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Jon Sim

Just a question from a fan of his. Has he slid down the depth chart below the top 12 forwards or is he hurt?

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he's that far down now

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He'll be a Phantom by the Olympic break.

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Poor guy. Just doesn't have what it takes to maintain offensive consistency at the NHL level. Had some pretty timely goals for you though...

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Poor guy. Just doesn't have what it takes to maintain offensive consistency at the NHL level.
That pretty much sums it up.

He never really belonged in the 2nd line forward and PP role that Hitch put him in. He's a 3rd/4th liner on a good NHL team and maybe a 2nd liner on a mediocre/poor NHL team.

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so has Hitchcock basically given up on him?

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total bummer because he's WAAAY better than savage. sim rules. great work ethic and funny guy.

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I thought the Sim - Richards - Umberger line was really clicking before. What happened?

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total bummer because he's WAAAY better than savage. sim rules. great work ethic and funny guy.

I've liked Sim from what I've seen of him this season. He gets in the corner on the forcheck and works for the puck. I'd like to see him as a Flyer this season.

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I thought the Sim - Richards - Umberger line was really clicking before. What happened?
That line was clicking in preseason, but didn't perform nearly as well once the regular season started, which isn't all that surprising.

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simply put... he lost his job to the kids.

for the record, Savage is a better all-around player than Sim. If Savage hadn't been snake-bit at the beginning of the season with all of those posts...

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simply put... he lost his job to the kids.

for the record, Savage is a better all-around player than Sim. If Savage hadn't been snake-bit at the beginning of the season with all of those posts...
Agreed, Savage is much better. Sim just gave it up. When all the injuries started piling up, Sim's game never improved. These kids came up full of energy and played hard. Sim just got out worked.

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Agreed, Savage is much better. Sim just gave it up. When all the injuries started piling up, Sim's game never improved. These kids came up full of energy and played hard. Sim just got out worked.
I also agree that Savage is a more talented hockey player than Sim.

Where I will disagree with you is that Sim didn't get outworked. He gives it is all on every shift that he plays and plays as hard as anyone. The bottom line is that Carter, Richards, Umberger and even Eager are more talented than Sim is and that is the determining factor of why Sim is sitting in the stands.

He would be a great asset to a struggling Phantoms team, however.

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He would be a great asset to a struggling Phantoms team, however.
Unfortunately there's the issue of waivers, and there are plenty of teams that continue to look for guys like Sim. A plug-in who can play an offensive role and supply energy. He's done that in Nashville, LA, Pittsburgh... He can certainly do it again in St. Lousy or Columbust. (And, the price is right...)

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I also agree that Savage is a more talented hockey player than Sim.

Where I will disagree with you is that Sim didn't get outworked. He gives it is all on every shift that he plays and plays as hard as anyone. The bottom line is that Carter, Richards, Umberger and even Eager are more talented than Sim is and that is the determining factor of why Sim is sitting in the stands.

He would be a great asset to a struggling Phantoms team, however.
i agree with that, i stand corrected

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Unfortunately there's the issue of waivers, and there are plenty of teams that continue to look for guys like Sim. A plug-in who can play an offensive role and supply energy. He's done that in Nashville, LA, Pittsburgh... He can certainly do it again in St. Lousy or Columbust. (And, the price is right...)
With the play of Carter, Richards, Umberger and Eager those teams can have him.

Maybe Clarkie can trade him to one of those organizations for a draft pick or some help for the Phantoms.

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Sim was a very hard worker and had an outstanding work ethic in the beginning of the season but has definitely lost his touch

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