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07-19-2016, 02:46 AM
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Top 20 Prospects of years past

2011 top prospects (the cupboards were bare...):

1. Mark Scheifele, C (Jets)* made Jets roster in 2013-14
2. Carl Klingberg, LW (Sweden)* traded to NY Rangers in 2014-15
3. Patrice Cormier, C (AHL)*released after 2016-17
4. Paul Postma, D (Boston)*signed with Boston as UFA 2017
5. Jason Gregoire, LW (retired)*retired from hockey after 2014-15
6. Ivan Telegin, C (KHL)*returned to Russia after refusing to report to Ice Caps 2013-14
7. Eric O'Dell, C (KHL)*signed with Ottawa, after 2014-15
8. Ben Maxwell, C (KHL)*signed with the KHL in 2014-15
9. Spencer Machacek, RW (Germany)*traded to Columbus in 2012-13
10. Arturs Kulda, D (KHL)*signed with the KHL after 2011-12
11. Zach Redmond, D (Montreal)*signed with Colorado after 2013-14
12. Vinny Saponari, RW (Norway)*signed with KHL after 2015-16
13. Julian Melchiori, D (Jets)*played 1/2 season with AHL Moose
14. Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel, G (Sweden)*currently playing in Sweden
15. Daultan Leveille, C (ECHL)
16. Adam Lowry, LW (Jets)*made Jets roster in 2014-15
17. Brennan Serville, D (retired)*retired after 2015-16 season
18. Jordan Samuels-Thomas, LW (ECHL)*traded to Buffalo after 2013-14
19. John Albert, C (AHL)*signed with Finnish league after 2015-16
20. Zachary Yuen, D (KHL)*signed with the KHL after 2015-16


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Top 20 prospects 2012:

1. Mark Scheifele, C
2. Jacob Trouba, D
*made Jets roster in 2013-14
3. Ivan Telegin, LW (KHL)
4. Paul Postma, D (Boston)
5. Spencer Machacek, RW (Germany)
7. Patrice Cormier, C (AHL)
8. Carl Klingberg, LW (Sweden)
8. Eddie Pasquale, G (AHL)*signed with Montreal 2015
9. Lukas Sutter, C (CIS)*released after 2013-14
10. Adam Lowry, LW
11. Zach Redmond, D (Montreal)

12. Scott Kosmachuk, RW (AHL Moose)
13. Zachary Yuen, D (KHL)
14. Jason Gregoire, LW (retired)*retired after the 2014-15 season
15. Ben Maxwell, C (KHL)*signed with the KHL in 2014-15
16. Julian Melchiori, D
17. Eric O'Dell, C (KHL)
18. Cody Sol, D (ECHL)
19. Brennan Serville, D (retired)
20. Austen Brassard, RW (AHL Moose)*released after 2016-17


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2013 Hfboards Top 20 prospects:

1. Jacob Trouba
2. Mark Scheifele

3. Josh Morrissey*made Jets roster in 2016-17
4. Adam Lowry
5. Zach Redmond (Colorado)
6. Nic Petan*made Jets roster in 2015-16
7. Paul Postma (BOSTON)
8. Eric O'Dell (kHL)
9. Connor Hellebuyck*made Jets roster in 2015-16
10. Ivan Telegin (KHL)
11. Eric Comrie (AHL Moose)
12. Jimmy Lodge (AHL Moose)
13. Scott Kosmachuk (AHL Moose)
14. Arturs Kulda (KHL)
15. J.C. Lipon (AHL Moose)
16. Julian Melchiori
17. Juho Olkinuora (Finland)*returned to Finland in 2016-17
18. Ryan Olsen (AHL Moose)
19. Brenden Kichton (AHL Moose)*signed by Carolina after 2016-17 season
20. Andrew Copp
*made Jets roster in 2015-16


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Top 20 prospects, 2014:

