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GDT: Philadelphia Flyers @ Chicago Blackhawks, Jan 11th, 8:30pm

Philadelphia Flyers vs. Chicago Blackhawks
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(27-9-6) -(14-24-4)
TV: UPN, Radio: WYSP

*Game 10/11 of the Flyers franchise-record setting road trip
*Peter Forsberg needs 3 points to reach 800 in the NHL


03/04 Season Series:
Flyers: 1-0

Blackhawks at home: 7-10-1
Flyers on the road: 14-4-3


Last 20 Encounters: (W-L-T-OTL)
13-3-4-0


Projected Starting Goalies
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(#30 Antero Niittymaki) - (#31 Craig Anderson)
(16-5-4, 2.63GAA, .908Sv%, 2 SO) - (2-7-0, 3.88GAA, .866Sv%, 0 SO)
Career vs. CHI (0-0-0, 0.00
GAA, .000Sv%, 0 SO) - Career vs. PHI (0-0-0, 0.00GAA, .000Sv%, 0 SO)



Projected Lineups
Philadelphia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chicago
. . . . . . . .
Simon Gagne - Peter Forsberg - Mike Knuble . . . . . . . . . Mark Bell - Tyler Arnason - Radim Vrbata

. . . . . . . .
Brian Savage - Michal Handzus - Branko Radivojevic . . . . . . . . Kyle Calder - Mikhail Yakubov - Martin Lapointe

. . . . . . . .
Donald Brashear - Mike Richards - Sami Kapanen . . . . . . . . . Rene Bourque - Patrick Sharp - Pavel Vorobiev

. . . . . . . .
Ben Eager - Jeff Carter - R.J Umberger . . . . . . . . . . . . Mikael Holmqvist - Andy Hilbert - Matthew Barnaby

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Kim Johnsson - Derian Hatcher . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Adrian Aucoin - Duncan Keith

? ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Mike Rathje - ???? ???? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jaroslav Spacek - Jim Vandermeer

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Randy Jones - Freddy Meyer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jassen Cullimore - Anton Babchuk

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Antero Niittymaki . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Craig Anderson

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Jamie Storr . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Adam Munro




Top Point Producers
Flyers top point producers against the Blackhawks (healthy)
(Player GP-G-A-P +/- PIM)
Peter Forsberg 28-10-33-43 +15 88
Michal Handzus19-7-10-17 +5 8
Derian Hatcher 54-2-10-12 0 125
Brian Savage 19-5-5-10 +1 6
Sami Kapanen 13-1-8-9 +3 2

Blackhawks top point producers against the Flyers(healthy)
(Player GP-G-A-P +/- PIM)
Matthew Barnaby 42-7-7-14 0 211
Adrian Aucoin 26-4-8-12 +3 20
Curtis Brown 29-3-4-7 +2 16
Jim Dowd 15-1-6-7 -3 12
Radim Vrbata 8-3-2-5 -2 0




Team Leaders
Philadelphia
(healthy)
Goals: Simon Gagne (29)
Assists: Peter Forsberg (42)
Points: Peter Forsberg (56)
+/-:
Simon Gagne (+20)
PIM: Mike Knuble (52)
Shots:
Simon Gagne (187)
TOI/G (D): Derian Hatcher (24:22)
TOI/G (F): Simon Gagne (21:19)

Chicago(healthy)
Goals: Mark Bell (16)
Assists:
Tyler Arnason (21)
Points:
Tyler Arnason (31)
+/-:
Patrick Sharp (+6)
PIM: Matthew Barnaby, Todd Simpson
(104)
Shots:
Mark Bell (132)
TOI/G (D):
Adrian Aucoin (24:12)
TOI/G (F): Kyle Calder (18:08)



Team Stats
Philadelphia
|Wins|Loss|OTL |Pts |Win%|G/G |GA/G|PP% |PK% |FO% |
| 27 | 9 .| 6 .| 60 |.714|3.55|2.95|18.5|79.8|49.9|
|5th |29th|4th |2nd |2nd |6th |11th|10th|26th|14th|

Chicago
|Wins|Loss|OTL |Pts |Win%|G/G |GA/G|PP% |PK% |FO% |
|14 | 24 | 4 .| 32 |.391|2.57|3.55|12.9|85.4|47.6|
|26th|3rd |17th|26th|26th|28th|27th|29th|4th |27th|


