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11-30-2005, 09:06 AM
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Am I missing something about the Flyers?

So I'm reading Spectors, and he links the Philadelphia Inquirer which says that if Primeau is gone for the rest of the season, they will have to shop for a top two center.

But don't the Flyers still have Forsberg, Handzus, and Carter to play center? I would think Forsberg + Handzus would make fantastic top two centers.

Am I missing something?

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11-30-2005, 09:12 AM
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The Flyers would need another center, but because of the versatility of handzus they could opt for a 2nd line center and use Handzus as the shutdown guy or pick up a 3rd line center (Peca type) and keep Handzus on the 2nd line.

Handzus is a better 2nd line player than he is 3rd line shutdown guy.

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11-30-2005, 09:14 AM
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I just don't want to see a young player we could use now and down the road go for another rental player

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11-30-2005, 09:20 AM
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The Flyers would need another center, but because of the versatility of handzus they could opt for a 2nd line center and use Handzus as the shutdown guy or pick up a 3rd line center (Peca type) and keep Handzus on the 2nd line.

Handzus is a better 2nd line player than he is 3rd line shutdown guy.
Got it:

So Forsberg - Carter - Handzus is doable if necessary, but a better option would be: Forsberg - Handzus - XXX, and use Carter on the wing?

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11-30-2005, 09:54 AM
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I just don't want to see a young player we could use now and down the road go for another rental player
we have about five million draft picks next year... there's your trade ammo.

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11-30-2005, 10:17 AM
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Wasn't Gagne originally a center? What about shopping for a winger instead and making Gags the 2nd line center?

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11-30-2005, 11:05 AM
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Wasn't Gagne originally a center? What about shopping for a winger instead and making Gags the 2nd line center?
because he's on pace to score 50 goals in 50 games playing with Forsberg? he's not an NHL center at that...

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11-30-2005, 11:59 AM
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I still think we need winger rather than another Centre

Handzus
Carter
Richards
Sharp
Umberger
Gagne

When Brashear is playing as much as he is, it shows you that the Flyers are in desperate need of a winger.

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he's not an NHL center at that...
He hasn't played center since the Q right?

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He hasn't played center since the Q right?
he's played a few games at center due to injury... outside of that he's been at the wing.

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I think we need another 2nd line player but not necessairly at center; Forsberg, Handzus, Richards and Carter are all there and doing well enough but we need a big man in the top 2 lines to throw the body around and help us out a little with all these injuries.

Handzus has been superb though filling in with all these injuries, he really has been the unsung hero of the season so far.

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I think a winger would be a better trade than for another center.

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If Primeau is out for the season/career then another center will be brought in, IMO if Primeau comes back the Flyers are set at center.

Depending on how much cap space will be available at the deadline but i suspect two veteran d-men and a top-6 winger is on the wish list.

2 D-men, 2.5 million
1 Winger, 2.5 million

5 million total, 1.25 million in cap space needed at the deadline i think.

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11-30-2005, 01:19 PM
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If Primeau is out for the season/career then another center will be brought in, IMO if Primeau comes back the Flyers are set at center.

Depending on how much cap space will be available at the deadline but i suspect two veteran d-men and a top-6 winger is on the wish list.

2 D-men, 2.5 million
1 Winger, 2.5 million

5 million total, 1.25 million in cap space needed at the deadline i think.
damaged goods guys.... damaged goods. he's going to get another concussion this season if he comes back is my guess... i'm not planning on him for the playoffs.

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he's played a few games at center due to injury... outside of that he's been at the wing.
Didn't he play centre when Lindros went out that one year?

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id like too see someone like peca come. handzus is playing good on wing and so is umberger. and a #6 d man is a nessesicty

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If you're talking about the actual Mike Peca rather than a Peca-type player, no thanks. He's way overpaid for a 3rd line player.

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whats his salary? cause primeau is 3rd line and he makes a big salary too

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whats his salary? cause primeau is 3rd line and he makes a big salary too
Yeah but Primeau's the captain.

There's an idea...who is the lowest and highest paid captain in the league?

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whats his salary? cause primeau is 3rd line and he makes a big salary too
i forget the number, but he actually signed below market prior to the lockout and then you chop it from there. while his concussion issues, looking at it now, probably make the deal a bit high, it is a fair contract. i think he's making something in the 3.x range.

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If you're talking about the actual Mike Peca rather than a Peca-type player, no thanks. He's way overpaid for a 3rd line player.
He's a UFA at season's end. If he was acquired at the deadline, his salary would be almost fully paid.

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He's a UFA at season's end. If he was acquired at the deadline, his salary would be almost fully paid.
if Preems is done i would think the idea of a deal for Peca to be one with legs.

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I'm kind of holding out hope that Phoenix doesn't qualify for the playoffs. Maybe then we can get a chance at making a deal for Dave Scatchard. I think he could really excel in Hitch's system. As well, he has a modest contract that isn't very hard to swallow.

I'm in agreement though that we could use a goal scoring winger. Someone like Petr Sykora would be great on the top line and we could then bump Knuble to a line with Richards and Handzus. We then have a third line of Carter with Umberger and Kapanen and a fourth line of Sharp with Stevenson and Sim.

I'd really like to see us drop Brashear and use Eager. I like Ben's abilities, but I don't like how they were using him with the Phantoms. We all know he can fight, but if John Stevens feels that having him in an "energy" role is a good use for him, he's sorely mistaken. Eager can skate and check. He has the making of a great checking line forward and maybe someone in Philadelphia will buy a clue and realize that. Add to the fact he isn't a liability like Brashear and he could possibly do some great things here.

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