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Oilers waive Kolanos.. picked up again by the Coyotes

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12-24-2005, 12:34 PM
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could be a fun trivia question in years to come ... how many times was Kolanos waivered in his career.
So far he's been waived twice. He's also been claimed twice. Big deal.

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12-24-2005, 12:56 PM
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Well I don't really know why the oil let him go after 6 games - - - - you'd think he'd get at least 20 to get acclimatized.

I'd have to venture that Kolanos wasn't one of the "Boys" on the team that Oilers Brass values so much. He's a bit of a primadoona
cuz MacT with his great thinking, wouldn't let Kolanos play on the 2nd line with Torres and Stoll when Dvorak went down with an injury, instead of Kolanos, MacT put Todd Harvey and George Laraque there.

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12-24-2005, 01:08 PM
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Kolanos was waived because
A. They had too many fourth liners (remember that Winchester was being paid $450K to play in the AHL at that point),
B. No points in six games (you'd hope for at least one),
C. They have an underachieving "offensive" forward in Rita already on the roster,
D. They obtained him for nothing in the first place.
Therefore, it made sense.

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12-24-2005, 07:49 PM
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Could be a Gretzky move to wake him up. May have talked with his old freind Kevin Lowe and asked him to give him a hand, drop the kid and put a scare in him and have Edmonton pick him up. Not really use him and drop him again for Phonix to pick him back up. The money is not bad in the NHL and in most lines of work if you think you are going to be fired for non performance you pick up your pace.

Could be the egg nog talking! But also notice that the moves are between clubs that Gretzky has ties with it.


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The fascinating Kolanos/Lehoux saga...

Kings waive Lehoux
Coyotes claim Lehoux
Coyotes waive Kolanos
Oilers claim Kolanos
Coyotes waive Lehoux
Kings claim Lehoux
Oilers waive Kolanos
Coyotes claim Kolanos

...and all parties are right back to where they started two months ago
thanks! now that is interesting!

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12-25-2005, 02:08 AM
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Could be a Gretzky move to wake him up. May have talked with his old freind Kevin Lowe and asked him to give him a hand, drop the kid and put a scare in him and have Edmonton pick him up. Not really use him and drop him again for Phonix to pick him back up. The money is not bad in the NHL and in most lines of work if you think you are going to be fired for non performance you pick up your pace.

Could be the egg nog talking! But also notice that the moves are between clubs that Gretzky has ties with it.
I don't think that was planned in advance...quite a few other teams had a chance to pick Kolanos up on waivers before the Oilers did.

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12-27-2005, 07:18 AM
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Could be a Gretzky move to wake him up. May have talked with his old freind Kevin Lowe and asked him to give him a hand, drop the kid and put a scare in him and have Edmonton pick him up. Not really use him and drop him again for Phonix to pick him back up. The money is not bad in the NHL and in most lines of work if you think you are going to be fired for non performance you pick up your pace.

Could be the egg nog talking! But also notice that the moves are between clubs that Gretzky has ties with it.
Interesting point. The only problem is that choreographing this sort of thing would be next to impossible and most likely in violation of antitrust laws. All the same, it surprises me that Phoenix was allowed to re-claim Kolanos. This sort of yo-yoing of players seems like something the league and the NHLPA would frown upon, but maybe that's just me.

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12-27-2005, 10:10 AM
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Interesting point. The only problem is that choreographing this sort of thing would be next to impossible and most likely in violation of antitrust laws. All the same, it surprises me that Phoenix was allowed to re-claim Kolanos. This sort of yo-yoing of players seems like something the league and the NHLPA would frown upon, but maybe that's just me.
Really, if Phoenix wasn't allowed to reclaim him and Edmonton got to send Kolanos down to their team, why would anyone ever send a prospect down? Wouldn't teams just keep snagging guys and just keep loading up with any talent they can get their hands on? Isn't the competitive balance on a couple of prospects worth more to the whole integrity of this system?

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12-28-2005, 06:00 PM
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...and Kolanos is now a Hurricane: http://carolinahurricanes.com/news/n...articleid=1423


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The interesing piece from that Hurricanes' story:
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RALEIGH, NC – Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager for the National Hockey League’s Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has acquired center Krys Kolanos (KRIHS koh-LA-nohs) from the Phoenix Coyotes in exchange for right wing Pavel Brendl. Kolanos will be assigned to the Hurricanes’ top minor league affiliate, Lowell of the American Hockey League (AHL).
The question is, how could the Hurricanes send Kolanos down without exposing him to waivers yet again.

The only explanation I can come up with is a clause from the old CBA that likely still holds under the new one.
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13.20. When a Club claims a player on waivers, and, subsequently, in the same season it requests waivers on the same player and the original owning Club is the successful and only Club making a waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled to loan such player to a club in another league within thirty days without further waivers being asked; provided that such player has not participated in ten or more League games (cumulative) and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful claim.
If Phoenix was the only club to put in a waiver claim on Kolanos when the Oilers waived him, they would be able to assign him to the AHL without asking waivers yet again. Phoenix must have assigned him to the AHL before the trade - that would have allowed Carolina to assign him to Lowell without asking waivers again.

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12-29-2005, 02:43 AM
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The interesing piece from that Hurricanes' story:

The question is, how could the Hurricanes send Kolanos down without exposing him to waivers yet again.

The only explanation I can come up with is a clause from the old CBA that likely still holds under the new one.

If Phoenix was the only club to put in a waiver claim on Kolanos when the Oilers waived him, they would be able to assign him to the AHL without asking waivers yet again. Phoenix must have assigned him to the AHL before the trade - that would have allowed Carolina to assign him to Lowell without asking waivers again.
He played a game in San Antonio a few days back, if that helps.

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12-29-2005, 03:41 AM
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The interesing piece from that Hurricanes' story:

The question is, how could the Hurricanes send Kolanos down without exposing him to waivers yet again.

The only explanation I can come up with is a clause from the old CBA that likely still holds under the new one.

If Phoenix was the only club to put in a waiver claim on Kolanos when the Oilers waived him, they would be able to assign him to the AHL without asking waivers yet again. Phoenix must have assigned him to the AHL before the trade - that would have allowed Carolina to assign him to Lowell without asking waivers again.
He wasn't a waiver pickup. He was traded.

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12-29-2005, 10:44 AM
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He wasn't a waiver pickup. He was traded.
Regardless, if he was on Phoenix's roster at the time of the trade, Carolina would have to expose him to waivers before sending him to their minor league team.

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Regardless, if he was on Phoenix's roster at the time of the trade, Carolina would have to expose him to waivers before sending him to their minor league team.
He was never put back on the Coyotes roster after he was re-acquired on waivers. He was assigned directly to San Antonio.

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He was never put back on the Coyotes roster after he was re-acquired on waivers. He was assigned directly to San Antonio.
If Phoenix was able to assign him to San Antonio, after they re-aquired him on waivers, without having him clear waivers (yet again), then the equivalent of Article 13.20 of the old CBA (quoted above), must also be in the new CBA - yet another data point tht the new CBA is pretty damn similar to the old in many regards.

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