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02-22-2016, 11:01 AM
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Kamenev is still coming back from injury so it's not a surprise if he looked slow or rusty in a game.


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Kamenev is still coming back from injury so it's not a surprise if he looked slow or rusty in a game.
Yeah, it was a shame he wasn't up to snuff, but coming off injury would explain his lethargy. In all fairness, though, the shifts were too long too often. Even Jagr gets gassed at times and he is the most amazing athlete in the NHL.

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thanks CB. After the Jackman injury I think we may see Elliot called up if Poile doesnt make a trade
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Jackman skating today so he may not be out as long as we thought. Would like to see what Elliott could do, though.
Elliott was pretty good, imo. Like a lot of AHL/NHL tweeners he could stand to be a little more aggressive in his positioning and feel confident in his abilities. He's got enough speed to recover after mistakes of his or others, but needs to improve on decision-making. His offensive ability is clear. A Jackman-type of defensive partner would be good for Elliott and let Elliott take his chances.

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What I really loved the most about the game was that it was so family-oriented. I felt like I was at Allstate Arena for a Wolves home game against the Ads. Lots of kids were there and I love that so much. There were like five pre-teen girls sitting behind us who were doing an amazing job at keeping up with the play.


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I got a question for those of you in the know of the norm for the Preds mgmt crew -

Word is that Poile is attending to the Ads game tonight, which has me wondering if this is a standard thingie or possibly tied to trade deadline decision-making? Or both, I guess.

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02-24-2016, 05:05 PM
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I got a question for those of you in the know of the norm for the Preds mgmt crew -

Word is that Poile is attending to the Ads game tonight, which has me wondering if this is a standard thingie or possibly tied to trade deadline decision-making? Or both, I guess.
Well for one, NHL team in Chicago hotel tonight and Milwaukee is just an hour or two away at most. Makes sense to pop in unless he has something better to do.

Not sure if any relation to trade deadline.

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Well for one, NHL team in Chicago hotel tonight and Milwaukee is just an hour or two away at most. Makes sense to pop in unless he has something better to do.

Not sure if any relation to trade deadline.
Gottcha, thanks for the curiosity fix!

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02-24-2016, 10:23 PM
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Admirals lost 6-4 to Rockford tonight. Saros started and gave up 3, Mazanec replaced him and did the same. The worst part is I wouldn't pin a single goal Rockford scored on the goalies tonight. The defense was that bad.

If Poile was there, he saw a great game from Fiala. Couple of great hits after the Ads got down 3-0 in the 1st that seemed to spark the team a little bit. Great stick handling, beautiful passes. He should honestly be with the Preds right now.

Kamenev had a decent game.

Alm got hurt. Could barely put any weight on his leg.

The refs were eager to call anything against the Admirals and nothing against Rockford.

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02-26-2016, 11:02 PM
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Admirals came back from an awful loss on Wednesday and played a damn good game tonight.

Mazanec was spectacular except for the one goal he allowed, although Oligny wasn't helpful on that goal at all. Think of a pylon and that's basically what Oligny was. Mazanec should've stayed in his net but came way out when he didn't need to as Chicago was at a sharp angle and he had help behind him to take away the back door.

Reinhart was fantastic. Hat trick, fast, looked like an NHL player tonight.

One of the worst games I've seen Kamenev play. The only time he wasn't invisible was when he was fumbling the puck or turning it over.

Fiala didn't show up in the score sheet but again had a few nice passes.

Gortz and Sissons both had strong games.

Defense was strong for the most part as well except for Oligny on the goal. Noonan was called back up from Cincinnati as Alm was out as I mentioned in the previous post.

This is the way the Admirals should play. They were flying all over the place on offense today and looked fantastic doing it. Probably had 15 great chances tonight. Was really fun to watch.

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02-26-2016, 11:40 PM
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Admirals came back from an awful loss on Wednesday and played a damn good game tonight.

Mazanec was spectacular except for the one goal he allowed, although Oligny wasn't helpful on that goal at all. Think of a pylon and that's basically what Oligny was. Mazanec should've stayed in his net but came way out when he didn't need to as Chicago was at a sharp angle and he had help behind him to take away the back door.

