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10-31-2003, 08:38 AM
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Err... I kinda feel dumb now, since I just started a new thread asking about Allison... Thanks for deleting it, and not letting anybody eat me alive
Don't sweat it. You're about the 15th or 16th person to have done it and there will be many more.


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bob miller and jim fox mentioned on the telecast that deadmarsh has been participating more intensely in practice, and has played very hard in five in a row. no contact yet, but a step forward, hopefully.

 
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latest on allison

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey...orts-nhl-kings

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Jason Allison, out since January because of whiplash, has been prescribed medication to fight post-traumatic migraine symptoms that might be the cause of lingering vision problems and headaches the King center has been experiencing.

Since his injury, Allison has been to three eye specialists and three neurologists. There is still no timetable for his return.

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bob miller and jim fox mentioned on the telecast that deadmarsh has been participating more intensely in practice, and has played very hard in five in a row. no contact yet, but a step forward, hopefully.
excellent news... keep it up Deader!

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11-04-2003, 10:08 AM
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Deadmarsh has been cleared to travel with the team on the road trip. It sounds like he might be back in a couple of weeks

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http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1...742653,00.html

Just to add to what BIG FAN posted... The article says that Deadmarsh could've traveled with the Kings on the 4 game road trip. Turns out he's not going to go, but he's been skating with the team for a week in practice... him being cleared to travel is a very good sign...

Allison update:

Allison has said that if he comes back and is healthy, he doesn't see how the Kings' won't qualify him for next year:
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Allison is convinced if he can return to form this season, the money will be there. He doesn't doubt he will receive his qualifying offer.

"As long as I come back and play like I can, I can't see how they cannot qualify me," Allison said. "If they don't, I'm not going to be back, or I'll be somewhere else. That's the last thing on my mind. I just want to get back and play."
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11-04-2003, 01:39 PM
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to be honest, i would not qualify him. i would keep him on the team at a salary that reflected his volatile nature. ideally would be a low base but high incentives, so that when he gets hurt again it will be less of a financial problem. if he insists on the same contract, trade him. there is no way ziggy palffy should not be the highest paid player on our team, and i would rather have him than allison. furthermore, it would be a staggering insult to palffy to try to pay him less than allison when palffy has carried this team for extended stretches. its not that i'm not a fan of allison; but the bottom line is that he gets hurt often. yeah, he plays through it pretty often, but he's also missed more than half the season two or three times in his relatively short career. he's not going to get more durable as he gets older.

 
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After these concussions both Deadmarsh and Allison are one more hit closer to the end of their carreers. Deadmarsh has more of a concussion history, but Allison seems to be affected just as badly as Deadmarsh, if not worse. If I'm Kings management, I don't plan on building around these two guys for the future. It would be wreckless spending to invest long-term in Allison at this point.
True, he might come back to form and never have a major injury again, but like agentuser said the later seems unlikely. I think the Kings will not make a qualifying offer and spend that money elsewhere.


Right now, he's 27 and these should be the prime years of his career. Too bad that he's a complete mess, he's fun to watch out there.

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correct me if i'm wrong but isn't a qualifying offer supposed to be at least 10% more than your previous contract?

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only if ur below league average. once ur on top of it, all u gota do is qualify by accepting the current salary... or so i believe

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only if ur below league average. once ur on top of it, all u gota do is qualify by accepting the current salary... or so i believe
You are correct sir!

Great site for answering all these questions:
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It helps if you have a law degree or if you are accustomed to speaking in double speak.

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I guess this is the permanent place for injury updates...?? lol.

Anyway, here's an article from TSN titled "Deadmarsh close to returning"... it talks about how Deadmarsh has been getting better everyday and that he looks really good in practice... It also says that Allison isn't doing to well, but we already knew about that.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=59521

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I guess this is the permanent place for injury updates...?? lol.

Anyway, here's an article from TSN titled "Deadmarsh close to returning"... it talks about how Deadmarsh has been getting better everyday and that he looks really good in practice... It also says that Allison isn't doing to well, but we already knew about that.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=59521
Great news for the Kings

Hope to see him back soon.

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11-06-2003, 07:51 AM
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The news on Jason Allison is not as promising. He is still suffering from the effects of a concussion and whiplash from last season. Allison, who has been diagnosed with post-migraine disorder, has yet to begin skating with the team.

Post-migraine disorder??? That's a new one on me. I've never heard of this at all. Are they are just making things up at this point!?

