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02-23-2016, 09:27 PM
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Info - Roster, Contract, Waivers, NTC's

Habs Roster (46 contracts, 1 can slid Mete)

PlayerCap HitContract EndsWaiversNTC
Addison, Jeremiah720,000 (2 way ELC)2019-20202020-2021N
Alzner, Karl4,625M2021-2022YModified NTC (7 teams no trade)
Audette, Daniel671,667 (2 way ELC)2018-20192019-2020N
Benn, Jordie1.1M2018-2019YN
Bourque, Simon720,000 (2 way ELC)2019-20202020-2021N
Byron, Paul1,166,667M2018-2019YN
Carr, Daniel725K2017-2018YN
Danault, Phillip912K2017-2018YN
Davidson, Brandon1.425M2017-2018YN
de la Rose, Jacob725K2017-2018YN
Drouin, Jonathan5.5M2022-2023YLimited NTC (3 teams no trade) 2021-2023
Eisenschmid, Markus680K (2 way ELC)2017-20182019-2020N
Froese, Byron650K NHL 350K AHL (1st year 2 way)2018-2019YN
Fucale, Zachary894,167K (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019N
Galchenyuk, Alex4.9M2019-2020YN
Gallagher, Brendan3.75M2020-2021YN
Gregoire, Jeremy676,667 (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019N
Hemsky, Ales1M2017-2018YN
Holland, Peter675K NHL 350K AHL (1st year 2 way)2018-2019YN
Hudon, Charles650K (1st year 2 way, 67,500K AHL) 2018-2019YN
Jerabek, Jakub925K (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019N
Juulsen, Noah1,066,667 (2 way ELC)2019-20202020-2021N
Lehkonen, Artturi839,167K (2 way ELC)2018-20192019-2020N
Lernout, Brett821,667K (2 way ELC)2018-20192018-2019N
Lindgren, Charlie(2 way) 700K NHL 115K AHL2017-20182019-2020N
Martinsen, Andreas675K2017-2018YN
McCarron, Michael1,075,833 (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019N
McNiven, Michael683,333 (2 way ELC)2019-20202021-2022N
Mete, Victor748,333 (2 way ELC)2020-20212021-2022N
Mitchell, Torrey1.2M2017-2018YN
Montoya, Al950K (1.065M next 2 years)2018-2019YN
Morrow, Joe650K2017-2018YN
Pacioretty, Max4.5M2018-2019YN
Parisi, Tom717,500K (2 way ELC)2017-20182019-2020N
Petry, Jeff5.5M2020-2021YNMC 2015-2018, Limited NTC 2018-2021 (15 teams no trade)
Plekanec, Tomas6M2017-2018YN
Price, Carey6.5M then 10.5M2025-2026YNMC
Redmond, Zach612,500K2017-2018YN
Reway, Martin706,667 (2 way ELC)2018-20192019-2020N
Scherbak, Nikita1,177,500 (2 way ELC)2018-20192018-2019N
Schlemko, David2,100,0002019-2020YN
Shaw, Andrew3.9M2021-2022YN
Taormina, Matt650K NHL 400K AHL2018-2019YN
Terry, Chris600K2017-2018YN
Waked, Antoine726,667K (2 way ELC)2019-20202020-2021N
Weber, Shea 7,857,143M2025-2026YN


UFA
PlayerCap Hit
Markov, Andrei5.75M


Players Not Under Contract but Habs Own NHL Rights,

Friberg, Max Canadiens keep NHL's rights until June 30, 2020
Nattinen, Joonas Canadiens keep NHL's rights until June 30, 2018

Players Drafted not Signed but Habs Own NHL Rights,

Sullivan, Colin must be signed before August 15, 2017

Bitten, William must be signed before June 1, 2018
Evans, Jake must be signed before August 15, 2018
Pezzetta, Michael must be signed before June 1, 2018

Brook, Josh must be signed before June 1, 2019
Fleury, Cale must be signed before June 1, 2019
Hawkey, Hayden must be signed before August 15, 2019
Koberstein, Nikolas must be signed before August 15, 2019
Tyszka, Jarret must be signed before June 1, 2019
Vejdemo, Lukas must be signed before June 1, 2019
Walford, Scott must be signed before June 1, 2019

Henrikson, Arvid must be signed before June 1, 2020
Poehling, Ryan must be signed before June 1, 2020

Ikonen, Joni must be signed before August 15, 2021
Primeau, Cayden must be signed before August 15, 2021
Staum, Casey must be signed before August 15, 2021


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Erik Nystrom?

Drafted 2012, do we have until June 2016? Was he European?

Russian Players from before the rules that defined a timeline
Four have retired but there is still:

Korneyev, Konstantin - 9th round 2002, no deadline

Am I wrong?

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no, wasn't given his QO, he's a UFA.
In 2013, he was signed to a 25 game PTO contract by Hamilton. When he was released after 17 games, it was stated that the HAbs would retain his rights. DO we not have four years to sign him, and if he was drafted in 2012, that is June 1 2016, no?

