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New News On Luongo *new rumor threads will be merged or deleted*
not to distract from the issues at hand here, but given what Thornton went for, i don't think the Avs would have to give up Svatos + Liles + Budaj for Luongo.
not to say the Bruins got fleeced, i actually the think deal was relatively fair. but franchise players apparently aren't garnering as much as they should these days.
the biggest knock against the Thornton deal IMO was that MOC didn't take his time with the deal... most GMs, it seems, didn't even know that Thornton was on the block. MOC went to San Jose, who he's dealt with before, and made a quick deal, without fielding offers from around the league.... Nonis commented on this last night, saying that he had no idea that Thornton was even available.
If that happens with Luongo - I agree that Colorado doesn't have to give up as much... and if Keenan is stupid enough to deal his franchise goalie without trying to create a bidding war for him, he deserves to get ripped off.
However, given the number of rumours already out there about Luongo, if and when Keenan starts to actively field offers for him, he should be able to get some very competitive bids.... I doubt that Vancouver and Edmonton, for example, will just sit there and not make a better offer, if the offers for Luongo are really not that high to begin with, from Colorado.
the biggest knock against the Thornton deal IMO was that MOC didn't take his time with the deal... most GMs, it seems, didn't even know that Thornton was on the block. MOC went to San Jose, who he's dealt with before, and made a quick deal, without fielding offers from around the league.... Nonis commented on this last night, saying that he had no idea that Thornton was even available.
If that happens with Luongo - I agree that Colorado doesn't have to give up as much... and if Keenan is stupid enough to deal his franchise goalie without trying to create a bidding war for him, he deserves to get ripped off.
However, given the number of rumours already out there about Luongo, if and when Keenan starts to actively field offers for him, he should be able to get some very competitive bids.... I doubt that Vancouver and Edmonton, for example, will just sit there and not make a better offer, if the offers for Luongo are really not that high to begin with, from Colorado.
There's also the issue of the price tag both players carry. Luongo wanted the five to six million to compensate him playin for a loser the next four or five years, where as his demands might not be as high immediately playing for a winning franchise. Thornton hasn't lived up to his potential, yet carries an $6.6 mil figure with him. The difference in price is goin to affect many offers for the next year and a half as what Luongo can make is limited by qualifying offers and arbitration. Someone could potentially reap a windfall of money in that time icing a Stanley Cup winner with Luongo in net.
Wasn't there a Brown and Grebeshkov for Bouwmeester proposal on here a couple days ago?
so we are looking at Corvo and Garon for Luongo? I think Florida passes.
Brown + Grebeschkov(potential bust) = Bouwmeester
Luongo>>>>>>>>>>>>Garon and Corvo
I think this deal depends largely on factors beyond the value of the players themselves. Namely, Luongo's alleged unhappiness with his contract and Keenan's alleged dislike of Bouwmeester.
There's a sticky at the top of this section of the boards dedicated for Luongo proposals after all the rumors surrounding him and so many different threads. Next time look closer: http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=191874
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Originally Posted by KingBrath
Okay then how about you tell me why instead of being an *** about it.
Why? Sometimes this place is to P.C. when an asinine proposal is posted and has zero chance of happening. LA would have to change Grebeschkov to Visnovsky just to start with...your package alone would be about what Luongo would go for (compared to Svatos, Liles and Budaj which has been suggested).
Even King's fans know Grebeshkov might not reach his potential. It's not Duck fan bias.
He has turnover problems, he is not physical and I question his overall offensive upside.
Obviously you dont know much about him.... Only thing which is true that you said is his turnover problem otherwise he would easily be in the NHL his offense upside? He was #2 in pts for defenders last yr as a 21 yr old is that not good enough for you? As for the physical that was something said origonally which has changed; yet why would you know simply complaining about anything a King's fan posts on the boards is nothing new for you.....
On that note to the trade I agree as a Kings fan I'd be willing to add something or someone(s) depending on who - Would adding Pushkarev make it better or fair?
one more thing, he is 21-22 yrs old!!!! many many of the great offensive defenseman dont come in to the league and play well untill their mid 20's. bust highly unlikely.
you'd figure that published writers should at least get their facts straight before they release an article?
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Keenan engineers deals to acquire franchise defensemen (Chris Pronger in St. Louis, Ed Jovanovski in Vancouver), not to move them out. Bouwmeester's staying put.
Jovo was part of the Bure deal... it was Burke that was the GM then, not Keenan.
kinda makes you wonder about other details in his article - Florida unlikely to re-sign Jokinen? Luongo and JBo not moving? etc... who knows what else this guy is making up or simply doesn't have his facts straight on??
you'd figure that published writers should at least get their facts straight before they release an article?
Jovo was part of the Bure deal... it was Burke that was the GM then, not Keenan.
kinda makes you wonder about other details in his article - Florida unlikely to re-sign Jokinen? Luongo and JBo not moving? etc... who knows what else this guy is making up or simply doesn't have his facts straight on??
That's what I thought, but wasn't quite sure. I know there was a (breif) overlap of those regimes. I'll go ahead and read into it that it's symptomatic of Keenan's overrated reputation as a dealer.
I thought the same thing as you when you saw Florida hiring him as his gm.