Injuries
Philadelphia
Turner Stevenson - Right hip flexor, Day-to-day
Joni Pitkanen - Athletic prubalgia, Mid January
Dennis Seidenberg - Left knee sprain, Day-to-day
Eric Desjardins - Right shoulder subluxation, Early-Late February
Robert Esche - Groin pull, Out indefinitely
Keith Primeau - Concussion, Out indefinitely

Chicago
Eric Daze - Back injury, day-to-day
Nikolai Khabibulin - Groin, sidelined indefinitely
Tuomo Ruutu - Right ankle injury, remainder of the regular season
Brent Seabrook - Sprained knee, late January


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Nice job as always. I was expecting Storr to get the start so Nitty would be rested for tomorrow.

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Glad to see that everything is okay with LOTN.

Now we can all celbrate because Foppa's going to get his 800th point tonight. Flyers win 5-2.

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An out of conference game against a bad team and Hitch can't throw Storr in? This is the perfect game to give Niittymaki the night off, which he has deserved.

I don't understand it. It's not like Storr is a career minor leaguer like Neil Little was. He's a former first round draft pick who, most likely, is more than capable of handling a mop up game like this. Games like this are where coaches usually play their back-ups anyway.

There is no reason why Niittymaki should play in back to back road games, especially when the 2nd game is at Detroit.

If Hitch won't put Storr in for one game, why even waste the air fare and hotel room on him? They could use a shooter tutor in the one goal during practices and use the equipment manager as the emergency backup for games.

I found this quote on the Flyers website regarding Niittymaki (who will make at least the next 3 starts)...

“Two reasons,” said Hitchcock. “We want to continue to evaluate [Niittymaki] and Esche is close. Esche is going to practice with us on Friday and we’re thinking that next week Esche is going to be ready.

“The evaluation for [Niittymaki], quite frankly, is in case he does have to play playoff games. We’re not sure on Esche yet. We have a lot of games in a row, every second night, and we’re seeing if he can handle the grind. So far, so good."

I guess Hitch doesn't remember that Niittymaki played in all of the playoff games last season for the Phantoms? And, what does Esche being close have to do with throwing Jamie Storr in net for one game? Every second night is not the same as games on consecutive nights, which Niittymaki has done since Esche went down.

It will be nice to see Jimmy Vandermeer again. Maybe Clarkie can work a deal to get him back while they are in Chicago as I'd love to see him on the Flyers blueline again.

That being said, Chicago is coming off of an away game last night, so they probably will be tired. I expect a relatively easy win for the Flyers 4-1.


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I was kind of hoping to face Bulin tonight. Get some payback from 03-04.

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im going with the flyers 2 goals up

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I was kind of hoping to face Bulin tonight. Get some payback from 03-04.
There's no such thing as playoff payback in the regular season, especially when there is a change-of-teams involved. It's like when the NFL tried to pass off a Bills-Titans preseason game as a "revenge" game following the Music City Miracle.

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i wish our lines right now were like this:

gagne-forsberg-knuble
kap-richards-zeus
eager-carter-umberger
savage-ellison-radio

scratch sim, brash.

ellison got a hat trick for the phantoms the other day. hes worthy of 4th line minutes. plus it would give carter more time

edit: only prob with these is that 3rd line is usally checking line so maybe just switch 2nd and thrid cause kap-richards and zeus would be a good D line. with plenty of O too.


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i wish our lines right now were like this:

gagne-forsberg-knuble
kap-richards-zeus
eager-carter-umberger
savage-ellison-radio

scratch sim, brash.

ellison got a hat trick for the phantoms the other day. hes worthy of 4th line minutes. plus it would give carter more time
Yup, I like the kid too, as he is a big hitter...

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Go Flyers!

I'll play my Finntroll for you guys,see when the Trollhammeren falls again

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I don't see the point of not starting Storr in net? Niittymaki already played a ton of back to back games. He's probably exhausted now, give him the extra night off

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I don't see the point of not starting Storr in net? Niittymaki already played a ton of back to back games. He's probably exhausted now, give him the extra night off
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Niittymaki Staying in Net

Despite the presence of backup goaltender Jamie Storr, Hitchcock has no plans to use the veteran goaltender between the pipes while Robert Esche continues to recover from his groin injury and Antero Niittymaki keeps up his strong play as the starter.