Habsprospects still list Maxim Trunev on their site as on the 90 player list. Korneyev is not there anymore, even though he is not retired. Nystrom is not there either, not sure why not.

Maybe the team decided to drop those two even though they didn't have to.


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02-27-2016, 03:02 PM
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Korneyev, Konstantin - 9th round 2002, no deadline

Am I wrong?
I don't think so, I never heard what the official rule has been with the Russians since there's no PTA. In the past before the CBA you held their rights till they became UFA age. But in the end it doesn't matter. He's going to be 32, it's not like he's ever coming over. Trunev is the only one who we still hold the rights to, but he'll be reaching UFA age so if the old rules apply we'll lose his rights. Last I heard the NHL and IIHF were working on a PTA with the Russian Federation, but since it has no impact on the Habs, I haven't kept up with the status. If Trunev comes over to the Habs, I'll apologize to him for never including him in anything related to the Habs.

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So he was signed and then not qualified in a future year?
I was mistaken, he wasn't signed at all, he was given a PTO but then left for the KHL.

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In 2013, he was signed to a 25 game PTO contract by Hamilton. When he was released after 17 games, it was stated that the HAbs would retain his rights. DO we not have four years to sign him, and if he was drafted in 2012, that is June 1 2016, no?
He was drafted under the old CBA when you held their rights for 2 years, it was in the new CBA that they changed it to 4 years.

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He was drafted under the old CBA when you held their rights for 2 years, it was in the new CBA that they changed it to 4 years.
I thought only CHL was two years, NCAA was 4 years ending Aug 15 and Europe was always 4 years ending June 1st.

Was there a nuance for Europe?

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I thought only CHL was two years, NCAA was 4 years ending Aug 15 and Europe was always 4 years ending June 1st.

Was there a nuance for Europe?
no they changed Euro's to 2 years, then in the new CBA they changed it to 4 years.

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added in the new players and updated the cap space to reflect today's moves.
I think Matteau is waiver-exempt through next year (five years after signing at age 18).

If his ELC slid after 2012-13 and 2013-14, why is that, considering he played more than 5 games in the lockout-shortened year?.

On the other hand, I think he hasn't played enough games to lose his standard waiver exemption until age 23.

So:

1. Why didn't 2013 burn a year off his ELC (is it because he played in the AHL only in 2013-14?)

2. Why do you think he is waiver-eligible right now, and even next year too?

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I think Matteau is waiver-exempt through next year (five years after signing at age 18).

If his ELC slid after 2012-13 and 2013-14, it must be because he played some games AFTER his Junior team was eliminated.

But he hasn't played enough games to lose his standard waiver exemption until age 23.

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1. Why didn't 2013 burn a year off his ELC (is it because he played in the AHL only in 2013-14?)

2. Why do you think he is waiver-eligible right now, and even next year too?
1. 2013 did count as a year on his ELC. He signed in 2012-2013, and his ELC ended in 2014-2015, he signed a 2 year deal this past off-season. He played more then 10 games in the NHL in 2012-2013, so what he did after that doesn't matter.

2. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canadiens they don't show him as being waiver exempt

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1. 2013 did count as a year on his ELC. He signed in 2012-2013, and his ELC ended in 2014-2015, he signed a 2 year deal this past off-season. He played more then 10 games in the NHL in 2012-2013, so what he did after that doesn't matter.

2. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canadiens they don't show him as being waiver exempt
Why is he not waiver-exempt? How many years did he have (I thought 5) and there is also a games on roster maximum (which I don't think he hit, but maybe he did somehow??)

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Why is he not waiver-exempt? How many years did he have (I thought 5) and there is also a games on roster maximum (which I don't think he hit, but maybe he did somehow??)
3, he burned them in his first year so no slid.

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3, he burned them in his first year so no slid.
Since he only played 7 games in 2014-15, should that season not count as a 'season'? If so, that wouldn't that only give him 2 seasons, not the 3 required for his age (waiver-wise, that is)?

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Since he only played 7 games in 2014-15, should that season not count as a 'season'? If so, that wouldn't that only give him 2 seasons, not the 3 required for his age (waiver-wise, that is)?
Once he played his 11th NHL game as a 18 y-o, his 5 years exemption was reduced to 3 years. There is no season not counting for waivers if the player remains under NHL contract, regardless of where he plays.

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Once he played his 11th NHL game as a 18 y-o, his 5 years exemption was reduced to 3 years. There is no season not counting for waivers if the player remains under NHL contract, regardless of where he plays.
That makes sense. Thanks.

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Patches should fire his agent!!!


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Patches should fire his agent!!!

He did shortly after signing that deal.

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Could we maybe add a note of which younger players (prospects) will not have to be protected in the expansion draft?

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Could we maybe add a note of which younger players (prospects) will not have to be protected in the expansion draft?
updated to add who needs to be protected and who doesn't.

