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03-25-2016, 06:22 PM
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I remember meeting some resistance in the pre-season saying he'd be on the roster mid-season over Moses. He may not be producing offense as much as people wish he was, but he's finding other ways to contribute. Which is all you can ask. Rough around the edges as alot of kids are, but he's usually in the right position.

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03-26-2016, 08:10 AM
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If he hads some muscle and focused staying up right when people try to knock him off the puck, he could be a very solid 20/20 player in the near future.

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03-26-2016, 09:33 AM
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He's the fastest guy I've seen in a long, long time. There's a couple of NHL D'men who would agree. He's learning and the goals will come. I think 30/30 player in a year or two.
I don't see it. Arvidsson is a faster Craig Smith. Actually, to his credit, he does have more creativity than Smith, but he has the same straight-forward release, get-my-goals through hustle skillset. He doesn't have the nasty release and soft hands of a 30-goal scorer, which is what Neal, Forsberg & Johansen have in common.

I could certainly see him being a 20+ guy.

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05-09-2016, 10:42 PM
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I love his speed and aggressiveness, but man he seems ineffective. Basically skating around like a psychopath, smashing himself into the boards, getting drilled, gets easily knocked off the puck, and cannot finish for the life of him. I can't see him breaking the 10-goal plateau...

Edit: Yes!!!!


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05-09-2016, 10:58 PM
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As high as that roofed backhander.

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05-09-2016, 11:00 PM
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unbelievable timing for this thread to resurface

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I love his speed and aggressiveness, but man he seems ineffective. Basically skating around like a psychopath, smashing himself into the boards, getting drilled, gets easily knocked off the puck, and cannot finish for the life of him. I can't see him breaking the 10-goal plateau...

Edit: Yes!!!!
Yeah..?

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05-09-2016, 11:11 PM
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05-10-2016, 05:32 AM
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I love his speed and aggressiveness, but man he seems ineffective. Basically skating around like a psychopath, smashing himself into the boards, getting drilled, gets easily knocked off the puck, and cannot finish for the life of him. I can't see him breaking the 10-goal plateau...

Edit: Yes!!!!
10 as timely as this goal ... i'll take him at any time.

Beyond this, i agree with you ... a lot of energy ... in the NHL the space is simply too small to allow for such a guy to score. And this is even highlighted in late playoff rounds when players are out of energy. He looks like a blitz.
In Switzerland we have such a player ... even a bit smaller ... but it is European ice (bigger rinks), it is Switzerland (still hockey but on the softer side ... more about speed).

it will be interesting to see how he develops and how the NHL develops ... because some years ago you had goons all over the place. Now they have disapeared. Thoughness remains but way less . Concussions ... hits to the heads ... all these are changes that favor such a player. So maybe he is 5 to 10 years to early ... or just on time ... who knows ?

the yard stick to see how he performs will be the points he scores or assists in regular season.

Actually as a playoff strategy, having the 13 forward player like him is a type of joker for the end of game. Specially if you don't have crazy depth. You can save space for a guy like that ... and it worked ... Well done Lavy !

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05-10-2016, 07:11 AM
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If he is 5 years to early, that will have the league catching up with him in his prime....

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His ceiling is playoff hero.

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05-23-2016, 11:57 AM
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10 goals- 15 assist kind of guy. 4 line plug that can play 3rd line minutes incase of a injury
I think that's premature. If he builds up some leg strength and not fall 8 times a shift, he's got the speed and shot to be a 2nd liner, potentially. I don't think Arvy's useless, at all; nor has he reached his full potential, IMO.

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05-23-2016, 12:03 PM
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Best case scenario on is best season he will be on the 2nd line. But with a deep line up and expectations i see him more of a bottom 6 guy. Cant see a contender having him playing 2line role
And this is based on what, a European skater's rookie year? I get the paranoia but if he can find a niche on a second line he could be quite useful; given that there is balance in our other lines.

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05-23-2016, 12:09 PM
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Base off your expectations. Lets face it hes not a big kid. I think im just being realist about is development and ceiling
Care to provide any more insight than that? I think we could have a productive discussion but you're not giving me much detail.

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05-23-2016, 12:12 PM
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I was very hopefull pre-season about him, and caught flack when I said he would make the team before Fiala. Now that he has a season under him I still have a little hope. But im not expecting him to come into camp having gianed weight and gotten muscular. The thing that holds him back now is between his ears. He has skills that can keep him in the league but he has not yet adjusted to playing at this level as a small guy. He is mauled just as Jarnkrok is. Unless he finds a way to play his game and avoid being man handled he will be in the AHL or back to Europe after next year. The sad thing is he can finish which is a solid improvement over Smith and Wilson but he just gets murdered when hes not on the perimeter.

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05-23-2016, 12:20 PM
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Send advisson in a corner with a milan lucic or a landoskog and tell me who will comemout of the corner with the puck. We play in the big bad west. Imo size is a factor especially if your playing bottom 6 minutes. I know Advi as a motor that never stops but that only goes so far. Honestly i see him as a gabriel bourque 2.0
There are always exceptions. Steve Sullivan, Zuchirillo(sp) even Tyler Ennis. There is a place for small guys to excel but they have to find a way. But go into a corner like you say in the West or the central in particular hes not gonna win those battles.

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05-23-2016, 12:23 PM
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Patrick Kane is 5"10 180 lbs. He just tore the west up....

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05-23-2016, 01:08 PM
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Those are top 6 forwards tho
Well IMO Arviddson has the hands and finish to be a top 6 guy. But unless he learns the limitations of his size we will never know.

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05-24-2016, 12:30 AM
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Cam atkinson?

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05-24-2016, 07:28 AM
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Cam atkinson?
That's certainly what I'm hoping.

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05-24-2016, 08:40 AM
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Patrick Kane is 5"10 180 lbs. He just tore the west up....
You compare him to Patrick Kane? Give me a break.

I love Arvy's hustle. He's a crowd pleaser, a great story.

But, let's get real. He's a 3rd line energy guy who can score a bit.

In spite of scoring the game 6 goal, I saw him get swallowed up most of the time in the San Jose series. As cute a story as he is, and loving his grit and hustle, there is a limit and he's not one of those special guys like Kane or Sullivan to overcome it, IMO.

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05-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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He has some good hands and is always hustling, but he needs to put on muscle and he's weak on his skates. Could be a 2nd line tweener one day, but he's also just as likely to go the way of a Halischuk, speaking of one time playoff heroes.

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I like the Cam Atkinson comparison. Not sure if he'll have the twenty goal consistency of Atkinson but they have comparable hustle.

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i agree w/ the Atkinson comparable. I think Arvidsson could be a 15-20 guy but would think more around 10-15. At his size, I'd take it, because like others have said he finds himself in the right place at the right time and hustles hard.

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05-25-2016, 07:59 AM
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You compare him to Patrick Kane? Give me a break.

I love Arvy's hustle. He's a crowd pleaser, a great story.

But, let's get real. He's a 3rd line energy guy who can score a bit.

In spite of scoring the game 6 goal, I saw him get swallowed up most of the time in the San Jose series. As cute a story as he is, and loving his grit and hustle, there is a limit and he's not one of those special guys like Kane or Sullivan to overcome it, IMO.
I compared their size, did I say he was as skilled? So you tell me is their size not comparable?

Here let me make this easier.

Viktor Arvidsson is 5'9" and 180 lbs.
Patrick Kane is 5'10 and 180 lbs.

My response was for those saying at his size it would be hard to produce in the west, especially in the mighty central.


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