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05-17-2016, 02:40 PM
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I would bet money that we won't see Sokolov/Yakovenko. Have my doubts with Popugaev too.

18-year olds are always at a disadvantage unless they are 'special.'
Sokolov IS special. He's just had very unfortunate season. And he's physically gifted which will be his advantage. He's bigger than a lot of 19-20 years old. I have a feeling that he'll be on fire next season in OHL. But it would be better if he changes the team. If he doesn't light up the league than yeah, I guess we won't see him. Same for Popugayev.
P.S. Omsk's Sokolov-Zhukenov duo can be pretty dominant, they played a lot together for Avangard and NT.


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I don't know why Mityakin is not on the roster, but I expect him to be on December's team.
There are few missing names like Kaprizov for example.
Yes, Belyaev - Mityakin - Chebykin may very well be our 4th line.

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Sokolov IS special. He's just had very unfortunate season. And he's physically gifted which will be his advantage. He's bigger than a lot of 19-20 years old. I have a feeling that he'll be on fire next season in OHL.
I hope so!

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05-17-2016, 03:42 PM
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It isn't mentioned in the roster list, so does anyone know which Nikita Popugayev is invited?

Kaprizov, Polunin and Samsonov have been mentioned by Bragin as ones who don't need this training camp.

Sergachyov, Rubtsov, Abramov, Kuznetsov and Kayumov are probably busy with preparing for the draft combine tests.

A bit surprised by Mityakin's absence, maybe he was bad at 4 Nations?

I remember Trenin had some kind of an injury, although I thought he played in AHL after that.

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05-17-2016, 04:24 PM
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It isn't mentioned in the roster list, so does anyone know which Nikita Popugayev is invited?

Kaprizov, Polunin and Samsonov have been mentioned by Bragin as ones who don't need this training camp.

Sergachyov, Rubtsov, Abramov, Kuznetsov and Kayumov are probably busy with preparing for the draft combine tests.

A bit surprised by Mityakin's absence, maybe he was bad at 4 Nations?

I remember Trenin had some kind of an injury, although I thought he played in AHL after that.
So Polunin is a lock-up? I'm not sure he will be that good without his linemates.
I think it's big Popugayev, makes more sense.

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05-18-2016, 03:26 PM
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So Polunin is a lock-up? I'm not sure he will be that good without his linemates.
I think it's big Popugayev, makes more sense.
he's overhyped, not fan of both of them though. tough choice

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05-18-2016, 04:20 PM
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I would like to see something like this:

Kaprizov - Vorobyev - Guryanov
Sokolov - Zhukenov - Abramov
Trenin - Rubtsov - Popugayev
Yurtaikin - Alexeyev - Krikunenko
Kuznetsov

Sergachev - Zborovskiy
Rykov - Sidorov
Kudako - Volkov
Voronkov

Samsonov
Krasotkin
Berdin


But I really doubt about Yaroslavl's line. Yurtaikin has pretty good chances to crack the roster. But other two are to small for Bragin I think.
Will be interesting to compare with real roster in 6 months I've got a lot of '98 players, but I think it's only fair since all of them are top talents.
I like the Black Sea roster giving players like Lazarev and Korostelev etc a chance. For WJC I doubt Sokolov gets invited unless he is on 40 + goal pace, Kuznetsov probably less of a chance.

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05-25-2016, 05:02 AM
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How do you guys think our chances are looking? Do you think the 2017 has a good chance at Gold? Bragin at the helm, of course, so one can't doubt that the boys are going to be pumped.

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05-25-2016, 11:46 AM
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Great goaltending. Likely good defense. But enough offensive firepower?

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05-25-2016, 11:48 AM
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Great goaltending. Likely good defense. But enough offensive firepower?
I'm more worried about the defense, forward depth looks solid so far.

Again, very depends on availability of Provorov (likely not) and Guryanov (hopefully).

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Unless there are injuries I am not worried about defense. The top four guys here are like Sergachev, Rykov, Voronkov and Sidorov, and I like all four. Then you fill out the blueline with depth players and there are some.

You are right about depth at forward, but there are no stars. Although I still think Abramov might be one and Kaprizov is pretty good.

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Unless there are injuries I am not worried about defense. The top four guys here are like Sergachev, Rykov, Voronkov and Sidorov, and I like all four. Then you fill out the blueline with depth players and there are some.

You are right about depth at forward, but there are no stars. Although I still think Abramov might be one and Kaprizov is pretty good.
A Russian team with no quality forwards? Maybe they can win that way - play more as a team, with less focus on individual 'ego trips'?

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I wasn't talking about quality forwards. Referring more to true stars like Tarasenko and Kuznetsov.

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I wasn't talking about quality forwards. Referring more to true stars like Tarasenko and Kuznetsov.
skillwise abramov is no worse than them, then there's a drop

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The Black Sea Cup is going on at the moment. Russia 2 vs. Finland, Russia winning 9-0 at the end of the 2nd. You can watch the broadcast on the RIHF website. I guess the Finns didn't bring any of their best players though.


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05-27-2016, 10:17 AM
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The Black Sea Cup is going on at the moment. Russia 2 vs. Finland, Russia winning 9-0 at the end of the 2nd. You can watch the broadcast on the RIHF website. I guess the Finns didn't bring any of their best players though.
14-1 is the final score, it wasn't Finland NT, just some junior team from there.

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Ok, so aside from the Russia teams, participants are KJT from Finland's third tier league and HC Riga from MHL.

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Ok, so aside from the Russia teams, participants are KJT from Finland's third tier league and HC Riga from MHL.
Pretty random opponents, couldn't they lure some better teams over?

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Pretty random opponents, couldn't they lure some better teams over?
It's not that easy at the end of the season and actually it's not like it would be neccessary, the main event is still Russia-1 Vs. Russia-2 anyway.

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14-1 is the final score, it wasn't Finland NT, just some junior team from there.
Yeah, it seemed like the Finns were weaker physically. That kind of score would be unthinkable against the best Finnish players. Don't know what the point of the tournament is then.

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Yeah, it seemed like the Finns were weaker physically. That kind of score would be unthinkable against the best Finnish players. Don't know what the point of the tournament is then.
The point is that this Black Sea Cup is more of a training camp than a real tournament.

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The point is that this Black Sea Cup is more of a training camp than a real tournament.
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I think Karnaukhov has pretty good chances to be on this team in December.
I also liked Bobylev. He has solid size and Bragin prefers to take big guys to WJC.

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he's overhyped, not fan of both of them though. tough choice
I'm not a fan of big one either. But it makes more sense because Bragin prefers bigger guys. He hasn't played yet at Black Sea Cup though.

Why Artem Minulin wasn't invited? I think he has pretty good chances to be on this team in December. Segachev, Zborovskiy, Rykov, Voronkov, Sidorov, Kudako/Volkov + Minulin. Here's D line-up for WJC as I see it now.


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I like the Black Sea roster giving players like Lazarev and Korostelev etc a chance. For WJC I doubt Sokolov gets invited unless he is on 40 + goal pace, Kuznetsov probably less of a chance.
Yeah, it's really useful because Bragin has a chance to look at NA guys. I wonder why Minulin wasn't invited though.
I have a strong belief that Sokolov will redeem himself next season. He scored 30 goals this year being injured all season, struggling because of bad shape and really bad team. Next season he'll have an experience, he'll be healthy and he's already lost some weight. I really hope Sudbury will improve at their roster and game but even if not it's not unreasonable to expect 40+ goals season from Dmitry. I would like him to play for some other team though. Windsor, London or Kitchener would be great.

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