1. LW Nikolaj Ehlers*made Jets roster in 2015-16
2. D Joshua Morrissey
3. G Connor Hellebuyck
4. C Nic Petan
5. G Michael Hutchinson
*made Jets roster in 2014-15
6. RW Scott Kosmachuk (AHL Moose)
7. LW Adam Lowry
8. C Eric O'Dell (KHL)
9. G Eric Comrie (AHL Moose)
10. D Jack Glover (NCAA)
11. RW JC Lipon (AHL Moose)
12. C Andrew Copp
13. C Chase De Leo (AHL Moose)
14. D Brendan Kichton (AHL Moose)
15. LW Carl Klingberg (Sweden)
16. C Jimmy Lodge (AHL Moose)
17. LW Axel Blomqvist (Sweden)*returned to Sweden 2016-17
18. C Pavel Kraskovsky (KHL)
19. D Jan Kostalek (AHL Moose)
20. C Ryan Olsen (AHL Moose)*released after 2016-17


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2015 Top 20 Prospects:


1. Nikolaj Ehlers, RW/LW
2. Connor Hellebuyck, G

3. Josh Morrissey, D
4. Nic Petan, C/LW
5. Kyle Connor, C
6. Joel Armia, RW
7. Jack Roslovic, C/RW (AHL Moose)
8. Jansen Harkins, C, Prince George (WHL)
9. Eric Comrie, G (AHL Moose)
10. Ben Chiarot, D
11. Andrew Copp, C
12. Jan Kostalek, D (AHL Moose)
13. Brendan Lemieux, LW, Barrie (AHL Moose)
14. Scott Kosmachuk, RW (AHL Moose)
15. Michael Spacek, C, Red Deer (WHL)
16. Chase De Leo, C (AHL Moose)
17. Erik Foley, LW (NCAA)
18. Pavel Kraskovsky, C (KHL)
19. J.C. Lipon, RW (AHL Moose)
20. Sami Niku, D, Finland


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2016 Top 20 Prospects:

1. Patrik Laine, LW/RW
2. Kyle Connor, LW/C

3. Connor Hellebuyck, G
4. Josh Morrissey, D
5. Nic Petan C/LW
6. Jack Roslovic, C/RW (AHL Moose)
7. Joel Armia, RW
8. Brendan Lemieux, RW, Windsor (AHL Moose)
9. Eric Comrie, G (AHL Moose)
10. Logan Stanley, D, Windsor (OHL)
11. Chase De Leo, C/LW (AHL Moose)
12. Luke Green, D, Saint John (QMJHL)
13. Jansen Harkins, C, Prince George (WHL)
14. Tucker Poolman (NCAA)
15. Michael Spacek, C/RW, Red Deer (WHL)
16. Sami Niku, D, Finland
17. Erik Foley, LW (NCAA)
18. Scott Kosmachuk, RW (AHL Moose)
19. Jan Kostalek, D (AHL Moose)
20. J.C.Lipon, RW (AHL Moose)


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It truly is a process........


Nice work btw!

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2012 Top 20 prospects (+/- rank since previous year):

RkPlayerPOS Curr.Team+/-
1 Mark Scheifele CJets 0
2 Jacob Trouba DJetsNEW
3 Ivan Telegin LW KHL +7
4 Paul Postma DJets 0
5 Spencer Machacek RW Germany +4
6 Patrice Cormier C Moose -3
7 Carl Klingberg LW SHL -5
8 Eddie Pasquale G Ice Caps UNL
9 Lukas Sutter C ECHL NEW
10 Adam Lowry LW Jets +6
11 Zach Redmond D Avalanche 0
12 Scott Kosmachuk RW Moose NEW
13 Zachary Yuen D ECHL +7
14 Jason Gregoire LW Retired -9
15 Ben Maxwell C KHL -7
16 Julian Melchiori D Moose/Jets -3
17 Eric O'Dell C AHL -10
18 Cody Sol D ECHL UNL
19 Brennan Serville D Moose -2
20 Austen Brassard RW Moose UNL

NHL Graduates from 2011 list: 0

Dropped from 2011 list: 6
10. Arturs Kulda, D (KHL)
12. Vinny Saponari, RW (ECHL)
14. Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel, G (Sweden)
15. Daultan Leveille, C (ECHL)
18. Jordan Samuels-Thomas, LW (AHL)
19. John Albert, C (AHL)

These 6 were replaced by 3 2012 draftees (Trouba, Sutter, Kosmachuk) and 3 previously unlisted players (Pasquale, Sol, Brassard).

