Kings specialty teams failed them tonight, especially the PP which has let us down all year.
NMK, for a moderator you sure have an incredibly slanted view of a game - the officiating was in no way tilted towards the Kings' tonight. I stopped counting the blatant tackles in front of Vokoun in the second, but there were quite a few questionable calls for both squads at both ends of the rink. It's Fraser, the guy simply can't control a game. Ever see a blowout when Fraser refs? Me either. The guys lives to make controversial calls within the last five minutes of a close game.
I'll pose this question not as a means of trolling, but I'd merely like to hear some of your honest opinions concerning your teams "embelishments". I truly enjoy watching Pred's hockey on Center Ice as much as possible, you clearly have one of the most exciting teams in the league.
However, in this game tonight, and the games a few weeks back against Anaheim and San Jose (two teams that I was squarely pulling for the Preds to beat), it's disgusting how many flops, head jerks, flailings and flat out embarrasments some members of your squad pull. Are any of you Pred fans noticing this, 'cause as a hockey fan, your team has far too much talent to resort to these tatics. Specifically I'll call out Erat and Hartnell, and only slightly less so for Kariya and Legwand.
Embellishments, Erat does it all the time, and it is infuriating. Erat also is prone to taking stick fouls. Hartnell does it to a lesser extent, but I think a lot of power guys do because they are slighted doubly due to their power game. Still, most of the calls he draws are legit, even if he does crank it up on occasion. Kariya - meh, its hard to tell since he is a little waterbug and goes down routinely whether he is trying to draw a penalty or not. Other than Legwand's play tonight, I have never really seen him dive or overtly embelish. I wish I could watch a replay, but other than him grabbing the stick, it still looked like miller flicked Legwand's stick out while trying to wrench Legwands arm off.....that looked like a misfortune penalty more than anything for Miller not a dive (as the Kings announcers kept trying to claim repeatedly.)
Erat and Hartnell are prone to taking falls, I'll admit...but you have to realize...some of these "dives" are legitimate falls. People forget...we're a TINY team, and it doesn't always take much to knock us over. I'm not trying to be slanted, as I agree with Enoch that after the second, I thought it was a matter of time before we got cooked again. I've pointed out games where we got away with murder, but this really wasn't one of them. The refs swallowed their whistles in this game, and it worries me that the NHL might trend back toward that, in which case I think our team is in trouble.
This has been one of the worst-called games AGAINST us all year. I"ve seen some bad calls in our favor, but we're getting mugged and tackled all over the place with no call. As I type this, we finally get a call when Miller hauls Legwand down, and the Kings commentator thinks it looks like a dive
OH please...take off those rose colored glasses and check out all the diving the preds did for this game.
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Embellishments, Erat does it all the time, and it is infuriating. Erat also is prone to taking stick fouls. Hartnell does it to a lesser extent, but I think a lot of power guys do because they are slighted doubly due to their power game. Still, most of the calls he draws are legit, even if he does crank it up on occasion. Kariya - meh, its hard to tell since he is a little waterbug and goes down routinely whether he is trying to draw a penalty or not. Other than Legwand's play tonight, I have never really seen him dive or overtly embelish. I wish I could watch a replay, but other than him grabbing the stick, it still looked like miller flicked Legwand's stick out while trying to wrench Legwands arm off.....that looked like a misfortune penalty more than anything for Miller not a dive (as the Kings announcers kept trying to claim repeatedly.)
My beef with the call against Miller is that Legwand initiated the contact, grabbed Miller's stick, and twisted his body around to cause the fall, and all Miller did on the entire play was hold his position. I'm a King's homer for sure, but just check out Millers PIM's this year - he simply doesn't hold and hook like so many d-men in the league.
I'm not so much concerned about the falls, but rather that guys like Erat and Kariya throw their heads back like they have been shot every time an opponents stick nears the Sabre tooth logo. Kariya tried to draw another penalty during Avery's double-minor by doing just that - the replay showed that the Kings' d-man's stick barely got up to Kariya's waste, but he acted like he lost a couple of teeth! Of course, as a Kings' fan we have been conditioned to such behavior from Kariya
I'm not trying to start a flame session - Hartnell should have been given a double-minor and not a major if you ask me. Of course, I also claimed the same for Avery's run on Gamache. It's always a disgrace when the officiating has a significant outcome on a game, and luckily it didn't hurt you tonight (unlike Roenick's "goal").
I'll state it clearly - we lost because our PP sucks and Vokoun was outstanding as usual.
My beef with the call against Miller is that Legwand initiated the contact, grabbed Miller's stick, and twisted his body around to cause the fall, and all Miller did on the entire play was hold his position. I'm a King's homer for sure, but just check out Millers PIM's this year - he simply doesn't hold and hook like so many d-men in the league.
