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12-24-2005, 04:11 PM
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Paille

Am I the only one, or does he have a really similar playing style to Jochen Hecht? I've been so impressed with the 2 games from him so far. He's impossible to knock off the puck, skates with a smooth deceptive stride, and looks to have a knack to put the pass in the right spot at the right time. He's got a way to go to reach Hecht's level, but I think I've seriously underrated him before.

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Am I the only one, or does he have a really similar playing style to Jochen Hecht? I've been so impressed with the 2 games from him so far. He's impossible to knock off the puck, skates with a smooth deceptive stride, and looks to have a knack to put the pass in the right spot at the right time. He's got a way to go to reach Hecht's level, but I think I've seriously underrated him before.
Wait until you see him blow someone up on a bodycheck....

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Wait until you see him blow someone up on a bodycheck....
Oh I have...I thought he was just sort of a defensive specialist kind of player with little offensive upside ala Adam Mair. My eyes have definitely been opened to his all-around game, and I'd support him staying up here for quite some time.

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12-24-2005, 06:17 PM
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I've always looked at Roy/Paille as the future Draper/Maltby. They were Canadian Captains as juniors and character players that you "need" on a winning team.

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12-24-2005, 06:51 PM
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One of the best things about DP in his two games has been his skating. He always has his head up, always fills the defensive lanes all the way on the back check, and always is stride for stride with his man defensively. These are the little things that we take for granted that don't always get accomplished by rookies in their first games. The gap between he and a guy like Thorburn was really obvious by watching the two adjust to the NHL in their first two games. Both were nervous and a little tentative out of the box, and both were impactful in their second games. However, I think Paille was much better all the way around, and just played at a more comfortable level than Thorbs did.

Anything offensive is a bonus at this point, but he was ready in camp, and hopefully he gets more time to show his goods wearing that despicable goat crest. Man, I hate that thing.

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12-25-2005, 09:40 AM
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Paille Gaustad Thorburn was an excellent 3rd (energy) line last season, hope to see them together again

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Hey, I thought DP has looked solid from game 1. He's a Buffalo type player without a doubt.

This really has to open some eyes around the league IMO. We're atop the entire eastern conference sans Ottawa, and we've been doing it with a core of rookie forwards. On top of playing the rooks, we've been without Danny Briere and JPD for a while now.

Still sittin' pretty in the standings. Still using our farm system. Still churnin' out NHL-ready talent.

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12-26-2005, 11:24 AM
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The emergence of these young players couldn't come at a better time due to the salary cap, the lowered age of unrestricted free agency, and the Sabres need to sign their core players long-term. A reliable stream of "cheap" young talent, some of which will become core players, will prove essential to teams like the Sabres being able to afford to re-sign their top players and stay within their budget.

Looking ahead to next year, it seems very likely that Grier (UFA) and Dumont ($1.6 million) will find their places taken by Paille and Pominville to free up more money to sign guys like Briere, Lydman, McKee and Kotalik long-term. Biron is likely to be dealt in the offseason as well, and hopefully the Sabres will use the draft picks they receive well to keep the process continuing.

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Was Paille the guy at the beginning of Training Camp this season, that the rest of the vets hated playing against because he was throwing thunderous body checks? I remember an article like that but wasn't sure if it was referring to Paille. Anyway, its nice to see this kid skate and fill in where needed.

LETS GO BUFFALO!!

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12-26-2005, 05:57 PM
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Was Paille the guy at the beginning of Training Camp this season, that the rest of the vets hated playing against because he was throwing thunderous body checks? I remember an article like that but wasn't sure if it was referring to Paille. Anyway, its nice to see this kid skate and fill in where needed.

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I think that may have been Mancari.

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12-26-2005, 06:00 PM
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I think that may have been Mancari.
or Kaleta

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It was Kaleta. He lit up Tallinder, Fitzy, John Adams, and a few others. Mancari checked well, but Kaleta was executing some open ice bombs that got the White team pumped up during his brief stay in camp.

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I think Paille was voted best body checker, or something like that, in the OHL in 2003-04 and Kaleta was voted #2.