Highest riser: Pasquale +13 (unlisted to 8th)
Farthest faller: Kulda -11 (10th to unlisted)

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2013 Top 20 prospects (+/- rank since previous year):

RkPlayerPOS Curr.Team+/-
1Jacob TroubaDJets+1
2Mark ScheifeleCJets-1
3Josh Morrissey DMooseNEW
4Adam LowryC/LWJets+6
5 Zach RedmondDAvalanche+6
6 Nic PetanCMoose/JetsNEW
7Paul PostmaDJets-3
8 Eric O'Dell CAHL+9
9 Connor HellebuyckGMoose/JetsUNL
10 Ivan TeleginLWKHL-7
11 Eric ComrieGMooseNEW
12 Jimmy LodgeCMoose/TulsaNEW
13 Scott Kosmachuk RW Moose-1
14 Arturs Kulda DKHLUNL
15 J.C. Lipon RWMooseNEW
16 Julian MelchioriD Moose 0
17 Jussi Olkinuora GECHLNEW
18 Ryan OlsenC MooseUNL
19 Brenden KichtonDMooseNEW
20 Andrew CoppCJetsNEW

NHL Graduates from 2012 list: 0

Dropped from 2012 list: 11
5. Spencer Machacek, RW (Germany)
6. Patrice Cormier, C (AHL)
7. Carl Klingberg, LW (AHL)
8. Eddie Pasquale, G (AHL)
9. Lukas Sutter, C (ECHL)
13. Zachary Yuen, D (ECHL)
14. Jason Gregoire, LW (Retired)
15. Ben Maxwell, C (KHL)
18. Cody Sol, D (ECHL)
19. Brennan Serville, D (AHL Moose)
20. Austen Brassard, RW (AHL Moose)

Those 11 were replaced by 7 2013 draftees (Morrissey, Petan, Comrie, Lodge, Lipon, Kichton), 1 UFA signing (Olkinoura) and 2 previously unranked players (Kulda, Olsen).

Big turnover! 7 out of 10 2013 draftees made the list - crazy.

Highest riser: Hellebuyck +12 (unlisted to 9th)
Farthest faller: Cormier -15 (6th to unlisted - but there were so many big fallers: 5-9 ranked players the previous year all fell off the list).

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2014 Top 20 prospects (+/- rank since previous year):

RkPlayerPOS Curr.Team+/-
1 Nikolaj EhlersLWJetsNEW
2 Joshua Morrissey DMoose+1
3 Connor Hellebuyck GMoose/Jets+6
4 Nic Petan CMoose/Jets+2
5 Michael HutchinsonGJetsUNL
6 Scott KosmachukRW Moose+7
7 Adam LowryC/LWJets-2
8 Eric O'Dell C AHL 0
9 Eric Comrie GMoose+2
10 Jack GloverD NCAA NEW
11 JC LiponRWMoose+4
12 Andrew Copp C Jets+8
13 Chase De LeoCMooseNEW
14 Brendan KichtonDMoose+5
15 Carl KlingbergLW KHLUNL
16 Jimmy LodgeCMoose-4
17 Axel BlomqvistLWMoose/TulsaUNL
18 Pavel KraskovskyC KHL NEW
19 Jan Kostalek DMooseUNL
20Ryan OlsenCMoose-2

NHL Graduates from 2013 list: 4
1. Jacob Trouba, D, Jets
2. Mark Scheifele, C, Jets
5. Zach Redmond, D, Avs/Habs
7. Paul Postma, D, Jets

Dropped from 2012 list: 4
10. Telegin, LW, KHL
14. Kulda, D, KHL
16. Melchiori, D, Moose
17. Olkinoura, G, ECHL

Those 8 were replaced by 4 2014 draftees (Ehlers, Glover, De Leo, Kraskovsky), and 4 previously unlisted players (Hutchinson, Klingberg, Blomqvist, Kostalek).