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updated to add who needs to be protected and who doesn't.
So why are we not sure about Joel Hanley?

Wasn't he a pro before we signed him (albeit AHL contract)?

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So why are we not sure about Joel Hanley?

Wasn't he a pro before we signed him (albeit AHL contract)?
If they would count that pro season (not the first one when he played only 18 games) guess they don't. Doesn't matter much anyway.

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If they would count that pro season (not the first one when he played only 18 games) guess they don't. Doesn't matter much anyway.
It seems that indeed they only count a pro season if the player was on NHL contract. Hanley is exempt.

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2016-2017

Non NHL Roster
PlayerCap HitContract EndsWaiversNTCExpansion Draft
Andrighetto, Sven650K2016-2017YNoneY
Audette, Daniel671,667 (2 way ELC)2018-20192019-2020NoneN
Barberio, Mark750K2017-2018YNoneY
Crisp, Connor800K (2 way ELC)2016-20172017-2018NoneY
de la Rose, Jacob925K (2 way ELC)2016-20172018-2019NoneY
Farnham, Bobby575K (NHL) 375K (AHL)2016-2017YNoneY
Friberg, Max587,500 (2 way)2016-20172016-2017NoneY
Fucale, Zachary894,167K (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019NoneN
Grégoire, Jérémy676,667 (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019NoneN
Hanley, Joel625K (NHL) 85K (AHL)2016-20172017-2018NoneN
Hudon, Charles625K (2 way ELC)2016-20172017-2018NoneY
Johnston, Ryan680K (2 way ELC)2016-20172018-2019NoneN
Lernout, Brett821,667K (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019NoneN
Lindgren, Charlie925K (2 way ELC)2016-20172018-2019NoneN
MacMillan, Mark900K (2 way ELC)2016-20172018-2019NoneN
Matteau, Stefan612,5002016-2017YNoneY
McCarron, Michael1,075,833 (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019NoneN
Parisi, Tom717,500K (2 way ELC)2017-20182019-2020NoneN
Racine, Jonathan660,000K2016-2017YNoneY
Reway, Martin706,667 (2 way ELC)2018-20192019-2020NoneN
Samuelsson, Philip600K (NHL), 125K (AHL)2016-2017YNoneY
Scherbak, Nikita1,177,500 (2 way ELC)2017-20182018-2019NoneN
Thrower, Dalton800K (2 way ELC)2016-20172017-2018NoneY
Terry, Chris575K (NHL) 300K (AHL)2016-2017YNoneY


Non Pros Under Contract,

PlayerCap HitContract EndsWaiversNTCExpansion Draft
Juulsen, Noah1,066,667 (2 way ELC)2019-20202020-2021NoneN
McNiven, Michael683,333 (2 way ELC)2019-20202021-2022NoneN
Jonathan Racine has an AHL salary of $70,000, though he is no longer on his ELC.

Max Friberg waiver status should simply be "Y"

Finally, I think we are at 47 contracts including Sergachev

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Jonathan Racine has an AHL salary of $70,000, though he is no longer on his ELC.

Max Friberg waiver status should simply be "Y"

Finally, I think we are at 47 contracts including Sergachev
yes Racine makes 70K in the AHL, I only listed the ones that make more then the usual 70K.

We are at 46 contracts until Sergachev plays 10 games, as I don't think he's going to stick so once he goes down his contract will slide.

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yes Racine makes 70K in the AHL, I only listed the ones that make more then the usual 70K.

We are at 46 contracts until Sergachev plays 10 games, as I don't think he's going to stick so once he goes down his contract will slide.
The problem is that all the other 2-way contracts either say "2-way" or they show two salaries. By not listing the $70k for Racine, it looks just like a 1-way like Barberio or Matteau. I suggest just putting in the $70k; also IO think Friberg's AHL salary is $90,000

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Updated, Habs at 46 contracts and have 3,503,995 in cap space until they call someone up.

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As of right now, here is the cap we have scheduled to save once certain contracts are up:

I took all of the numbers from Cap Friendly and I also used the current roster, including the recent call-ups still with the NHL club today:

UFAs
Radulov - 5.75M
Markov - 5.75M
Desharnais - 3.5M
Flynn - 950K
Terry - 600K
Farnham - 575K

* Parenteau buyout - 1.33M

The UFAs plus Parenteau's buyout gives the Habs 18.455M in cap space.

If we add the RFAs

Galchenyuk - 2.8M
Beaulieu - 1M
Andrighetto - 650K
Johnston - 680K

All FAs together give Habs 23.585M in cap space for the 2017-18 Season.

We also know someone else's cap hit will come completely off the books at the Expansion Draft, but we don't know who that will be and so we don't know how much more cap space will be added to the 23.585M.

That should give Bergevin enough room to extend the likes of Galchenyuk, Radulov, Markov, and Beaulieu whereas Desharnais, Flynn, Terry, Farnham, Andrighetto, and Johnston can go. Some could even be signed at real cheap.

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