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I seem to include Straka in every one of these proposals, but I think I may have finally hit the magic button that convinces the Pens to part with him. White is a talented center who has a good set of wheels and always works hard. Rachunek would help a weak Pens blueline with his nice package of skills, including a fine shot. Straka gives the Sens some much-needed left wing depth and is a talented player who could score lots of points on the stacked Senators. The picks help balance things out, IMO.
Reasoning: There's some talk that the Devils might want to acquire a center as they are a little weak down the middle, IMHO. Comrie would combine with Gomez give them a nice one-two punch down the middle and Madden would be one of the best third line centers in the game. I realize Comrie might not be a perfect fit in Jersey, but on the other hands, Burns' demanding style might get the best out of Comrie, who's a bit of an enigma. Friesen looks like he's ready to blossom offensively and could score 30 goals in the more wide open Western Conference. White would be a nasty physical presence for the Oilers, who would make anyone have second thoughts about slipping into the Oilers zone.
Reasoning: The Habs get a goal scoring winger and a decent goalie out of this deal. Tanguay has proven that he can score goals and would certainly help a weak Habs offense. Aebischer is unproven as a starter, but at the very worst, could platoon with Garon who is equally unproven. The Avs get the starting goalie that they desperately need if they're serious about winning it all.
Reasoning: The Habs get a goal scoring winger and a decent goalie out of this deal. Tanguay has proven that he can score goals and would certainly help a weak Habs offense. Aebischer is unproven as a starter, but at the very worst, could platoon with Garon who is equally unproven. The Avs get the starting goalie that they desperately need if they're serious about winning it all.
I seem to include Straka in every one of these proposals, but I think I may have finally hit the magic button that convinces the Pens to part with him. White is a talented center who has a good set of wheels and always works hard. Rachunek would help a weak Pens blueline with his nice package of skills, including a fine shot. Straka gives the Sens some much-needed left wing depth and is a talented player who could score lots of points on the stacked Senators. The picks help balance things out, IMO.
Reasoning: There's some talk that the Devils might want to acquire a center as they are a little weak down the middle, IMHO. Comrie would combine with Gomez give them a nice one-two punch down the middle and Madden would be one of the best third line centers in the game. I realize Comrie might not be a perfect fit in Jersey, but on the other hands, Burns' demanding style might get the best out of Comrie, who's a bit of an enigma. Friesen looks like he's ready to blossom offensively and could score 30 goals in the more wide open Western Conference. White would be a nasty physical presence for the Oilers, who would make anyone have second thoughts about slipping into the Oilers zone.
Reasoning: The Habs get a goal scoring winger and a decent goalie out of this deal. Tanguay has proven that he can score goals and would certainly help a weak Habs offense. Aebischer is unproven as a starter, but at the very worst, could platoon with Garon who is equally unproven. The Avs get the starting goalie that they desperately need if they're serious about winning it all.
Don't really like the first trade from Ottawa's standpoint. I would rather keep White and Rachunek furthermore Straka is injury prone, though if he could stay healthy it would be nice but with the abundance of young talent in Ottawa, they don't really need to add a Straka. Plus the grit and determination of a player like White brings is very essential for the Sens.
I like your second trade suggestion. I think it works well for both teams. If anything, it might be slightly in Edmonton's favour but fair enough.
I don't like your third proposal, it works out perfectly for colorado but doesn't really help the Habs. Habs depend too much on Theodore, and their offense is simply way too weak, adding a Tanguay won't affect them much while the loss of Theodore will effectively make them one of the bottom three teams of the league. Aebisher should be replaced by a defenseman, I don't think he's any better then Garon but I still wouldn't pull the trigger if I was Gainey.
I'd do the first trade from a pens standpoint although I REALLY like Straka, this trade would be too good to pass up. Ottawa's 2nd would be pretty close to the pens' 3rd.
Oh yeah, Go Habs Go, I think you would be suprised to see Straka's grit and determination. Straka is good in the defensive zone, and very good in the high-traffic areas. He is pretty tough for a little guy and he won't shy away from contact, and he doesn't get many penalties because he knows that he won't help the team by sitting in the penalty box. Don't see why Ottawa would do this, unless the Really feel they need to strengthen the left side.