Highest riser: Hutchinson +16 (unlisted to 5th)
Farthest faller: Telegin -11 (10th to unlisted)

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2015 Top 20 prospects (+/- rank since previous year):

RkPlayerPOS Curr.Team+/-
1 Nikolaj Ehlers RW/LW Jets +0
2 Connor Hellebuyck G Moose/Jets +1
3 Josh Morrissey D Moose-1
4 Nic Petan C/LWMoose/Jets+0
5 Kyle Connor LW Jets? NEW
6 Joel ArmiaRWJetsNEW
7 Jack Roslovic C/RW London/Moose? NEW
8 Jansen Harkins C Prince GeorgeNEW
9 Eric Comrie GMoose+0
10 Ben Chiarot DJetsUNL
11 Andrew Copp CJets+1
12 Jan Kostalek D Moose+7
13 Brendan Lemieux LW Barrie NEW
14 Scott Kosmachuk RW Moose -8
15 Michael Spacek C Red Deer NEW
16 Chase De Leo C Moose-3
17 Erik Foley LW NCAA NEW
18 Pavel KraskovskyC KHL+0
19 J.C. Lipon RW Moose-8
20 Sami Niku D FinlandNEW

NHL Graduates from 2014 list: 2
5. Michael Hutchinson, G, Jets
7. Adam Lowry, C/LW, Jets

Dropped from 2012 list: 7
8. C Eric O'Dell (AHL)
10. D Jack Glover (NCAA)
14. D Brendan Kichton (AHL Moose)
15. LW Carl Klingberg (AHL)
16. C Jimmy Lodge (AHL Moose)
17. LW Axel Blomqvist (AHL Moose)
20. C Ryan Olsen (AHL Moose)

Those 9 were replaced by 6 2015 draftees (Connor, Roslovic, Harkins, Spacek, Foley, Niku), 2 players acquired by trade (Armia, Lemieux) and one previously unlisted player (Chiarot).

Between the Kane/Bogo trade and the 2015 draft there were a lot of fresh new faces in the list last year.

Highest riser: Ben Chiarot +11 (unlisted to 10th)
Farthest faller: Glover -11 (10th to unlisted)

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2016 Top 20 prospects (+/- rank since previous year):

RkPlayerPOS Curr.Team+/-
1 Patrik Laine LW/RW Finland NEW
2 Kyle Connor LW/C Jets? +3
3 Connor Hellebuyck G Moose/Jets-1
4 Josh Morrissey D Moose-1
5 Nic Petan C/LWMoose/Jets-1
6 Jack Roslovic C/RW London/Moose?+1
7 Joel Armia RWJets-1
8 Brendan Lemieux RW Windsor +5
9 Eric Comrie G Moose+0
10 Logan Stanley D WindsorNEW
11 Chase De Leo C/LW Moose+5
12 Luke Green D Saint JohnNEW
13 Jansen Harkins C Prince George-5
14 Tucker Poolman DNCAAUNL
15 Michael Spacek C/RW Red Deer+0
16 Sami Niku D Finland +4
17 Erik Foley LW NCAA+0
18 Scott Kosmachuk RW Moose-4
19 Jan KostalekDMoose-7
20. JC LiponRWMoose-1

NHL Graduates from 2015 list: 3
1. Ehlers
10. Chiarot
11. Copp

Dropped from the 2014 list:
18. C Pavel Kraskovsky (KHL)

EDIT: So only four new faces on the list (3 2016 draftees plus Poolman). This is the lowest turnover since the team moved here. Next year should see a lot of new names though with all the expected graduations coming.

Going through all this, it's funny how Morrissey has been the 2nd to 4th highest rated prospect since he was drafted in 2013 and Comrie's been 9th for 3 straight years after debuting at 11th. Petan forever around 5th spot. Hellebuyck with 3 straight years in the Top 3.

Highest riser: Poolman +7 (unlisted to 14th)
Farthest faller: Kostalek -7


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Yuen just signed in the Khl on their new team.

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Yuen just signed in the Khl on their new team.
Ah, the last time the Jets traded up for a defenseman...