Reinhart was fantastic. Hat trick, fast, looked like an NHL player tonight.

One of the worst games I've seen Kamenev play. The only time he wasn't invisible was when he was fumbling the puck or turning it over.

Fiala didn't show up in the score sheet but again had a few nice passes.

Gortz and Sissons both had strong games.

Defense was strong for the most part as well except for Oligny on the goal. Noonan was called back up from Cincinnati as Alm was out as I mentioned in the previous post.

This is the way the Admirals should play. They were flying all over the place on offense today and looked fantastic doing it. Probably had 15 great chances tonight. Was really fun to watch.
I agree with just about everything posted. Milwaukee had a boisterous crowd of nearly 10,000 cheering them on tonight. The Admirals probably should have scored 7 or 8 goals. The Wolves were lucky to only give up four, since the puck was laying in the crease at least 3 times and they hit a post.

Chicago was outplayed and out of the game after the first four minutes. The Wolves came out flying with 3 forecheckers, but could not sustain that. The Admirals pushed up the ice like an 18 man bulldozer. The Ads outshot the Wolves by a 2-1 margin for most of the first period. Milwaukee outplayed the Wolves in each period.

I don't know what was up with Kamenev. He would lose the puck in open ice. The puck got underneath him a few times. He looked bewildered at times. The Fiala-Hodgson-Aberg line was the least effective tonight, but they still had 10 or 12 shots on the Chicago goal. It should have been a massacre.

The special guest midget referee didn't do Milwaukee any favors out there tonight. Because the game was so one sided, it really didn't make a difference.

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02-27-2016, 01:41 AM
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I agree with just about everything posted. Milwaukee had a boisterous crowd of nearly 10,000 cheering them on tonight. The Admirals probably should have scored 7 or 8 goals. The Wolves were lucky to only give up four, since the puck was laying in the crease at least 3 times and they hit a post.

Chicago was outplayed and out of the game after the first four minutes. The Wolves came out flying with 3 forecheckers, but could not sustain that. The Admirals pushed up the ice like an 18 man bulldozer. The Ads outshot the Wolves by a 2-1 margin for most of the first period. Milwaukee outplayed the Wolves in each period.

I don't know what was up with Kamenev. He would lose the puck in open ice. The puck got underneath him a few times. He looked bewildered at times. The Fiala-Hodgson-Aberg line was the least effective tonight, but they still had 10 or 12 shots on the Chicago goal. It should have been a massacre.

The special guest midget referee didn't do Milwaukee any favors out there tonight. Because the game was so one sided, it really didn't make a difference.
wait wut? was this really a thing?

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02-27-2016, 09:10 AM
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wait wut? was this really a thing?
I was sitting in the back of section 204 (SE corner) with a group instead of my usual second row seat. That ref looked like he was about 5'5" or 5'6" at best to me.

Ryan Daisy, nicknamed Lurch by my daughter, was one of the linesman. He has to be 6'5" or more. The contrast was comical. I judged the ref's height by the height of the goal as he skated past it. When really skating hard and leaning forward, ref Ryan Hersey's head was barely above the crossbar.

Since this was a rivalry game, two refs should have been working! Chicago, as usual, took advantage by a lot of high hits and cheap shots behind the play.

The WWE is coming to Milwaukee on March 8. The ads during the game made me think of the ref gimmick.

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They need to get to a point where every game has two (competent) referees. I will say though in the games I've been to this year, overall the officiating has been better when there's only one referee. I don't know if they miss calls because they think the other referee saw it and will call it or they're just that bad but games with one referee just seem smoother and more correctly called than two.

Not saying the referee last night was good but there were two referees in Wednesday's game and they were much worse than last night.

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They need to get to a point where every game has two (competent) referees. I will say though in the games I've been to this year, overall the officiating has been better when there's only one referee. I don't know if they miss calls because they think the other referee saw it and will call it or they're just that bad but games with one referee just seem smoother and more correctly called than two.

