HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Proposal: Make an offer for a thrashers goalie

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-03-2003, 08:02 PM
  #1
Peter Sidorkiewicz
Kovalchuk Army
 
Peter Sidorkiewicz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,742
vCash: 500
Proposal: Make an offer for a thrashers goalie

Dafoe, Nurminen and Hurme are all available for a top two line scoring forward. No draft picks or defencemen please! No other deals for core members/top prospects of the team. Fire away!

Peter Sidorkiewicz is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 08:15 PM
  #2
incawg
Registered User
 
incawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Canuckland
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,009
vCash: 500
Hurme is probably the most valuable of the bunch and he was acquired for a 4th rounder. That should give you an indication of the value you could get for your goalies.

incawg is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 08:16 PM
  #3
Alfie#11
Registered User
 
Alfie#11's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,331
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Sidorkiewicz
Dafoe, Nurminen and Hurme are all available for a top two line scoring forward. No draft picks or defencemen please! No other deals for core members/top prospects of the team. Fire away!
Atlanta won't get more than a 3rd pick or a prospect or a depth player for any of their goalies. They won't get a top two liner.

I think Atlanta got Hurme to use him. Dafoe is injury prone and played awful last year. He may not be a legit NHLer anymore. Nurminen isn't proven despite showing well last year.

Hurme is much like Nurminen but has more of a track record. He may very well end up the teams #1. Nurminen could be the backup. Dafoe - limbo?

Alfie#11 is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 08:48 PM
  #4
andora
Registered User
 
andora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Illuminating Prince
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,026
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to andora
dafoe to the rangers for malakhov ?...

andora is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 08:56 PM
  #5
#37-#93-#27*
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 3,079
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to #37-#93-#27*
Quote:
Originally Posted by andora's box
dafoe to the rangers for malakhov ?...
Why would we want Dafoe when we could have picked up Cujo on waivers not to mention we already have a better goaltender in Dunham and even Markkanen, hell add Blackburn even!

#37-#93-#27* is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 09:28 PM
  #6
Lessard Fretter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 120
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Lessard Fretter
The Thrashers are not stupid enough to trade off Nurminen, IMO.

But Hurme or Dafoe will be moved ASAP, likely in a package for a scoring forward as recent articles have hinted. The media is suggesting the Thrashers will move Hurme on, and that's likely the case unless someone will take a chance on Dafoe with his contract.

Lastly Nurminen was 3-1 this preseason and will be the Thrashers starter, regardless, but without Heatley and Snyder all season, more moves will have to be made to give the team a okay chance at the playoffs because they're lacking in balance without those two key players, IMO.

Lessard Fretter is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 09:29 PM
  #7
andora
Registered User
 
andora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Illuminating Prince
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,026
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to andora
Quote:
Originally Posted by #37-#93-#27
Why would we want Dafoe when we could have picked up Cujo on waivers not to mention we already have a better goaltender in Dunham and even Markkanen, hell add Blackburn even!

my mistake, i had forgotten about markkanen..

it would have been for this reasoning:

- blackburn in minors
- rangers spend money

markkanen wipes out my idea.. *bad memory*

andora is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 09:31 PM
  #8
Yayo
 
Yayo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,938
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lessard Fretter
The Thrashers are not stupid enough to trade off Nurminen, IMO.

But Hurme or Dafoe will be moved ASAP, likely in a package for a scoring forward as recent articles have hinted. The media is suggesting the Thrashers will move Hurme on, and that's likely the case unless someone will take a chance on Dafoe with his contract.

Lastly Nurminen was 3-1 this preseason and will be the Thrashers starter, regardless, but without Heatley and Snyder all season, more moves will have to be made to give the team a okay chance at the playoffs because they're lacking in balance without those two key players, IMO.
Just for fun:

To Colorado:
Jani Hurme

To Atlanta:
Bates Battaglia

Yayo is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 09:42 PM
  #9
incawg
Registered User
 
incawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Canuckland
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,009
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Man
Just for fun:

To Colorado:
Jani Hurme

To Atlanta:
Bates Battaglia
Why wouldn't the avs just have undercut the thrashers offer and put up a 3rd rounder for hurme today? That's got to be worth more than bates.

incawg is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 10:45 PM
  #10
leaflover
New hope
 
leaflover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: beautiful B.C
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,921
vCash: 1250
A couple points.

The market for goaltenders is quite possibly at an alltime low,thus the return of dealing either of those 3 would reflect the dismal goaltender marketplace.

Those that are writing off Dafoe because he had a bad year need only look at what Belfour accomplished following a year that had many HFers calling him a hasbeen.Now Dafoe is not as good as belfour but he's much better than he was in the worst season of his career(last season).

If Dafoe can regain his form it would allow them to deal a younger cheaper goalie which would provide them the best return.Afterall Lehtonen is the future #1 in Atlanta and he may be as little as 2 years away.

leaflover is offline  
Old
10-03-2003, 11:03 PM
  #11
Patch101
Registered User
 
Patch101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kamloops
Posts: 1,572
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to Patch101 Send a message via AIM to Patch101 Send a message via Yahoo to Patch101
Between the 2 its hard to say what to do. I think you have to give Hurme credit for his consistancy, 3 seasons, two teams 904, 907, 907
but yet to prove he's able to handle the #1

Nurminen, did very well while load bryan was down. Almost seemed to be the go to guy at the end of the season. Same age as Hurme.

Lord Bryan, I'm not sure what people have seen in him really. He played two excellent seasons (65 games each) but paired with injury has fallen and has played in and out since. For the money and his age .... big question mark.

Obviously Atlanta picked up Hurme because they think that he fits into their plans. So is it possible that they will give Lord Bryan a few games and if he doesn't impress ... waiver time? If Not its Nurminen ...

