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12-08-2005, 10:57 AM
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More Rumors.........

Well, now we're supposedly looking at Legace or Luongo. Again, coming from that other board..........I don't really buy it, but Luongo would be nice. They're saying Cammy and a prospect for Luongo........I think it would take a bit more than that.

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Saw this on the LGK board. The Luongo one is based almost entirely on the fact that Keenan was at the Kings-Leafs game.

And as for Legace....why would Detroit trade him?

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Nice avatar, swing. Who is that? Princess Leia's ugly sister, Princess Wouldn't Leia?

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Its the girl from Dodgeball...

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12-08-2005, 11:52 AM
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Regardless of how well Garon/Larbarbera play (and the better they play, the more value they would have to trade in return), it would stupid not to at least make an inquiry about Luongo. While I'm optimistic about our current tandem, they aren't (and never will be) anywhere near the level of Luongo.

If the assets that we have to deal away are somewhat reasonable (obviously it'd take more than Cammalleri & a prospect ) and we can sign Luongo to a deal that is not going to destroy our financial flexibility, I would probably do it. You'll never find a goalie like Luongo through free agency, you'll rarely ever find one in the draft and the times they are available on the trade market don't come around often.

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Regardless of how well Garon/Larbarbera play (and the better they play, the more value they would have to trade in return), it would stupid not to at least make an inquiry about Luongo. While I'm optimistic about our current tandem, they aren't (and never will be) anywhere near the level of Luongo.

If the assets that we have to deal away are somewhat reasonable (obviously it'd take more than Cammalleri & a prospect ) and we can sign Luongo to a deal that is not going to destroy our financial flexibility, I would probably do it. You'll never find a goalie like Luongo through free agency, you'll rarely ever find one in the draft and the times they are available on the trade market don't come around often.
indeed. but its pretty funny that none of the rumors about kings' trades have yet focused on what is clearly the number one priority, help on the blueline.

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12-08-2005, 01:04 PM
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indeed. but its pretty funny that none of the rumors about kings' trades have yet focused on what is clearly the number one priority, help on the blueline.
Not really. Who's out there? Noone's willing to pay Washington's price for Witt, Brewer is on shelf. Who else is there? The market is incredibly thin for defenseman and I'm sure their trade values are heightened as a result. Even if there was someone there, DT might not be willing to pay the assets required.

Nor would I blame him. Sure this team could hypothetically go on a run but this is not going to be the best lineup we have in the next five years. I think it'd be foolish to overpay for a defenseman at this point. I say we ride it out, maybe make a small deal for a defenseman, and then use the 7+million (plus whatever we are currently under) that is coming off the books and push HARD for 1 of the big free agent defenseman in Ontario. (Chara, Redden, McCabe, Kaberle)

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Legace... Legace... the name's familiar, but I can't figure out why...

Gee, I wonder what team let him go for nothing earlier in his career... *sigh*

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Not really. Who's out there? Noone's willing to pay Washington's price for Witt, Brewer is on shelf. Who else is there? The market is incredibly thin for defenseman and I'm sure their trade values are heightened as a result. Even if there was someone there, DT might not be willing to pay the assets required.

Good point.

I think the position that was hurt the most by the new rules was D-men.

We all knew that some guys games just didn't allow them to change with the new rules. I don't think we knew just how many d-man could make that change....

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Saw this on the LGK board.
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If Keenan was at the Toronto game he must have been very impressed with Garon. If we do make a move for Luongo I think Garon will definatley be part of the package.

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I'd give up a lot for an all-star goalie, and Luongo's wanted outta Florida for a while. It would have to take well more than Cammy and a prospect, though.

What is Luongo's salary and contract situation? If I remember right, he's UFA at the end of the year.

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Fair enough...but you can't sya that its not credible because of LGK.. they didn't start the rumour...it was Eklund who....you know, I don't know where I'm going with this.