Not saying the referee last night was good but there were two referees in Wednesday's game and they were much worse than last night.
The refs this season have been better than last season. But last season's refs were terrible, maybe the worst that I have ever seen over an entire year! I have been going to pro minor league hockey games since 1964.

I wasn't at Wednesday night's game and couldn't listen on the radio, so I have no opinion about how that game was officiated.

I will agree with the part that I bolded. I have seen that myself at some Admirals games this season. The trailing ref makes a call that the guy standing 30 feet away looked at and didn't blow the whistle, whether right or wrong.

I would be happy with one competent ref and one guy that is learning how to ref an AHL game. I believe that all divisional games should have 2 refs just to prevent general mayhem out there. It will be rare to have 2 good refs, because the best ones will move on to the NHL.

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In your guys opinions, will max gortz ever be an nhl'er? Or at least one that makes any kind of impact?

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In your guys opinions, will max gortz ever be an nhl'er? Or at least one that makes any kind of impact?
Tough to gauge for us as he's not been called up. Honestly, I don't remember him from camp.

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In your guys opinions, will max gortz ever be an nhl'er? Or at least one that makes any kind of impact?
i could see him as a possibility, but a longshot.

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FWIW. Watched Gatineau play this weekend (Fri night) and Pred D prospect Alexandre Carrier looked very good. Announcing crew was very complimentary. He looked fast, very smooth and very smart. His only down side is that he is a little small - but smarts often fixes that.

Keep an eye on him. He's the kind of guy that the Preds do good things with.

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FWIW. Watched Gatineau play this weekend (Fri night) and Pred D prospect Alexandre Carrier looked very good. Announcing crew was very complimentary. He looked fast, very smooth and very smart. His only down side is that he is a little small - but smarts often fixes that.

Keep an eye on him. He's the kind of guy that the Preds do good things with.
He's, IMO, the Predators top D prospect at this point. Thanks for the report.

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He's, IMO, the Predators top D prospect at this point. Thanks for the report.
what sort of D man is he? puckmover Im guessing due to his size?

potential Ryan Ellis replacement in 4 years?

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what sort of D man is he? puckmover Im guessing due to his size?

potential Ryan Ellis replacement in 4 years?
Ryan Ellis is a good comparison. He's a little taller but not quite as stocky as Ellis. He's not as strong but he's quicker and a better skater.

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FWIW. Watched Gatineau play this weekend (Fri night) and Pred D prospect Alexandre Carrier looked very good. Announcing crew was very complimentary. He looked fast, very smooth and very smart. His only down side is that he is a little small - but smarts often fixes that.

Keep an eye on him. He's the kind of guy that the Preds do good things with.
Thanks for the update. Hope he makes it to NHL, we are usually pretty good at developing players like these. D's take longer time, of course.

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Corey Potter...

*slow clap and eye roll*

So what is the depth in Milwaukee now?

LHD: Nakyva, Alm, Noonan, Dialby, Rissling

RHD: Elliott, Aronson, Mullen, Potter. (With Dougherty, Carrier, Irving possibly comming?)

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Corey Potter...

*slow clap and eye roll*

So what is the depth in Milwaukee now?

LHD: Nakyva, Alm, Noonan, Dialby, Rissling

RHD: Elliott, Aronson, Mullen, Potter. (With Dougherty, Carrier, Irving possibly comming?)
Alm and Mullen are hurt. Diaby and Rissling aren't in Milwaukee.

Last game the pairings were

Oligny-Elliott
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Alm and Mullen are hurt. Diaby and Rissling aren't in Milwaukee.

Last game the pairings were

Oligny-Elliott
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6 RFAs; Nakyva, Elliott, Alm, Mullen, Noonan, Aronson. Who's not coming back?

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Ryan Ellis is a good comparison. He's a little taller but not quite as stocky as Ellis. He's not as strong but he's quicker and a better skater.
Smaller Kris Letang?

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We don't seem to have a thread to discuss the draft, and since I'm too lazy to put any effort into making one, I'll just post this here.

Now that the trade deadline is over and done with and Poile held on to our 1st round pick, who do you think we should pick up?

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