SM

Patch101 is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 12:56 AM
  #12
triggrman
HFBoards Sponsor
 
triggrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Country: United States
Posts: 17,496
vCash: 500
So you pick a goalie out of the waiver draft and now he's worth a second line scorer? Jesus what can Nashville get for Lasak then?

triggrman is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 01:02 AM
  #13
Safir*
 
Safir*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Country: Turkmenistan
Posts: 13,959
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Sidorkiewicz
Dafoe, Nurminen and Hurme are all available for a top two line scoring forward. No draft picks or defencemen please! No other deals for core members/top prospects of the team. Fire away!
Let's wait a little while and see, which teams may get goaltending problems (injury, bad playing).

It's strange not a long time ago the Thrashers had a goaltending problem, now they have luxury problem.

IMO a deal with Philly may be possible in the future.

PHI: Dafoe
ATL: Therrien

Safir* is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 03:38 AM
  #14
Freudian
Patty likes beef
 
Freudian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Country: Sweden
Posts: 30,052
vCash: 0
TO EDM: Hurme and Stefan

To ATL: Comrie + 6th

Freudian is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 04:37 AM
  #15
Vincent Vega
GGTK
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,842
vCash: 500
TO ATL: Therian
TO PHI: Hurme

Vincent Vega is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 05:40 AM
  #16
Jovavic
Lose to CBJ?
 
Jovavic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: ClosedDoorMeeting
Country: Qatar
Posts: 10,789
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Jovavic
Have Turner look under his couch for the money to buyout Dafoe.

Jovavic is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 05:54 AM
  #17
btn
Gone Hollywood
 
btn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: ATL
Country: United States
Posts: 15,674
vCash: 500
I am certain that DW has already recieved some offers for one of the Thrashers goalies, and the Hurme move gives him the freedom to make a deal.

Look for perhaps a package deal with Nurminen and a defenseman or prospect for a Top 6 player. With Heatley's destroyed knee(torn ACL and MCL), perhaps a Comrie deal is in the mix. I think the Thrashers may pick up some serious salary.

btn is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 06:13 AM
  #18
Holly Gunning
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: out and about
Posts: 3,486
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Ozzie X
Have Turner look under his couch for the money to buyout Dafoe.
Ted Turner never owned the Thrashers. This is one of the biggest misconceptions out there. AOL/TimeWarner was the original owner, and the team was just sold in the last month to a local group calling themselves Atlanta Spirit LLC.

I think you're right about the salary, btn. With Heatley out, that frees up about $3 million in lost bonuses.

Holly Gunning is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 09:12 AM
  #19
Yayo
 
Yayo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,938
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by incawg
Why wouldn't the avs just have undercut the thrashers offer and put up a 3rd rounder for hurme today? That's got to be worth more than bates.
Well, the original poster said no draft picks or prospects...Battaglia is a borderline second-line forward...


Yayo is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 09:20 AM
  #20
FacelessButcher
Registered User
 
FacelessButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,201
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freudian
TO EDM: Hurme and Stefan

To ATL: Comrie + 6th
This is a pretty bad one we could of picked up Hurme for free if we wanted and u only paid a 4th for him so it might as well read this

Stefan +4th pick 2004 for Comrie + 6th pick 2004 now can u honestly say that's a fair trade?No I didn't think so. I would be knocking on Lowe's door with a shotgun if he did this one.

FacelessButcher is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 11:43 AM
  #21
Freudian
Patty likes beef
 
Freudian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Country: Sweden
Posts: 30,052
vCash: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by FacelessButcher
This is a pretty bad one we could of picked up Hurme for free if we wanted and u only paid a 4th for him so it might as well read this

Stefan +4th pick 2004 for Comrie + 6th pick 2004 now can u honestly say that's a fair trade?no I didn't think so I would be knocking on Lowe's door with a shotgun if he did this one.
How could Edmonton picked up Hurme for free? Anyway, it would all depend on how confident Edmonton are that Conklin will do ok. And you are forgetting Comries value is much lower because he is a holdout. Once Edmonton signs him, they can get full value for him in a trade.

Anyway, I am not an Atlanta fan so "we" didn't only pay a 4th for him, "they" did.

Freudian is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 12:29 PM
  #22
JOHNBOY
BUFFALO SABRES
 
JOHNBOY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denver NC
Country: United States
Posts: 10,149
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to JOHNBOY
To Buf, Byron Dafoe

To Atl. Curtis Brown

JOHNBOY is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 02:39 PM
  #23
leaflover
New hope
 
leaflover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: beautiful B.C
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,921
vCash: 1250
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOHNBOY
To Buf, Byron Dafoe

To Atl. Curtis Brown
Buffalo is deeeeeeeeeeeep in net already.

leaflover is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 05:32 PM
  #24
JOHNBOY
BUFFALO SABRES
 
JOHNBOY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denver NC
Country: United States
Posts: 10,149
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to JOHNBOY
Quote:
Originally Posted by leaflover
Buffalo is deeeeeeeeeeeep in net already.
True but none with alot of NHL experience, besides doesnt he have a low priced contract

JOHNBOY is offline  
Old
10-04-2003, 05:54 PM
  #25
Peter Griffin
Registered User
 
Peter Griffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 26,803
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Sidorkiewicz
Dafoe, Nurminen and Hurme are all available for a top two line scoring forward.



Good one! Hurme was acquired for a 4th rounder, and like other people have stated could hold the most trade value of the three goalies. Nurminen, although he had a solid season is still fairly unproven and Dafoe at his salary and his play last season isn't exactly the most tradeable asset. On top of that, how many teams are actually looking for goaltending help? Possibly the Avs, but not really anyone else.

Peter Griffin is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:57 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.