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11-30-2005, 11:45 PM
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First of all, I have a feeling DW is not done dealing. I have a feeling guys will be traded for a good defenseman. Nabokov is the most likely candidate (although I don't feel he deserves the blame), and guys like Ekman and Dimitrakos could also be gone. But for now...

Marleau - J.Thornton - Bernier
Michalek - McCauley - Cheechoo
S.Thornton - Goc - Ekman
Stevenson - Smith - Langfeld

McLaren - Ehrhoff
Hannan - Preissing
Davison - Fahey

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11-30-2005, 11:47 PM
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Move Goc with Smith and I'll go with that.

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I like these better:



Marleau - J.Thornton - Michalek
Ekman - McCauley - Bernier
S.Thornton - Goc - Cheechoo
Stevenson/Parker - Smith - Langfeld

2nd and 3rd lines are interchangeable in my mind too.

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I like those too, Pat. Basically, I think Joe will make whoever is on his wings, whether it be Bernier or Michalek, an instant scoring thread.

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11-30-2005, 11:51 PM
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While I agree that Patty should play wing, I saw DW say somthing like "with Joe and Patty down the middle..." so I doubt he plays there.

Maybe I'm reading too much into that comment though.

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Think Wilson might Throw Scott in the same line as Joe to see if they can get some family chemistry?

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Think Wilson might Throw Scott in the same line as Joe to see if they can get some family chemistry?
IMO, family chemistry means nothing. But then again, look what Joe did for Knuble. I'd keep Scott Thornton on the 3rd though.

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Think Wilson might Throw Scott in the same line as Joe to see if they can get some family chemistry?
Yup, that was from the AP report. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

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"He's a special guy. The combination of he and (Patrick) Marleau down the middle should be very strong for us."
I still say though...MARLEAU ON THE MOTHER *** WING!

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Baron, the Sharks are on a 10 game skid, don't you think after this trade there at the point of trying anything?

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I believe that as much as it makes sense to us, the Sharks will never put Marleau on the wing. I can recall, a long while ago, the comment that "you don't develop your future #1 center by playing him on the wing." The Sharks have always seen Marleau, and continue to see him, as a center.

So at least for the foreseeable future, you should create your line combinations with Marleau in the middle. It will be a long time, I think, before the decision is made to try him on the wing, if ever. Nothing that anyone in the organization has said leads one to believe that this move signals a shift for Marleau to the wing.

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I believe that as much as it makes sense to us, the Sharks will never put Marleau on the wing. I can recall, a long while ago, the comment that "you don't develop your future #1 center by playing him on the wing." The Sharks have always seen Marleau, and continue to see him, as a center.

So at least for the foreseeable future, you should create your line combinations with Marleau in the middle. It will be a long time, I think, before the decision is made to try him on the wing, if ever. Nothing that anyone in the organization has said leads one to believe that this move signals a shift for Marleau to the wing.
Ok you partypooper! LOL.

Michalek - Thornton - Cheechoo
Goc - Marleau - Bernier
Thornton - McCauley - Ekman
Stevenson - Smith - Langfeld

Goc has playmaking ability, thus being a good fit for Marleau. How's that?

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Ok you partypooper! LOL.

Michalek - Thornton - Cheechoo
Goc - Marleau - Bernier
Thornton - McCauley - Ekman
Stevenson - Smith - Langfeld

Goc has playmaking ability, thus being a good fit for Marleau. How's that?
Looks great to me

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I believe that as much as it makes sense to us, the Sharks will never put Marleau on the wing. I can recall, a long while ago, the comment that "you don't develop your future #1 center by playing him on the wing." The Sharks have always seen Marleau, and continue to see him, as a center.

So at least for the foreseeable future, you should create your line combinations with Marleau in the middle. It will be a long time, I think, before the decision is made to try him on the wing, if ever. Nothing that anyone in the organization has said leads one to believe that this move signals a shift for Marleau to the wing.
I hear ya but, know we have a #1 center... It could change things.

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Marleau plays more like a tall winger than he does a true center. Patty has been a shooter his whole life. I was arguing this way before Joe came to town. Flank Joe with Patty and you have a formidable top line, spread the centers thin and you have depth at center with no scoring on the wings. I say make a good top line.

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Marleau plays more like a tall winger than he does a true center. Patty has been a shooter his whole life. I was arguing this way before Joe came to town. Flank Joe with Patty and you have a formidable top line, spread the centers thin and you have depth at center with no scoring on the wings. I say make a good top line.
Agreed, many of us here have also been longing for Marleau on the wing. Btw, you still owe us a new photochop buddy, ha.

