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10-18-2003, 06:35 AM
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GDT: Washington @ St. Louis

<a href="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/Sports/Blues/8CCBE70ACFA4DAA586256DC30014E33D?OpenDocument&Head line=Blues+shake+up+lines+in+search+for+scoring" rel="nofollow" target=_blank>STL Post-Dispatch: Blues shake up lines in search for scoring</a>
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I looked on the Washington Posts' site for a story related to the game, but didn't find one.

Here are the new Blues' lines:
Tkachuk Cajanek Demitra
Sejan Weight Rycroft
Drake Mayers Heerema
Danton R. Johnson Low

The Blues' defenseman playing tonight will be:
Pronger
Jackman
Baron
Finley
Backman
Brismanis

As far as I know, Ogood will be starting. Things could be ugly with the Blues having to dress their 10th and 11th dmen on the depth chart because of injuries to 5 defensemen (3 of which are in the top 5). Good thing the Caps played last night...

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10-18-2003, 06:41 AM
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Pronger and Jackman could both see 30 minutes of icetime, depending on the game.

I'd hate to see Jagr out there against some of those d-man.

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10-18-2003, 06:42 AM
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Pronger and Jackman could both see 30 minutes of icetime, depending on the game.
I don't think there's any question about that... though, Baron will surely get a number of minutes because of Q's obsession with playing mediocre vets. Pronger will get Mac's PP time and Jackman will get Prongs' PP time.

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:: shudders ::

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10-18-2003, 07:31 AM
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Somehow, I wouldn't worry about Jagr. It looked like he was in a shouting match with Butch Cassidy, the Caps' coach, on the bench last night in Dallas.

Things are not so well with the Caps. If I had to guess, I'd say the Blues win by 3, unfortunately (if you're a suffering Caps' fan, like me).

Drag about MacInnis, btw. I like watching him play. Hope he recovers soon.

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Who's Rycroft?

Anyhow, Jagr is in a major funk right now, he was completely invisable vs the Stars and even got benched.

Watch for Zubrus and Lang though, they seem to make the most noise.

Easy Blues win here, Caps play unmotivated *again* and will look tired for most of the game. Blues have learned how to deal with core players going down as well.

Blues 5 - 1 Caps

Tkachuk and Mellanby with a huge game.. Caps record below 20 shots.

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I dunno, I didn't think the Cap's played that badly last night, outside of Jagr and Kolzig (admittedly, two HUGE pieces of the team). They out-shot Dallas by a few.

Agreed on Lang and Zubrus, they've been the only consistent O the Caps have been able to generate.

Nice play by Ott to draw the penalty on Gonchar, as well.

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Pronger and Jackman could both see 30 minutes of icetime, depending on the game.

I'd hate to see Jagr out there against some of those d-man.

You don't have to worry--Jagr probably won't get more than 16 or 17 minutes tonight.

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Nice play by Ott to draw the penalty on Gonchar, as well.
Heh.. Ott is so fun to watch if he's on your side.. he registered his 3rd fight of the season as well if I'm not mistaken.

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Who's Rycroft?

Anyhow, Jagr is in a major funk right now, he was completely invisable vs the Stars and even got benched.

Watch for Zubrus and Lang though, they seem to make the most noise.

Easy Blues win here, Caps play unmotivated *again* and will look tired for most of the game. Blues have learned how to deal with core players going down as well.

Blues 5 - 1 Caps

Tkachuk and Mellanby with a huge game.. Caps record below 20 shots.

Mark Rycroft is a was a pretty highly rated Blues prospect a couple years ago but after a short stint w/ the Blues in early 01-02 he's game dropped dramatically. I thought he was done for, but he had an amazing camp and played himself onto the team. He really isn't scoring line player but has done okay w/ Demitra and Tkachuk in the 1st three games.

FYI.. Mellanby is injured right now.

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I dunno, I didn't think the Cap's played that badly last night, outside of Jagr and Kolzig (admittedly, two HUGE pieces of the team). They out-shot Dallas by a few.