I'm not so much concerned about the falls, but rather that guys like Erat and Kariya throw their heads back like they have been shot every time an opponents stick nears the Sabre tooth logo. Kariya tried to draw another penalty during Avery's double-minor by doing just that - the replay showed that the Kings' d-man's stick barely got up to Kariya's waste, but he acted like he lost a couple of teeth! Of course, as a Kings' fan we have been conditioned to such behavior from Kariya
I'm not trying to start a flame session - Hartnell should have been given a double-minor and not a major if you ask me. Of course, I also claimed the same for Avery's run on Gamache. It's always a disgrace when the officiating has a significant outcome on a game, and luckily it didn't hurt you tonight (unlike Roenick's "goal").
I'll state it clearly - we lost because our PP sucks and Vokoun was outstanding as usual.
Fair enough, I didn't think Hartnell's was a major either, but Miller got caught in a bad place. It might not have even been called if the hit hadn't been in that little divet area causing Miller to collapse. Harts didn't throw on a thundering check, but regardless.....I'm not going to complain about the call.
As for the Legwand play, I think most Kings fans would have been ticked that a penalty was called on Miller, but not at a "dive" had the Kings color guy not harped on it being a dive. The fact of the matter is, Legwand didn't dive at all. His stick was ripped out of his hands, and the officials only saw that. He got away with a holding penalty, and the only reason his stick was knocked from his hands was because Miller was trying to grab his own stickback....Sure, it stinks, but hey, things happen like that all the time.......Miller was a victim of circumstance more than anything else.
Kariya, I still will reserve my judgement. He is a little guy, and I haven't noticed him diving. Maybe he embellishes, but I haven't been watching for it. Still, you have to realize that almost every player on your team outweighs and outreaches Kariya....same for most of the guys on our team. You are going to knock us down on some of these little things that many of your guys could stand up to..
-We played a good 1st and 3rd period and vokie bailed us out in the 2nd.
-Hall...he is "mr. clutch goal." he scores them when we need them!
-Worst officiated game of the year. And I mean on both sides.
-Suter continues to play some solid d IMO
-smithson is a PK machine. IMO he's easily one of the best PK'ers on the team right now. I think he should stick with the team once walker and sully are back. hate to say it, but send gamache down. if he's picked up on waivers, so be it.
-some of you seem worried about kariya, but I think he's doing fine. he's averaging over a point per game! give him some time and he'll start racking up the goals.
-Sean Avery is a little punk!!!!
-I can't believe harts was given 5 mins for that hit.
Was watching highlights a little earlier and caught a review of the Preds-Kings game. Naturally what stuck out the most were Kariya's blown chances, something I seem to see every single week on game highlights. What's going on with this guy? It seems like he's playing quite well, but has just not found his finishing touch yet. I have unfortunately not been able to see him play yet this season so perhaps the local Preds fans can shed some light on this.
Was watching highlights a little earlier and caught a review of the Preds-Kings game. Naturally what stuck out the most were Kariya's blown chances, something I seem to see every single week on game highlights. What's going on with this guy? It seems like he's playing quite well, but has just not found his finishing touch yet. I have unfortunately not been able to see him play yet this season so perhaps the local Preds fans can shed some light on this.
Well, on one hand...it's tough to complain because he's averaging over a point a game, but on the other he does seem to miss those chances. I think a lot of it is rust, and as we move into the next phase of the season, I'm sure he'll be fine.
Too bad we have more talent/depth/skill then you guys do
Consider yourself lucky if we score less then 4 goals tonight.
you know i said we have to find a way to score 3, vokoun will hold them to 2...
and you come on here trash talking.....
it must suck to be you this morning....i know this one hurt ya....
come on back around next time and i'll give you a few more insights into some hockey if you want, nancy-boy
about the embellishments, some Preds are proned to do that, however, every team in the league has players that do that. It is a league wide problem.
Interesting Stats:
1. We are now 2nd in the West
2. We have at least 1 game in hand against everybody in the West except San Jose
3. We have the fewest regulation losses of anybody in the West.
What did you all think of Hartnells hit? Looked shoulder to shoulder to me.
Yeah, if Miller hadn't went down (he got hit in the one spot that is really dangerous behind the net), I doubt anything is called at all. The hit wasn't even that hard...
about the embellishments, some Preds are proned to do that, however, every team in the league has players that do that. It is a league wide problem.
Interesting Stats:
1. We are now 2nd in the West
2. We have at least 1 game in hand against everybody in the West except San Jose
3. We have the fewest regulation losses of anybody in the West.
dont wake me if this is a dream.
It's sucks but we are actullay 4th in the west with the 3rd best point total in the league. That will change when Detroit actually starts to play tough teams instead of creampuffs. What's up with Columbus, Chicago, and St. Loius they don't even put up a fight when they play the Wings then play us tough.
you know i said we have to find a way to score 3, vokoun will hold them to 2...
and you come on here trash talking.....
Okay. You we're right.
In my opinion the difference in this game was Vokoun (I wish he was our goaltender). I still think LA is the better team, but you guys are stronger at the most important postion on the ice...goaltending.