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11-06-2003, 08:00 AM
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More info on Allison and post-migraine disorder:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...397807,00.html

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Post-migraine disorder??? That's a new one on me. I've never heard of this at all. Are they are just making things up at this point!?
They've given him medication for his symptoms... He's going to try the medication according to the Times. They're going to see whether or not it will work.

I hope it works.

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11-06-2003, 01:01 PM
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When I was a kid I had a head injury (explains allot huh) and after I had the worst migranes that you could imagine for a couple of years. They called them cluster headaches. Of course, this was the 60's (late) and meds have come a long way since then but I can tell you that I will never forget the absolute and completely debilitating pain that came with them. I stopped having them after a couple of years (as said) but still would get them once in awhile for the rest of my life. IF Ally is having them then I don't blame him for waiting until they stop before he does anything. They would shoot me full of Morophine and other things and it still would be pure misery. Finally when one would come on they would just give me a shot and then put me to sleep for 24 hours until it went away. Get better Allison.

Of course, if you don't do it soon I hope you enjoy your next team but do get better first.

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11-10-2003, 06:29 AM
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Question from a visiting Sens fan...

I've now seen three stories about Deadmarsh' possible return (TSN, Daily News, and the LATimes)... but I'm not sure how seriously to take them. As Kings fans, you've no doubt been more closely involved in the drama that has been Deadmarsh' injury woes... has he been at this stage before? Or is this really a sign that he's likely to return to the lineup soon?

Just curious what people's take on this is. I'm not entirely sure what 'able to travel with the team' means versus 'able to play'.

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I skate at the Kings training facility (Health South) everyday and usually get to watch the team practice (when in town) and I can tell you that, over the past three weeks, Adam has practiced a bunch more and taken place in contact drills a few times as well. He had two practiced before the team went on the roadie where he was just one of the guys and participated in every drill and really was hitting everyone and everything as hard as he could without pissing people off. (or so it looked to me) I have to think that he is as ready as he is going to be at this point and that there is a chance that he will play (along with Stymy I was told) when the team returns from its trip. I was told that he might get his first start in forever against the Leafs but look for him more on Saturday if all goes well.

So, in my opinion, he must be very close to trying to come back and play. It sure looks that way from here. My concern is that he will come back and try to do too much too soon to try and catch up with his team mates. I hope he just eases his way into the line up and starts off with maybe 10 mins a game for a week or two and doesn't try playing his usual grinding hard nosed style of hockey right away. The new "concussion proof" head gear he is wearing may help a bit but I would rather have a 75% Deader than none at all.

So, yes, i think he will be back this week or at the latest next unless he hurts himself in practice, and I don't think that will happen.

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I will stick with my first hand knowledge instead of a few guys a few thousand miles away. It is true though that IF he has another concussion or that this come back is hampered in some way that he could have to retire but you could say the same about more than a half a dozen other players with head troubles in the league.

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The new "concussion proof" head gear he is wearing may help a bit but I would rather have a 75% Deader than none at all.
Are you talking about an actual piece of equipment or that massive mane of hair he has been sporting?

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So, yes, i think he will be back this week or at the latest next unless he hurts himself in practice, and I don't think that will happen.
Interesting stuff - thanks.

There's been an awful lot of contradiction recently about Deadmarsh... but I wouldn't trust half of the monkeys on television to tie my shoes. Especially on LeafsTV...

As you suggested, I'm somewhat more inclined to trust local LA news reports, and people who've actually seen him practice, but I'm just wondering why his seemingly imminent return has been so overlooked by the more mainstream media. I mean TSN picked it up, but literally nobody else has, which seems odd. It's certainly quite a story if he is.

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IGM... you rule! Thanks so much for the updates from practice.

This is very encouraging news. Deader is working so hard and I'm glad he's getting better and better everyday. I will be relieved when I see him on the ice. But for now, I'm so happy to hear about the progress he has been making. It has definitely been a long road for Deader, and I can't wait to see him back!

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Are you talking about an actual piece of equipment or that massive mane of hair he has been sporting?
hey... don't mess with the mullet!

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I watched a program on the Leafs channel last nite , a round table discussion show with paul romanuik , steve dryden and a few other notable hockey guys and they said that Deadmarsh may be forced to retire because of his concussions .
I don't consider the "Leaf Channel" a reliable source at all....I'd trust the National Inquirer(sp), before I'd believe any kind of Leaf-run media

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