Agreed on Lang and Zubrus, they've been the only consistent O the Caps have been able to generate.

Nice play by Ott to draw the penalty on Gonchar, as well.
Jagr is apparantly fueding with Cassidy over his ice time or his effort or something. My guess is that it has more to do with Cassidy putting is position as "go to guy" up for grabs the player/players that are delivering . Right now its not Jagr. Jagr is not used to having to prove himself.
Kolzig historically can be rusty after a layoff. Between not playing on Tuesday and the team not playing again til Friday he had a long stretch between games. I don't think Kolzig will be weak tonight.
Lang is hitting on all cylinders and is taking the opening that Cassidy and Jagr have given him. Zubrus has been effective in opening up space on the ice for Lang, but has not closed the deal for a goal yet. Both Grier and Semin have played the other spot on that line and have looked great.
Lang is not the only consistant source of offense for the Caps as Bondra has been on his game all season. He is clearly held down 5 on 5 by playing with Halpern and Konowalchuk on the checking line. He is getting chances and has been a dominant force on the power play and had another 3 quality shots last night. I have to wonder how much longer Cassidy will go with this Bondra on the checking line. Halpern and Kono have played much better with Grier than not. Semin seems to be playing well with Lang. That opens up an interesting opportunity. Jagr apparantly doesn't want to play with Bondra. But with Jagr yapping at the coach, I see an opportunity to put Bondra on the ice with Jagr and force Jagr's hand. Either he keeps up with the energetic Bondra and Gordon and his play improves or he doesn't and Bondra makes him look bad.

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Blues 5 - 1 Caps

Tkachuk and Mellanby with a huge game.. Caps record below 20 shots.
Pretty good prediction... Blues should have had the 5th goal a number of times. Caps only had 14 (I think) SOG's. Tkachuk was a monster.

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Pretty good prediction... Blues should have had the 5th goal a number of times. Caps only had 14 (I think) SOG's. Tkachuk was a monster.
Keith is strong on his skates, so hard to contain. I could see Tkachuk scoring 50 this season rather easily and take the Richards. He looks really focused and I feel that when Tkachuk is on, he's the league's top powerforward, above Todd Bertuzzi and far above Bill Guerin. Too bad people claim him to be overrated judging on his paycheck while ignoring his actual game.

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Who's Rycroft?

Anyhow, Jagr is in a major funk right now, he was completely invisable vs the Stars and even got benched.

Watch for Zubrus and Lang though, they seem to make the most noise.

Easy Blues win here, Caps play unmotivated *again* and will look tired for most of the game. Blues have learned how to deal with core players going down as well.

Blues 5 - 1 Caps

Tkachuk and Mellanby with a huge game.. Caps record below 20 shots.
You hit the nail on the head dude, the caps looked pretty bad.Mellanby is out with cracked ribs though.

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Credit where it's due. M=G was dead-on in his predictions.

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How did Sejna look in this game...?

I see he got two points...is he finding his way...or were they just lucky PP points...?

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If I were to confirm that he is "finding his way", I'd be implying that he wasn't playing well in the first 3 games of the season. That is not the case. The entire offense the first three games was not clicking and it was no fault of Sejna's.

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How did Sejna look in this game...?

I see he got two points...is he finding his way...or were they just lucky PP points...?
The guy is everywhere, and puts in a solid effort every night. He is always in the mix, its just a matter of time before things bounce his way. That first goal will be all it takes.

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If I were to confirm that he is "finding his way", I'd be implying that he wasn't playing well in the first 3 games of the season. That is not the case. The entire offense the first three games was not clicking and it was no fault of Sejna's.
I'd agree with this, but I also felt that Sejna was MUCH more noticeable Saturday night than he was in the previous games; he was much more an offensive catalyst than he had been. Part of it may have had something to do with his becoming more comfortable playing at this level or maybe becoming more comfortable playing with the the guys he's been playing with.... either way, he was very impressive that night. Hope he keeps it up!!

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