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11-21-2005, 01:44 PM
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Desjardins and Kapanen Close to Return; Savage and Seidenberg Out

Voorhees, NJ It was a good news-bad news day at the Sovereign Bank Flyers Skate Zone, as Sami Kapanen and Eric Desjardins could be in the lineup as soon as Tuesday when the Flyers face the Tampa Bay Lightning. Unfortunately, however, Dennis Seidenberg and Brian Savage will be out of the lineup with a broken wrist and a sprained knee, respectively.

The Flyers also got a scare when rookie center Mike Richards fell awkwardly into the boards during the skate and had to leave after jamming his right wrist. Richards, however, saw the doctor and his x-rays came back negative and he is probable for Tuesdays game.

Flyers Strength and Conditioning Coach Jim McCrossin updated the media about the injured players following Mondays practice.

On Mike Richards:
Jim McCrossin: I just spoke with the doctors, and the X-rays right now are negative. Right now, its a sprain. Dr. [Bill] DeLong looked at it and said that everything checked out and hes able to play tomorrow.

Right now were anticipating that he can play. If he wakes up and hes in excruciating pain, Ill send him over for a bone scan and that can all change, but at this point, weve got approval that he can play.
Sami Kapanen could return to the lineup as early as Tuesday against Tampa Bay

On Sami Kapanen:
JM: Im bringing Sami over to see Dr. Peter DeLuca today. It will be nine weeks tomorrow, and you see him out there. Hes ready to go, but the only concern we have is the integrity of the repair. His strength and endurance in his shoulder is looking great. All of his testing he passed two weeks ago, so hes just been biting at the bit ready to go. Were hoping that he gets cleared for tomorrow, but thats up to Dr. DeLuca. What am I anticipating? I think hell be cleared for tomorrow or when we play Friday against Boston.

On Eric Desjardins:
JM: Eric was cleared to go ahead with contact for today. Over the past couple days hes been feeling great. He has to go see Dr. Gerri McGuinness for the neuro-psyche test. He will do his baseline testing again and after that hell go see Dr. [Gary] Dorshimer and if everything goes well hell be back in the lineup tomorrow.

On Dennis Seidenberg:
JM: I just spoke with our team hand specialist Dr. Tom Graham. Midway in the third period Dennis took a slash in Pittsburgh. We brought him back here and had him seen by our doctor, and Dr. DeLong wanted to have an x-ray taken. We had that done early this morning, and it showed that he broke off a (bone) in his right hand. We sent the x-rays down to Dr. Graham and hes going to perform surgery. What its going to require is just a small pin being placed in there. By pinning it, the time out is going to be about two-to-three weeks.

On Keith Primeau:
JM: Hes in the building today. Over the past couple of days hes been building up his cycling. Hes not ready to go back and get tested at this point. Right now, today his head was clear of pressure, and as he would say hes symptom free, which is good. After biking a little bit, he washow can you say ithe calls it busy eyes. There may have been a little spinning. He stopped for a couple minutes, went back and finished his bike ride. He was up to 30 minutes today biking.

What were looking at now, and Keith will agree with this, is that were having bigger blocks of time where hes symptom free. So, what does that mean? With head injuries, it doesnt really mean anything. Were just going to take it one day at a time and progress him nice and slow. Tomorrow were going to get on the light board and start allowing him to do eye-tracking to see if hes able to start doing that. If hes able to do that, its a plus for us.

On Brian Savage:
JM: He has a grade one MCL sprain of his knee. Id say 10-to-14 days is accurate.


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11-21-2005, 01:53 PM
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sucks about siendenburg but desjardins will be great to be back as will kapanen he is going to be like he was in carolina with these rules. i say play him with cater to start developing that lline into the number two ahead of sim and zues. carter is a talent that sould not just be on the tail end of a powerplay or penalty kill.

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who slashed Seids?

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who slashed Seids?
he was diving and hurt it that way

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well maybe freddy meyer will get a good chance now with seidenberg injured. good news on kappy and desjardins.

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well maybe freddy meyer will get a good chance now with seidenberg injured. good news on kappy and desjardins.
If Desjardins returns, they probably won't need him. Therien.

Anyway, Desjardins is the most important player missing right now. Getting him back will be a big boost to the defense, and a to the offense. Kapanen will be another shot in the arm, I think he'll flourish under the new rules.

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Kapanen will be another shot in the arm, I think he'll flourish under the new rules.

Agreed, I think you'll see kappy regain some of his lost scoring touch. His speed should cause some real issues.