NJ deal isn't close. I wouldn't trade either White or Friesen for Comrie. I don't even care what the perceived trade values are, we simply do not need another center. Right now on the roster we have Gomez, Larionov, Rasmussen, Madden, and Rupp. Rasmussen and Larionov played superb hockey last night.
Friesen has given NJ no reason to trade him, he's really found his game here. I wouldn't be surprised if he scored 30 this year. Add to that he's about 2 inches and 20 pounds from being a powerforward. Lot's of speed and goes very hard into the corners.
Colin White and Scott Niedermayer will be our top defensive pairing after the lockout. He'll never be as good as Stevens, but he has solid defensive skills, skates very well, hits hard, and moves the puck well.
I like Comrie, but Friesen and White are way too much.
To Pittsburgh: Todd White (C/LW), Karel Rachunek (D), 2nd round pick (2004) To Ottawa: Martin Straka (LW/C), 3rd round pick (2004)
From the last attempt to dump Straka on us:
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Originally Posted by officeglen
We had Straka before. Undersized, gets injured, expensive - last two seasons 01-2 13gp 5g 4a, 02-03 60gp 18g 28a. While talented, under production for the $ paid, with a contract until 2005. I wouldn't want Hossa looking at him in the dressing room wondering why Straka is getting the dollars. Don't think Mucks will bite at this one - Straka doesn't fit the mold of playoff player he looks for.
Couldn't agree more with that post. I'm not saying Straka can't play, he's just not the type of player Mucks goes for. Also too expensive for what he really provides recently: 46 points last season, 9 points the season before. Also we weaken the D to add to the up front skill set when we already have lots of forwards (the Sens might trade a C to get a LW, but not C+D to get LW). Finally if you watched Rachunek play tonight you would not be giving him up for an undersized, gets injured, too expensive forward.
The stats:
2002-03 Pittsburgh NHL 60 18 28 46 -18
2001-02 Pittsburgh NHL 13 5 4 9 +3
2000-01 Pittsburgh NHL 82 27 68 95 +19
1999-00 Pittsburgh NHL 71 20 39 59 +24
1998-99 Pittsburgh NHL 80 35 48 83 +12
1997-98 Pittsburgh NHL 75 19 23 42 -1
1996-97 Florida NHL 55 7 22 29 +9
1995-96 Total Ott/NYI/Fla NHL 77 13 30 43 -19
1994-95 Total Pit/Ott NHL 37 5 13 18 -1
1993-94 Pittsburgh NHL 84 30 34 64 +24
1992-93 Pittsburgh NHL 42 3 13 16 +2
Couldn't agree more with that post. I'm not saying Straka can't play, he's just not the type of player Mucks goes for. Also too expensive for what he really provides recently: 46 points last season, 9 points the season before. Also we weaken the D to add to the up front skill set when we already have lots of forwards (the Sens might trade a C to get a LW, but not C+D to get LW). Finally if you watched Rachunek play tonight you would not be giving him up for an undersized, gets injured, too expensive forward.
The stats:
2002-03 Pittsburgh NHL 60 18 28 46 -18
2001-02 Pittsburgh NHL 13 5 4 9 +3
2000-01 Pittsburgh NHL 82 27 68 95 +19
1999-00 Pittsburgh NHL 71 20 39 59 +24
1998-99 Pittsburgh NHL 80 35 48 83 +12
1997-98 Pittsburgh NHL 75 19 23 42 -1
1996-97 Florida NHL 55 7 22 29 +9
1995-96 Total Ott/NYI/Fla NHL 77 13 30 43 -19
1994-95 Total Pit/Ott NHL 37 5 13 18 -1
1993-94 Pittsburgh NHL 84 30 34 64 +24
1992-93 Pittsburgh NHL 42 3 13 16 +2
Couldn't agree more with that post. I'm not saying Straka can't play, he's just not the type of player Mucks goes for. Also too expensive for what he really provides recently: 46 points last season, 9 points the season before. Also we weaken the D to add to the up front skill set when we already have lots of forwards (the Sens might trade a C to get a LW, but not C+D to get LW). Finally if you watched Rachunek play tonight you would not be giving him up for an undersized, gets injured, too expensive forward.
