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04-11-2016, 05:17 PM
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Nice! Expected, but good to see.

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Any details on the bonus yet? What's the over/under on it?

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Not sure how you would know that Gary's training would be overrated, unless you have attended it?
Well, there is some stuff that we know is snake oil and broscience that he employs, like the genetically designed food regiments.

So, in that aspect, you can 100% say he's overrated in that not everything he provides that he says is BS.

And then there is this stigma of people who feel that those going to other places are not considered working as hard, like Trouba who trained with Wheeler last summer... I guess Wheeler didn't train as hard since he did the same regiment as Trouba, who some here said wasn't training hard.

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04-11-2016, 06:36 PM
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Connor is an exceptional triggerman and excels at getting open and utilizing space. He doesn't need the puck on his stick to be effective. That speaks volumes for our special teams.
I see everyone putting Connor on the second or third line but consider this. To be really effective, Connor needs to play with speedy skilled forwards who can find the open man & set him up.

Line of the future IMO is Ehlers-Scheif-Connor. Doubt they get there next season, but in time I see Wheels ending up back with Little, and Connor on the first line with the best speedy puck distributors we have.

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04-11-2016, 06:40 PM
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Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
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Whoa whoa whoa that'll never happen.






Connor plays LW.

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I see everyone putting Connor on the second or third line but consider this. To be really effective, Connor needs to play with speedy skilled forwards who can find the open man & set him up.

Line of the future IMO is Ehlers-Scheif-Connor. Doubt they get there next season, but in time I see Wheels ending up back with Little, and Connor on the first line with the best speedy puck distributors we have.
I'm not sure Connor even starts the year with the Jets. I would much rather him get top 6 minutes with the Moose than bottom 6 minutes with the Jets. We have plenty of young prospects who can play a bottom six role on the Jets as was just shown in the last 10 to 15 games. Unless Connor clearly shows he belongs on the big club, I have no problem with him spending a year on the Moose.

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04-11-2016, 06:50 PM
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I'm not sure Connor even starts the year with the Jets. I would much rather him get top 6 minutes with the Moose than bottom 6 minutes with the Jets. We have plenty of young prospects who can play a bottom six role on the Jets as was just shown in the last 10 to 15 games. Unless Connor clearly shows he belongs on the big club, I have no problem with him spending a year on the Moose.
Not this again. We heard this about ehlers and scheif. He's ready! He will start off slowly most likely but is nhl ready.

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04-11-2016, 07:02 PM
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Great news. Timing takes some of the sting out of this season.

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Not sure how you would know that Gary's training would be overrated, unless you have attended it?
You're misreading my post. I never said there's anything wrong with his training. I said it's overrated in the sense that people pretend it's the ultimate off-season training a player could do. There's a lot of hype for it on these forums. The reality is there's likely tons of qualified trainers and we shouldn't necessarily be disappointed just because we don't hear about a specific player going to Gary Roberts' program. I was replying to someone who said pointblank that Gary Roberts is overrated.

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04-11-2016, 07:20 PM
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A welcome nice bit of news after a rough week....I have no problem him starting with the Moose a la Petan...he'll be up soon enough.

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Well, there is some stuff that we know is snake oil and broscience that he employs, like the genetically designed food regiments.

So, in that aspect, you can 100% say he's overrated in that not everything he provides that he says is BS.

And then there is this stigma of people who feel that those going to other places are not considered working as hard, like Trouba who trained with Wheeler last summer... I guess Wheeler didn't train as hard since he did the same regiment as Trouba, who some here said wasn't training hard.
Well, we do know that Roberts and Oates have ruined Scheifele.

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Well, there is some stuff that we know is snake oil and broscience that he employs, like the genetically designed food regiments.

So, in that aspect, you can 100% say he's overrated in that not everything he provides that he says is BS.

And then there is this stigma of people who feel that those going to other places are not considered working as hard, like Trouba who trained with Wheeler last summer... I guess Wheeler didn't train as hard since he did the same regiment as Trouba, who some here said wasn't training hard.
Sounds like a lot of drama: he trained here, he trained there accusations going on.lol

I think most view Scheifele as a very hard working player, dedicated to getting better every off season; along with his continuous yearly improvements, and since he has been consistently visiting Roberts camp, there is an association being made that the camp works.

Was there rumors Trouba went one year to Roberts camp, and didn't put much into it, never to return?

