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12-30-2005, 09:20 AM
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Leafs/Avs Proposal

TO COL: Ed Belfour (UFA at season's end - club option for one more year) + Nik Antropov + Bell/Harrison

TO TOR: David Aebisher + Ossi Vaananen

Avs get a proven goalie for their post season run on a team that has Sakic and Blake possibly for the last season.

Leafs get a quality younger goalie to split duties with Tellvqist and a good defensive defenceman.

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12-30-2005, 09:44 AM
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No thanks, two expensive injury risks, Belfour's never been popular in town as far back as NoDak, trading Vaananen opens up a hole on D.

With Aebi's devaluation I doubt TO would have any interest in him.

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Belfour has no trade value none at all, you do not think every GM has watched him crap out this year. There are backups right now (including ours) I would play over him

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12-30-2005, 10:23 AM
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eddie is a great goalie i wouldnt trade him

on a few nights he showed rust and other nights toronto just left him to defend the fort by himself

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12-30-2005, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SFD22
TO COL: Ed Belfour (UFA at season's end - club option for one more year) + Nik Antropov + Bell/Harrison

TO TOR: David Aebisher + Ossi Vaananen

Avs get a proven goalie for their post season run on a team that has Sakic and Blake possibly for the last season.

Leafs get a quality younger goalie to split duties with Tellvqist and a good defensive defenceman.

It might be close to fair if you added a 3rd rounder from Toronto and took Ossi V. out of the deal.

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12-30-2005, 11:38 AM
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It might be close to fair if you added a 3rd rounder from Toronto and took Ossi V. out of the deal.


Sorry, words fail me.

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if the wheelchair come's in the deal with belfour i'll think about it.

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Sorry, words fail me.
Yeah, me to. And probably GMs interested in Belfour when someone reminds them of his contract.

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if the wheelchair come's in the deal with belfour i'll think about it.
We'd need a straitjacket for Eddie as well.

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Sorry, words fail me.
Why should today be different from every other day? This problem you have
communicating seems to be an ongoing issue.

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How long is Aebisher's contract? If Belfour is an impending UFA and Aebischer is not, and the Avs think Budaj is ready, then this might make sense a little later in the season (after Toronto has paid a bunch of Belfour's contract off). That way, Toronto gets a #1 goalie for next season, and the Avs unload a contract they don't want. A deal like so:

Belfour, Antropov, + 3rd rounder for Aebisher seems fair. That would essentially be equal to Antropov and a 3rd for Aebisher.


(P.S. Don't get mad at me Av fans, I'm just throwing it out)


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12-30-2005, 03:27 PM
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Abby and Vaananen are RFA's at season's end.

Belfour (4.6) Antropov (1) and dman (450k)

Abby (1.9) Vaananen (900k)

Even at the deadline thats 1.5 coming in and 700k leaving. half of the Avs available cap room as it stands now.

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Aebischer will be a RFA after this season if offered a qualifying contract.

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12-30-2005, 04:11 PM
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Abby and Vaananen are RFA's at season's end.

Belfour (4.6) Antropov (1) and dman (450k)

Abby (1.9) Vaananen (900k)

Even at the deadline thats 1.5 coming in and 700k leaving. half of the Avs available cap room as it stands now.
Its actually even worse than I suggested, because I don't think the Avs should include Ossi V (whose value alone exceeds the entire Leaf proposal).

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12-30-2005, 09:15 PM
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I can't see Colorado doing this.

Belfour to Aebischer is pretty much an even swap based on their play at this point, and Aebischer both younger and cheaper.
Even if you believe Belfour will regain seomthing of his old form I can't see him being a huge upgrade over Aebischer.

Antropov... a depth forward, and UFA to be. An adequate enough 3rd liner, but there are many many players like him. Bell/Harrison.... low caliber prospect unlikely to be more then a 2nd pairing AHL'er.
Neither carry at real value at all.

Ossi Vaannen... a solid young defensive D-Man. A bit overrated IMHO, but still a more valuable player then Antropov at this point.


As far as I can see Colorado takes back more in salary, takes an immediate hit on defence and an incremental gain on forward with no real difference in goal.
Long term they lose out on defence and gain nothing of worth at all.

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Why do the Leafs do this?

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if the avalanche trade for belfour then im rooting for the canucks from that day forward

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