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Not really. Who's out there? Noone's willing to pay Washington's price for Witt, Brewer is on shelf. Who else is there? The market is incredibly thin for defenseman and I'm sure their trade values are heightened as a result. Even if there was someone there, DT might not be willing to pay the assets required.

Nor would I blame him. Sure this team could hypothetically go on a run but this is not going to be the best lineup we have in the next five years. I think it'd be foolish to overpay for a defenseman at this point. I say we ride it out, maybe make a small deal for a defenseman, and then use the 7+million (plus whatever we are currently under) that is coming off the books and push HARD for 1 of the big free agent defenseman in Ontario. (Chara, Redden, McCabe, Kaberle)
i totally agree--i posted essentially the same thing in another thread a few days ago, and if i were dt, i would probably sit on my hands and wait for what comes down the waiver wire. my point was more that the realities of the trading market never stopped rumors, and i guess i felt that it was obvious that the kings were in need of blueliners and that rumors should address that, but of course they don't.

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Fair enough...but you can't sya that its not credible because of LGK.. they didn't start the rumour...it was Eklund who....you know, I don't know where I'm going with this.


Got to love Eklund. I wonder how many threads have been created because of what that guys makes up?

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Luongo seems to be the best player that may be available...but to me, he seems like a guy who would not play as well in a different situation...maybe he needs to see 40 shots a game, while playing in a no pressure environment...we've all seen players who are expected to come into a new situation and dominate, only to be a disapointment

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Well I'd be more then willing to add Garon with Cammalleri for Luongo and as for prospect.... Would Pushkarev do? or Grebs I'd like to keep Kopitar most then Tambs then Boyle I guess Tukonen maybe be I like him too..... Who knows but ya if we got him that woudl be amazing

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If Keenan was at the Toronto game he must have been very impressed with Garon. If we do make a move for Luongo I think Garon will definatley be part of the package.
cammy, garon, corvo and roenick for

luongo, beowmiester.

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cammy, garon, corvo and roenick for

luongo, beowmiester.
Beowmiester? Is that the dude from Chaucer?

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I think that a "Cammalleri and a prospect" would be closer to what would fetch Bouwmeester than Luongo. No one knows if it was Luongo that Keenan was dangling when he attended the game in Toronto.

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I think that a "Cammalleri and a prospect" would be closer to what would fetch Bouwmeester than Luongo. No one knows if it was Luongo that Keenan was dangling when he attended the game in Toronto.
Funny thing is, why was himself and Tambellini Sr. in the crowd.........who else was there? and are we really shopping? DT has been quiet and when approached he extinguishes the situation. I do agree that Kings need defensive help over anything, but you can easily start with Luongo and move out..........I do agree with "Willies" comments. The league is pretty dilluted right now on the defensive side of things, and we're not the only ones with defensive whipping boys........there is far worse.

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]Nice avatar, swing. Who is that? Princess Leia's ugly sister, Princess Wouldn't Leia?
Looks like a cross between Pavel Vorobiev and Roman Cechmanek........either way, somebody needs to take a flo-bee to that thing! Why are the Hawks players just letting that guy ride that thing.........it's atrocious!
KingsFan25 answered it though........Dodgeball..........and that ***** goes more than balls deep!

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What I would propose is:

To LA: Roberto Luongo (3.2 mill) and Mike Van Ryn (1.06)
To FLA: Mathieu Garon (1.2 mill), Jeff Tambellini, 2006 2nd rounder, 2007 4th rounder

If Luongo is acquired, then a goalie is going to have to go the other way. Garon still has not had his chance to be a #1 because of his split time with LaBarbera. Tambellini will be tough to lose but I think Keenan will want him more than Cammalleri. The picks are actually valuable picks in today's CBA.

Luongo is Luongo. He'll be the best goalie in the West and he'll have a decent team in front of him. Van Ryn would help out the PP and be a good defenseman that can log 20 minutes a night. Van Ryn is expendable because of Florida's acquisitions of Montador and Semenov in the last month. Bran Mezei is gone for the year but Florida has a decent corp of defensemen.

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