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I think Paille was voted best body checker, or something like that, in the OHL in 2003-04 and Kaleta was voted #2.
Yup, Kaleta was #2 in the Eastern Conference for both the Best Body Checker and Hardest Worker categories. Paille was tops in the Western Conference for Hardest Worker, Best Body Checker, and Best Defensive Forward.

Kaleta was #3 in the Hardest Worker and #1 in the Best Body Checker in the 2004-05 poll.

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12-27-2005, 12:33 AM
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Great news for us if Kaleta keeps on banging away. A guy like that getting a shot could be awesome!

Thanks for straightening that out.

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12-27-2005, 07:21 AM
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It was Kaleta. He lit up Tallinder, Fitzy, John Adams, and a few others. Mancari checked well, but Kaleta was executing some open ice bombs that got the White team pumped up during his brief stay in camp.
Mancari blew up Kalinin and a couple of the other NHL calibre defensemen too. I still think it was Tri's attempt to get one back on him where he got knocked head-over-heels that tweaked his groin and sent him on the downward spiral....

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I find it so strange that Regier started out his career drafting guys like Dumont, Connolly and Pyatt, who have all been accused at one point or another of lacking heart and not working hard enough, but now, he has shifted to guys like Kaleta, Gaustad and Paille.

I'm sure it has a lot to do with scouting, but it seems like quite a turn-around.


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^^ Regier didn't draft either of those three.

Dumont was #3 overall by CHI in (I think) 96, and came over in the Grosek for Gilmour + Dumont trade.

Connolly and Pyatt were drafted (again another guess) #5 and #8 overall in 99 by the Isles, and came over in the Peca deal.

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^^ Regier didn't draft either of those three.

Dumont was #3 overall by CHI in (I think) 96, and came over in the Grosek for Gilmour + Dumont trade.

Connolly and Pyatt were drafted (again another guess) #5 and #8 overall in 99 by the Isles, and came over in the Peca deal.
J.P. was actually drafted by NYI, and then traded to CHI when Regier was a member of the Isles front office. Same deal with Pyatt and Connolly - drafted by NYI perhaps as fruits of Regier's scouting efforts?


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^^ Regier didn't draft either of those three.

Dumont was #3 overall by CHI in (I think) 96, and came over in the Grosek for Gilmour + Dumont trade.

Connolly and Pyatt were drafted (again another guess) #5 and #8 overall in 99 by the Isles, and came over in the Peca deal.
Dumont #3 overall by isles in '96
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...id%5B%5D=20200

Connolly and Pyatt, #5 anf 8 respectively in '99
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1999e.html

Regier was with the Isles front office for the Dumont draft, but also probably had his hand in scouting of Connolly and Pyatt for the '99 draft.

So I wasn't entirely accurate.

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Regier was with the Isles front office for the Dumont draft, but also probably had his hand in scouting of Connolly and Pyatt for the '99 draft.

So I wasn't entirely accurate.
Sabres.com has this being Darcy's 9th year in Buffalo.

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Sabres.com has this being Darcy's 9th year in Buffalo.
Right, he was hired in June 1997, shortly before the draft. I doubt if he had anything to do with the Islanders 1999 draft.

Here's some interesting tidbits regarding the Milbury/Regier relationship when Darcy was with the Islanders.

On the decision to fire Regier - he was informed in Dec 1996
http://isles-list.com/index.cfm?acti...&articleid=359
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"Truth be told," Milbury said, "I made this decision a while ago and I thought it was appropriate to wait through the holidays
and make it known to him."
On drafting JP Dumont:
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Club sources said Milbury overruled Regier in at least two
instances: the drafting of first-rounder J.P. Dumont instead of
Alexandre Volchkov and the trading of Darius Kasparaitis.

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So I stand corrected.

Well, he still pursued softer "skill" type players early in his career and post-99 sought character-type players who have a physical edge.

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Club sources said Milbury overruled Regier in at least two
instances: the drafting of first-rounder J.P. Dumont instead of
Alexandre Volchkov and the trading of Darius Kasparaitis.
Yikes!

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