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01-11-2006, 03:37 PM
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Please no.

Ever since I saw him actually CRY in the penalty box after getting his *** beat by Aaron Asham..... NOOO.

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01-11-2006, 03:47 PM
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Please no.

Ever since I saw him actually CRY in the penalty box after getting his *** beat by Aaron Asham..... NOOO.
Atleast he's showing emotion.

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01-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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God no.

Varada has been playing his best hockey with the Sens at this point in time and is working really well with Kelly and Eaves.

Yesterday's goal by Eaves was all a result of Varada chasing down the defenceman and making him throw it up the middle. Vaclav could have easily let him go, but was instead on him like a bloodhound.

Barnaby has attitude issues and doesn't bring anything Varada already does.
Barnaby is a hell of alot better scorer and he will actually drop his gloves when he starts stuff. I dont usually dissagree with you Nyquil but im going to have to strongly dissagree with you here. Barnaby is also much more of a leader and he wont back down from anyone. I think he is a huge upgrade over Varada who only has two goals this year while complaining about ice time.

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01-11-2006, 05:04 PM
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Barnaby is a hell of alot better scorer and he will actually drop his gloves when he starts stuff. I dont usually dissagree with you Nyquil but im going to have to strongly dissagree with you here. Barnaby is also much more of a leader and he wont back down from anyone. I think he is a huge upgrade over Varada who only has two goals this year while complaining about ice time.
Here is my TRADE RANT

Barnaby is useless, he sucks and he is a nutcase like Avery. I wouldn't want him on the Sens just like I wouldn't want Nolan or Tkackhuk who I believe are selfish, dressing room cancers.

I don't think we need to make a trade really, as long as Havlat is back for the playoffs. But since that is not a guarantee if I made a move it would be for either Weight or Jokinen.

And to continue my rant about trades... Smoke is awesome and a super valuable member of the team - He will not and should not be traded. As a third line centre he is excellent and he can play any role we need him to play. He is not an elite player but he is a good all around player and provides good veteran leadership and is well liked and respected in the Dressing room.

Varada has been playing well lately with Kelly and Eaves. He isn't having a great year but unless we get something of value for him there is no need to trade him, we aren't near the Cap and he has about $550 000 left as a Cap hit for this year so he isn't preventing us from making a trade for Weight or anyone else. If everyone is healthy he is a likely scratch but since we are planning to play 4 rounds in the playoffs he will be needed as injuries will happen.

Eaves and Bochenski will stay with the team for the rest of the year. Hamel and Martins have both proven they are competent fill-ins in the case of a long injury list.

The only need we really have is for a 2nd line centre and even then we can easily survive without one.

To make the trade for Weight or Jokinen I would give up Vermette as to get value you need to give value. We would have to throw in something else too I am sure. I don't think they would want Varada but I would part with him if they did, or give up a 3rd or 2nd round Pick. The only other Sen I would trade is Pothier but only if we got a legit NHL D-Man in return. Pothier has done some good things this year and is on pace for like 35 pts but I think he is weak and makes bad decisions under pressure that could hurt us in the playoffs..... The ghost of Rico Persson is calling out to him. I can't stop thinking this despite his moments of good play, I believe he is the weakest link on the team.

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01-11-2006, 05:07 PM
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Varada who only has two goals this year
And if you really think about it, he hasn't scored this year. Both his goals were attempted passes that banked in off defensemen.

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01-11-2006, 05:27 PM
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Barnaby is a hell of alot better scorer and he will actually drop his gloves when he starts stuff. I dont usually dissagree with you Nyquil but im going to have to strongly dissagree with you here. Barnaby is also much more of a leader and he wont back down from anyone. I think he is a huge upgrade over Varada who only has two goals this year while complaining about ice time.
I totally agree...Barnaby would be a big upgrade on the 3rd line over Varada, and I'm sure he could be had for very little. Varada has not been agitating at all...and without agitating he's pretty useless. Perhaps he'll get waived before the deadline if someone like Barnaby is acquired.

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01-11-2006, 05:56 PM
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I knew a guy who went to a wedding of a Buffalo Sabres player, and he said Barnaby was universally disliked by everyone there, including his teammates.

I'm paranoid about having some kind of sideshow around, regardless of how well he will fight on occasion.

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01-11-2006, 06:03 PM
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I hope Muckler isn't spending time on this... he's not exactly "the missing piece".

He should be getting Doug Weight's deal finalized, dammit!