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lucas sutter didn't last long. #11 and then never to be seen again...

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lucas sutter didn't last long. #11 and then never to be seen again...
He's didn't even play pro hockey last year.

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All-time 1st-10th ranked prospects. You can see the depth building on the right side of each line.

#1: Scheifele, Scheifele, Trouba, Ehlers, Ehlers, Laine
#2: Klingberg, Trouba, Scheifele, Morrissey, Hellebuyck, Connor
#3: Cormier, Telegin, Morrissey, Hellebuyck, Morrisey, Hellebuyck
#4: Postma, Postma, Lowry, Petan, Petan, Morrissey
#5: Gregoire, Machacek, Redmond, Hutchinson, Connor, Petan
#6: Telegin, Cormier, Petan, Kosmachuk, Armia, Roslovic
#7: O'Dell, Klingberg, Postma, Lowry, Roslovic, Armia
#8: Maxwell, Pasquale, O'Dell, O'Dell, Harkins, Lemieux
#9: Machacek, Sutter, Hellebuyck, Comrie, Comrie, Comrie
#10: Kulda, Lowry, Telegin, Glover, Chiarot, Stanley

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That's an interesting way to look at it, Gm0ney. The quality definitely improves as you head towards the right side of each #.

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All-time 1st-10th ranked prospects. You can see the depth building on the right side of each line.

#1: Scheifele, Scheifele, Trouba, Ehlers, Ehlers, Laine
#2: Klingberg, Trouba, Scheifele, Morrissey, Hellebuyck, Connor
#3: Cormier, Telegin, Morrissey, Hellebuyck, Morrisey, Hellebuyck
#4: Postma, Postma, Lowry, Petan, Petan, Morrissey
#5: Gregoire, Machacek, Redmond, Hutchinson, Connor, Petan
#6: Telegin, Cormier, Petan, Kosmachuk, Armia, Roslovic
#7: O'Dell, Klingberg, Postma, Lowry, Roslovic, Armia
#8: Maxwell, Pasquale, O'Dell, O'Dell, Harkins, Lemieux
#9: Machacek, Sutter, Hellebuyck, Comrie, Comrie, Comrie
#10: Kulda, Lowry, Telegin, Glover, Chiarot, Stanley
I really like it shown this way. Man does it show the vast improvement in prospect depth. And year 1 of the Jets 2.0 era was as bare as a prospect cupboard could be after young Mr. Scheifele.

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He's didn't even play pro hockey last year.
Lukas Sutter played in the Fort Carlton Hockey League for the Prairie Outlaws. The FCHL is a Senior Hockey league in Saskatchewan. Lukas was instrumental in leading the Outlaws to the league championship.

http://www.fchl.ca/site/3333/page.as...6&Section=Home

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Interesting that Ben Chiarot, drafted 2009 doesn't make the Top 20 until 2015 and plays in the NHL the same year. What other "gems" are we currently overlooking?

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Interesting that Ben Chiarot, drafted 2009 doesn't make the Top 20 until 2015 and plays in the NHL the same year. What other "gems" are we currently overlooking?
Answer: how many others can we pair with Buff.

I do hope there are some players on this list (like Kossy) that have a break-through year. That would be helpful.

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Conversation at the end of 2014-15 season...

JC Lipon: "hey coach, I'm ranked way down at 19 in the prospects list. What do I need to improve on in order to move up that list?"

Coach: "you will need to score more points. If you can go from .33 ppg and double it to .66 ppg you should move up. And if you can Stay right with our new ultra talented player Nic Petan in ppg you'll really make an impression.

Lipon: "is that it?"

Coach: "Well, if you get a shot at the NHL this year, make a good impression on them and then you'll have done everything we've asked of you and you'll naturally move up the rankings."

July 2016:
Lipon: "Hey, what the ?"

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Mud Turtle - you forgot:

Coach: "Oh, and don't age a year while doing the above."


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Well he got MOST of it right! ��
Basically a late bloomer like Poolman and I personally think he has more offensive upside than some people here give him credit for.


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