Also Desjardins and Kapanen should be big boosts to the PK.

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In all honesty, i think Seidenberg is not worth keeping if he gets injured every other week. I say we trade him now before it's too late.

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anyone got any ideas on what the lines will look like once kappy gets back?? maybe something like this?

Gagne - Forsberg - Knuble
Sim - Richards - Kapenan
Umberger - Handzus - Radivojevic
Sharp(can he play wing?) - Carter - Stevenson
brashear is scratch

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anyone got any ideas on what the lines will look like once kappy gets back?? maybe something like this?

Gagne - Forsberg - Knuble
Sim - Richards - Kapenan
Umberger - Handzus - Radivojevic
Sharp(can he play wing?) - Carter - Stevenson
brashear is scratch

I'd like to see a Umberger-Carter- Kapenan line.

Gagne - Forsberg - Knuble
Umberger - Carter - Kapenan
Sim - Richards - Handzus
Radio-Sharp-Stevenson

Then when prems comes back put him in sharp's spot. Move sharp down which I don't like at all, I would rather have Sim droped or Umberger, or just rotate them to see which one works best on those two left wing spots.

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In all honesty, i think Seidenberg is not worth keeping if he gets injured every other week. I say we trade him now before it's too late.
Wasn't that the logic behind trading Prospal? I remember he had two broken bones his first season and never got into the flow. Recently, I think Seids has shown a big improvement each game. Unless he can be packaged for an upgrade on defense I think we're better off hoping he continues to develop. The broken bones (leg, wrist) are just a fluke imo.

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Wasn't that the logic behind trading Prospal? I remember he had two broken bones his first season and never got into the flow. Recently, I think Seids has shown a big improvement each game. Unless he can be packaged for an upgrade on defense I think we're better off hoping he continues to develop. The broken bones (leg, wrist) are just a fluke imo.
I agree. He looks better than Bundy on the ice. Unless we get an upgrade in a trade, Seids must stay put.

Increased ice time for Bundy = BAD!!!

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I'd certainly trade Therien before I dealt Seids. We have a Therien Jr. in Hatcher anyways.

Am I the only one that thinks it's a good thing that Savage won't be playing?

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Am I the only one that thinks it's a good thing that Savage won't be playing?

Nope I love it. Hopefully we can trade him for a pick later on.

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I'd certainly trade Therien before I dealt Seids. We have a Therien Jr. in Hatcher anyways.

Am I the only one that thinks it's a good thing that Savage won't be playing?
sooner we get rid of therien the better. ive seen hatcher play better but i wouldnt go as far as calling him therien jr.....yet.

glad savage won't be playing and can't wait for rico and kapanen to get back.

edit: richards sprain wrist? hope he makes it for tuesdays game

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I don't mind having Savage around for the security of having a veteran presence in case of injury, but I would much rather have someone else play in his stead otherwise.

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In all honesty, i think Seidenberg is not worth keeping if he gets injured every other week. I say we trade him now before it's too late.
I disagree.
There isn't much you can do about broken bones. It's not like he pulls his groin all the time or has problems with his knees.
You wouldn't get too much for him anyway, as no team takes an injured player off your hands. If you want to trade him, you wait till he is fully healthy and plays on a somewhat good level, else you might as well keep him since you won't get anything of worth in return.

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I disagree.
There isn't much you can do about broken bones. It's not like he pulls his groin all the time or has problems with his knees.
You wouldn't get too much for him anyway, as no team takes an injured player off your hands. If you want to trade him, you wait till he is fully healthy and plays on a somewhat good level, else you might as well keep him since you won't get anything of worth in return.
I am not trying to make a racist comment here but how many good German players do you know with exception of Kolzig? I'd cut him, Him and Brashear try to get Salei.

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I am not trying to make a racist comment here but how many good German players do you know with exception of Kolzig? I'd cut him, Him and Brashear try to get Salei.
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I am not trying to make a racist comment here but how many good German players do you know with exception of Kolzig? I'd cut him, Him and Brashear try to get Salei.
How about Sturm, Hecht or Goc?

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In all honesty, i think Seidenberg is not worth keeping if he gets injured every other week. I say we trade him now before it's too late.
At league minimum why is it not worth it? OK, he isnt a great defenseman, but even if he only plays half the games, where are you going to find a better defenseman thats: guaranteed to never get injured, for under a million bucks, that will come cheaply (as in we wont have to give up many prospects/picks/players)?

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