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01-11-2006, 07:14 PM
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Here is my TRADE RANT

And to continue my rant about trades... Smoke is awesome and a super valuable member of the team - He will not and should not be traded. As a third line centre he is excellent and he can play any role we need him to play. He is not an elite player but he is a good all around player and provides good veteran leadership and is well liked and respected in the Dressing room.
Well said, I'm glad others see the value of the smoke machine. He is such a versitile player and brings us the much needed vet. leadership for the playoffs. I won't argue that he isn't slightly overpaid (a pre "new Nhl" contract), but for what you'd get for him, there is no sense in even thinking about moving him.

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01-11-2006, 07:17 PM
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God no.

Varada has been playing his best hockey with the Sens at this point in time and is working really well with Kelly and Eaves.

Yesterday's goal by Eaves was all a result of Varada chasing down the defenceman and making him throw it up the middle. Vaclav could have easily let him go, but was instead on him like a bloodhound.

Barnaby has attitude issues and doesn't bring anything Varada already does.
Barnaby does bring some attitude issues with him: little known fact - his teammates with the Sabres generally disliked him, and in particular, he did not get along with captain Michael Peca (in fact Barnaby and Peca got into a fist fight at Barnaby's wedding). Muckler must know this, so it would surprise me if the Barnaby-to-Ottawa rumours are true.

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Barnaby does bring some attitude issues with him: little known fact - his teammates with the Sabres generally disliked him, and in particular, he did not get along with captain Michael Peca (in fact Barnaby and Peca got into a fist fight at Barnaby's wedding). Muckler must know this, so it would surprise me if the Barnaby-to-Ottawa rumours are true.
And I think I remember that he and Hasek had problems in Buffalo. Seeing how Hasek is probably the key to our SC aspirations, I really doubt they even think about Barnaby.

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01-11-2006, 08:02 PM
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Package any of those prospects/picks for Bell.


He's very high on my wish list.
I'll second that.

I would even go as far as to say - I'm going to be slaughtered for this - I'd move Havlat for a package that included Bell. Can you move an injured player? Chicago has absolutely no chance at the playoffs they might as well clean house and shoot for the #1 pick.

I know Havlat is the more talented player...but sooner or later he is going to be priced out of Ottawa. With him being out til at least the playoffs would it really be that bad of an idea to move Havlat + <insert scrub> for Bell and Calder/Arnason? That would give you 2/3's of a good 2nd line. I think Bell would put up great #s here and seems to be the kinda guy who would thrive in playoff hockey.

Plus we'd actually trim payroll, every little bit helps when we have the Big Z and Reds to sign:

Bell: $1.064 M
Calder: $1.311M
$2.375M

Havlat: $2.6M

Then go get Weight at the deadline and we'd have 2 great lines:
Calder-Weight-Alf
Bell-Spez-Heater
(tried to balance them)

Please be gentle it is just an idea.

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01-11-2006, 08:13 PM
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Please be gentle it is just an idea.
THROW HIM TO THE DOGS (DAWGS, DOGGS)!!!!!!!

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01-11-2006, 08:19 PM
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Sorry, but Bell is overrated. Everyone loves these powerforward types though.

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01-11-2006, 09:57 PM
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Another team that could have a firesale is NYI. What does everyone think about Mark Parrish? Since a lot of people seem to love 'power forwards', I figured I'd toss him out there as he is not afraid to get his nose dirty and can definately score goals. He's a UFA after this season and is making $1.9 million. TSN has him listed as a RW/LW.

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01-11-2006, 10:03 PM
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Another team that could have a firesale is NYI. What does everyone think about Mark Parrish? Since a lot of people seem to love 'power forwards', I figured I'd toss him out there as he is not afraid to get his nose dirty and can definately score goals. He's a UFA after this season and is making $1.9 million. TSN has him listed as a RW/LW.
Parrish is no power forward

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I'd take Parrish. He's got the spirit

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01-11-2006, 10:41 PM
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Parrish is no power forward
He's kind of one. He scores most his goals right in front of the crease, which is what you need in the postseason.

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He's kind of one. He scores most his goals right in front of the crease, which is what you need in the postseason.
So does Heatley...

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So does Heatley...
Then why not add another? (If Doug Weight doesn't come here)

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How much difference is there really between "December-Bochenski" and Parrish?

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01-11-2006, 11:14 PM
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How much difference is there really between "December-Bochenski" and Parrish?
Well, Parrish has been doing it in the NHL for years now and Bochenski did it for about 6 games. Hopefully Bochenski comes back the same way he was playing before he got hurt.

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01-11-2006, 11:16 PM
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Doug Weight

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01-11-2006, 11:18 PM
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Doug Weight
Of course, he's the primary objective. We're talking about back-up plans.

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Blake and Parrish are about the only two players I would want off of the Island. I dont see either being cheap though

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