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04-11-2016, 07:28 PM
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You're misreading my post. I never said there's anything wrong with his training. I said it's overrated in the sense that people pretend it's the ultimate off-season training a player could do. There's a lot of hype for it on these forums. The reality is there's likely tons of qualified trainers and we shouldn't necessarily be disappointed just because we don't hear about a specific player going to Gary Roberts' program. I was replying to someone who said pointblank that Gary Roberts is overrated.
My apologies, and I agree, there are many highly qualified sources available to players for off season training, but with all of them, it comes down to how much the individual is willing to put into it.

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Not this again. We heard this about ehlers and scheif. He's ready! He will start off slowly most likely but is nhl ready.
Hope so but I wouldn't use Schief as the best example of jumping into the NHL after their D +1 year.

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04-11-2016, 07:48 PM
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Super news. Not that he's on the same level, but here's hoping the Poolman is next
You just want to have the Poolman around before the Pulj Pjarti.

Glad this is done. Needed some good news.

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Hope so but I wouldn't use Schief as the best example of jumping into the NHL after their D +1 year.
My point was when both were ready to be everyday nhl ers, people wanted them in ahl, or why are they struggling? Connor is ready.

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I'm not sure Connor even starts the year with the Jets. I would much rather him get top 6 minutes with the Moose than bottom 6 minutes with the Jets. We have plenty of young prospects who can play a bottom six role on the Jets as was just shown in the last 10 to 15 games. Unless Connor clearly shows he belongs on the big club, I have no problem with him spending a year on the Moose.
He'll play 3rd line and PP, 16-17 min/gm. Of course on the Moose he will get BIG min, 18-19 min/gm.

NHL minutes are worth more than AHL minutes. It is possible that he starts on the Moose but it wouldn't be for long, or starts on the Jets but goes down for a while a la Petan but either would be a surprise. He may or may not progress as quickly as Ehlers did but he won't have a period of playing with Thor either.

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Great news. Timing takes some of the sting out of this season.

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The talent is salivating but it also looks like a roster that can get pushed around in those heavy games down the stretch. It would be nice to acquire a big, skilled alpha that can absorb and prevent some of the punishment. I'd much rather see Lowry slot in 3C than Burmi

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My apologies, and I agree, there are many highly qualified sources available to players for off season training, but with all of them, it comes down to how much the individual is willing to put into it.
The bolded. Roberts works for Scheifele because Scheifele works for Roberts. Credit Scheifele.

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let's go back to my place bouncy bouncy!!
Ah yes... my nipples explode with excitement.

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My point was when both were ready to be everyday nhl ers, people wanted them in ahl, or why are they struggling? Connor is ready.
Let's wait and see at TC and during NHL action. If he plays so well that the Jets have no choice but to keep him in the NHL then great. I just don't want a repeat of the Petan situation. I'm just trying to keep an open mind to all possibilities.

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Let's wait and see at TC and during NHL action. If he plays so well that the Jets have no choice but to keep him in the NHL then great. I just don't want a repeat of the Petan situation. I'm just trying to keep an open mind to all possibilities.
Petan did need seasoning but let's hope Connor doesn't start the year on the fourth line like petan did. Connor Lowry Thor
That'll ruin a guy to start

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it's not the same situation as petan at all - before he signed today, connor was still eligible to play in the ncaa - this year, there was no way petan was going back to the whl

connor would not have left the ncaa if he wasn't ready (for the nhl) - i remember berenson having a quote a while back saying that if connor wasn't going to be playing in a top 6 role in the nhl it would be better for him to be in the ncaa - the jets just happen to have an opening at lw in the top 6 after trading ladd -

and when the jets were pitching connor to leave the ncaa to sign a contract with the team - do you think the selling point was - sign with us and play lots of big minutes on the manitoba moose - doubtful

the only reason connor is coming is because he's ready - we'll see how he does, but i think he'll be better than ehlers - connor certainly adds a skill set this team does not currently possess without him - cheers and go jets go
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Let's wait and see at TC and during NHL action. If he plays so well that the Jets have no choice but to keep him in the NHL then great. I just don't want a repeat of the Petan situation. I'm just trying to keep an open mind to all possibilities.

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I think I would have Perreault centering Little and Connor, as our second line next season, if he is ready.

Or we luck out, get the 2nd pick in the draft, making our 1B line:
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He is going to need a solid half season like Ehlers did, to figure things out, maybe longer, our expectations need to realistic.

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