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Michalek - Joe Thornton - Cheechoo
Ekman - Marleau - Bernier
McCauley - Goc - Stevenson
(Goc & Stevenson seem to be clicking, so keep them together while we can)

Scott Thornton - Smith - Langfeld/Parker

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Michalek - Joe Thornton - Cheechoo
Ekman - Marleau - Bernier
McCauley - Goc - Stevenson
(Goc & Stevenson seem to be clicking, so keep them together while we can)

Scott Thornton - Smith - Langfeld/Parker
I think thats the best one I've seen so far, I agree with the Goc and Stevenson note, they seem to be a good pair.

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Michalek - Joe Thornton - Cheechoo
Ekman - Marleau - Bernier
McCauley - Goc - Stevenson
(Goc & Stevenson seem to be clicking, so keep them together while we can)

Scott Thornton - Smith - Langfeld/Parker

I forgot about Niko, if he is playing play hot,
Michalek - Joe Thornton - Cheechoo
Ekman - Marleau - Niko/Bernier
McCauley - Goc - Stevenson
Scott Thornton - Smith - Langfeld/Parker

I still think we are going to trade Niko + low/mid pick to Caps for Witt!

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Agreed, many of us here have also been longing for Marleau on the wing.
I wanted to see that over four years ago. But I'm just trying to be the voice of reason here - if you want to be realistic, you make your lines with Marleau in the middle

Hey, Shawn Thornton was put on waivers, why not pick him up? Sc. Thornton/J.Thornton/Sh.Thornton.

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Michalek - Joe Thornton - Cheechoo
Ekman - Marleau - Niko/Bernier
McCauley - Goc - Stevenson
Scott Thornton - Smith - Langfeld/Parker
I'd flip Michalek and Ekman since both Milan and Thornton seem to like to pass and would fit better on different lines.

If Cheech plays with Thornton I'd seriously consider picking him up for my fantasy team.

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If Cheech plays with Thornton I'd seriously consider picking him up for my fantasy team.
The next Knuble?

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The next Knuble?
Hell yes! But better!

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I'd flip Michalek and Ekman since both Milan and Thornton seem to like to pass and would fit better on different lines.

If Cheech plays with Thornton I'd seriously consider picking him up for my fantasy team.
Agree with shoe on the milan/nils flip. Though I'd like to see Bernier spend a bit more time down in the AHL. I'd put ScottT on patty's wing with michalek to create space and ease patty's physical load a bit. Then swap langfeld/parker/dimo/clowe?/etc in&out on the 4th.

Or lets have some fun and go with 2 helicopter lines and 2 without centers....patty-thornton-stevenson & smith-goc-mccauley?

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Don't know much about the Sharks lineup....but I gotta say that a 1-2 punch of Thornton and Marleau down the middle is pretty impressive....I'm glad you guys are in the western conference...

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oh lordy what to do now? I'm going to expand a little bit on this thread and say what I think should happen now.

Things have gotten to a point where it never should have come to in San Jose. I'm talking about losing 10 games in a row and this start from hell for the 05/06 season. The good is that it looks like management is making an effort to turn things around with this blockbuster trade in place, but we can't stop here.

What to do next: make it known that this team is expected to win. We have a lot of good players and a pretty good staff, but if the losing keeps up, heads are going to roll. Ron Wilson should be under close watch by management to see if he can turn things around at this point, or if the Sharks will continue to slide down in the standings.

Put pressure on the veterans to lead this team. I know we don't have a lot of really old guys on the team, but you got to have higher standards for older more experienced players than 1st year rookies. And a bit of a side not on this topic, play Ehrhoff. I know he makes mistakes, but benching him will only mess with his confidence. Korolyuk learned how to play defense this way and it can work for Christian. Get him out there, the sooner the better.

As for goaltending, I would reluctantly be starting Schaefer. He's was hot before, and the team was winning when he was in nets, it's also great experience for him. In the meantime, Nabokov needs to get back to the basics. He is still the same guy who won the Vezina in 2001 and its almost painful to watch him sturggling like this. Have Strelow work with him for a while to get him back to his old form.

As for the original topic, I think the sharks will want to showcase Thornton playing with Marleau so here is my guess:

Marleau - Joe - Cheechoo
Ekman - McCauley - Dimitrakos
Stevenson - Goc - Langfeld
S. Thornton - Smith - Parker

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