Why?

“Two reasons,” said Hitchcock. “We want to continue to evaluate [Niittymaki] and Esche is close. Esche is going to practice with us on Friday and we’re thinking that next week Esche is going to be ready.

“The evaluation for [Niittymaki], quite frankly, is in case he does have to play playoff games. We’re not sure on Esche yet. We have a lot of games in a row, every second night, and we’re seeing if he can handle the grind. So far, so good.”
http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pressbox/archive/2382.asp

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I don't see the point of not starting Storr in net? Niittymaki already played a ton of back to back games. He's probably exhausted now, give him the extra night off
Agreed. See my post in this thread (#4).

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I think the Flyboys start a new winning streak tonight despite Therien spotting Chicago 2 goals tonight. I say the score will be 4-2 or 5-2 Flyers, something like that.


LET'S GO FLYERS!

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It'll be good to see ol' Patrick Sharp again. I liked him.

Fly-Guys win 5-3

Flyers [Johnnson, Radio, Gagne 3 (1 EN)]
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New Jersey was a wake up call. Things were going too smooth. The teams going to come out hard tonight. 5-2 Flyers win.

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It’s time for our rookies to step up. Umberger, Richards and Carter need to produce.

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There's no such thing as playoff payback in the regular season, especially when there is a change-of-teams involved. It's like when the NFL tried to pass off a Bills-Titans preseason game as a "revenge" game following the Music City Miracle.
How about the regular season payback from 03-04? It doesn't matter, I don't like the guy or that team.

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I dont think Forsberg will get 3 points today. He will save it for Detroit when they finnaly beat them after 17 years in the Joe Louis arena.
Ill say 5-1 Forsberg with 2 assists

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“The evaluation for [Niittymaki], quite frankly, is in case he does have to play playoff games. We’re not sure on Esche yet. We have a lot of games in a row, every second night, and we’re seeing if he can handle the grind. So far, so good.”
What, winning the Calder Cup MVP--in the most talent laden AHL season ever, no less--wasn't enough? Going 7-1-1 so far on the road trip wasn't enough? At this rate he won't make the grind in the playoffs because you'll tire him out. Seems foolish to me to see if he won't run into the ground in the playoffs by running him into the ground in the regular season. Just watch, Esche will get hurt after one game and Frank will have to play a month straight.

Give the guy the night off, he's earned it.

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Give the guy the night off, he's earned it.
The guy is 25 years old he didn't just came from OHL. He was born to play professional hockey. He spent 2-3-4 years in AHL MVP in AHL playoffs. He can play and should play.

Hitch is right we need to know what kind of player he is on this level.

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The guy is 25 years old he didn't just came from OHL. He was born to play professional hockey. He spent 2-3-4 years in AHL MVP in AHL playoffs. He can play and should play.
No one is arguing that. But this is going to be his 13th straight start, and tomorrow they play Detroit. Give him the night off against a lousy team so he's rested to play one of the best teams in the league. That's all we're asking.

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Hitch is right we need to know what kind of player he is on this level.
Beating the Blackhawks won't tell us anything we don't already know. Beating the Red Wings will tell us something, let him rest for it.

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therien = out acording to flyers website. "sore back" day to day.

http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pr...juryReport.asp

seids isnt there so maybe hes back in. and kap is still listed as injured so who knows.

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The guy is 25 years old he didn't just came from OHL. He was born to play professional hockey. He spent 2-3-4 years in AHL MVP in AHL playoffs. He can play and should play.

Hitch is right we need to know what kind of player he is on this level.
So, RUS, tell us, when should a starting goaltender get the night off or should starters play in all 82 games? The guy has played in every game since Esche went down, including games on consecutive nights when most coaches give their goaltender a game off. A lot of strain is put on a goaltender when he is forced to play on consecutive nights.

Given that the Flyers are playing a lame duck team tonight and then the Red Wings tomorrow, tonight is truly the perfect night to give Niittymaki the night off.

If Hitch has no intention of giving Storr any playing time, why even bother by putting him on the roster?

I truly hope that this move doesn't bite the Flyers if Niittymaki does get hurt tomorrow night.

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therien = out acording to flyers website. "sore back" day to day.

http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pr...juryReport.asp

seids isnt there so maybe hes back in. and kap is still listed as injured so who knows.
Starting to build up again...

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