The stats:
2002-03 Pittsburgh NHL 60 18 28 46 -18
2001-02 Pittsburgh NHL 13 5 4 9 +3
2000-01 Pittsburgh NHL 82 27 68 95 +19
1999-00 Pittsburgh NHL 71 20 39 59 +24
1998-99 Pittsburgh NHL 80 35 48 83 +12
1997-98 Pittsburgh NHL 75 19 23 42 -1
1996-97 Florida NHL 55 7 22 29 +9
1995-96 Total Ott/NYI/Fla NHL 77 13 30 43 -19
1994-95 Total Pit/Ott NHL 37 5 13 18 -1
1993-94 Pittsburgh NHL 84 30 34 64 +24
1992-93 Pittsburgh NHL 42 3 13 16 +2
I'd like to note i'm just using these trades as a hypothetical situation, and being fair on terms of value. Doesn't mean i think they would be good fits for any of the teams.
I am suprised by the number of people who said the Edmonton New Jersey trade was good I would trade Comrie straight up for Colin White(pretty fair) in a heartbeat let alone tossing in Friesen for free.Ditto for everything andora said.
Reasoning: There's some talk that the Devils might want to acquire a center as they are a little weak down the middle, IMHO. Comrie would combine with Gomez give them a nice one-two punch down the middle and Madden would be one of the best third line centers in the game. I realize Comrie might not be a perfect fit in Jersey, but on the other hands, Burns' demanding style might get the best out of Comrie, who's a bit of an enigma. Friesen looks like he's ready to blossom offensively and could score 30 goals in the more wide open Western Conference. White would be a nasty physical presence for the Oilers, who would make anyone have second thoughts about slipping into the Oilers zone.
Comrie is not worth Friesen or White alone let alone both of them together.
The trade doesn't make sense on so many levels.
1. Why would Edmonton Take on the salary of White and Friesen?
2. Why would NJ trade one of their top 4 Dmen after loosing Daneyko, Tverdovsky, and Shmelik in the off season.
3. Why would NJ trade a Potential 30 goal scorer (in your estimation) for a potential 30 goal scorer who has an attitiude problem. Friesen was arguably the best player during the Devils Stanely Cup Run and during this summer when his contract came due he took the same amount of money he made last season. Those good faith gestures made by players are rewarded in NJ.
Comrie brings no size to NJ and that is what is missing down the middle.
With Zach Parise waiting in the wings.......Comrie to NJ makes no sense
I'd do the first trade from a pens standpoint although I REALLY like Straka, this trade would be too good to pass up. Ottawa's 2nd would be pretty close to the pens' 3rd.
while i am surprised that Ottowa would give this much up, i too like teh deal. hell, i think even taking the picks out, Pens fans wouldtake this deal. i like it!
To Pittsburgh: Todd White (C/LW), Karel Rachunek (D), 2nd round pick (2004) To Ottawa: Martin Straka (LW/C), 3rd round pick (2004)
Golly, never will I understand why people like to make change with draft picks. To me, this deal is all about Ottawa getting Straka. Which is fine. I think, though, it would need to be balanced positionally. Maybe something like this?
To pitts: White, Rachunek, 2nd rounder
To Otts: Straka, Rosival
or better yet..
Straka for White and a 2nd, however, pitts would want Straka for the Ottawa first, personally.
Reasoning: There's some talk that the Devils might want to acquire a center as they are a little weak down the middle, IMHO. Comrie would combine with Gomez give them a nice one-two punch down the middle and Madden would be one of the best third line centers in the game. I realize Comrie might not be a perfect fit in Jersey, but on the other hands, Burns' demanding style might get the best out of Comrie, who's a bit of an enigma. Friesen looks like he's ready to blossom offensively and could score 30 goals in the more wide open Western Conference. White would be a nasty physical presence for the Oilers, who would make anyone have second thoughts about slipping into the Oilers zone.
K, I am a oilers fan, and I think NJ gets hosed on this deal. We don't need a left winger, we are thick at that position. Colin white looks nice though. This deal would never happen though, not at least without EDM adding a pick or player.
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