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01-12-2006, 08:48 PM
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None of the forwards have been that good.
True, but Schaefer's indifferent perimeter play has stood out.

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well a good last pp chance, sens trying a lot of those little quick passes across the grain in the slot, just too clogged up

the sens are not as good on paper as they have been on the ice.

used up all our puck luck against the coyoyes.

Im getting worried. Thrashers and Sharks are the 2nd half teams i think and they both beat us, like the flames, stars, flyers, canes, all the good teams

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01-12-2006, 08:49 PM
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Im getting worried. Thrashers and Sharks are the 2nd half teams i think and they both beat us, like the flames, stars, flyers, canes, all the good teams
Well, it's mid-season so I'm not as worried, particularly since we have guys in the lineup who have just come off injury and when you shake up your roster there's always adjustments.

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01-12-2006, 08:50 PM
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Meszaros has had one of his worst games of the year tonight. No one has stood out other than Hasek, whose been tremendous.

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01-12-2006, 08:52 PM
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No excuses, we just laid a big fat egg tonight.

Funny, because we had 40 shots, but nothing particularly dangerous, especially with respect to odd-man rushes and/or breakaways, which the Sharks had in spades.

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01-12-2006, 08:55 PM
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Nabokov played a great game as well. Stoned the Sens when he needed to. Couple that with some pretty flat play by the Sens and this is the result. Oh well, back to the inspiration board eh

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01-12-2006, 08:56 PM
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Ottawa played good enough to win most of the time, just not tonight. Nothing to worry about.

Simply, they were outplayed and out coached. It happens I guess?





With the Hossa/Heatley swap, I think Ottawa's overall team speed took a slight hit. The last time there was hockey, no team was faster. Tonight, San Jose looked like the faster team (by far actually). Don't underestimet speed with the tight penalty calls this year. Havlat's loss slows the team down as well.

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01-12-2006, 09:01 PM
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With the Hossa/Heatley swap, I think Ottawa's overall team speed took a slight hit. The last time there was hockey, no team was faster. Tonight, San Jose looked like the faster team (by far actually). Don't underestimet speed with the tight penalty calls this year. Havlat's loss slows the team down as well.
I made the argument earlier that we're more gritty and better down low and in front of the net but at a cost to team speed.

Some games, that's an advantage, some games it isn't.

Havlat is obviously a huge weapon who is out at the moment.

I think Schaefer-Fisher-Neil are a terrible PP unit. Fisher and Neil are not playmakers and can't be counted on to move the puck quickly and effectively. Neil is fine if he has to simply stand in front of the net.

I thought Eaves and Kelly can move the puck better, oddly enough.

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01-12-2006, 09:02 PM
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01-12-2006, 09:12 PM
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No excuses, we just laid a big fat egg tonight.

Funny, because we had 40 shots, but nothing particularly dangerous, especially with respect to odd-man rushes and/or breakaways, which the Sharks had in spades.
You are correct sir, but on a side note, "had it in spades" is one of the most annoying sayings in existence. Nothing personal of course.

It hurts my heart when games like this happen...

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01-12-2006, 09:12 PM
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in response to the surprise of langfeld playing on the pk...every sharks forward on the roster plays on the pk...with the exception of maybe niko dimitrakos..who is just garbage, and even he plays on the pk sometimes. anyways...good game tonight, hasek really kept the sens in it.

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01-12-2006, 09:16 PM
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True, but Schaefer's indifferent perimeter play has stood out.
Forgot about Eaves, he had a good game.

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01-12-2006, 09:23 PM
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i thought the fans were booing Chara there at one time, anyone hear it?

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01-12-2006, 09:35 PM
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It's all well and good to pile up the numbers against teams like Phoenix, Boston and the Islanders, but when was the last time this team defeated a quality opponent, at home or on the road ? By my count they're winless against Philly, Dallas, Vancouver, Calgary and San Jose, and even on the season against Carolina.

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01-12-2006, 09:40 PM
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This team frustrates me:

-Alfie was good... but then tried to do too much himself... can't blame him.

-Heatley was nowhere to be seen...sigh...

-Eaves and Kelly were great again

-Schaefer's play has dropped off, since a couple months ago where he was dominating the boards every night.

-There is no offensive creativity on this team after Alfie, and Heatley (to a degree).

-Our D is underachieving... Only Volchenkov seems to be playing well.

San Jose played an excellent game mind you.


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01-12-2006, 09:42 PM
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It's all well and good to pile up the numbers against teams like Phoenix, Boston and the Islanders, but when was the last time this team defeated a quality opponent, at home or on the road ? By my count they're winless against Philly, Dallas, Vancouver, Calgary and San Jose, and even on the season against Carolina.
Buffalo? The last two against Carolina? Rangers? Kings?

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01-12-2006, 09:48 PM
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This team frustrates me:

-Alfie was good... but then tried to do much himself... can't blame him.
Agreed.

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-Heatley was nowhere to be seen...sigh...
He was awful, as was Smolinski.

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-Eaves and Kelly were great again
Can't depend on them for offense, especially when their other winger lacks any actual hockey ability.

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-Schaefer's play has dropped off since a couple months ago where he was dominating the boards every night.
He misses Havlat.

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-There is no offensive creativity on this team after Alfie, and Heatley (to a degree).
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-Our D is underachieving... Only Volchenkov seems to be playing well.
Volchenkov was his usual solid self, and Pothier actually played decent defensively (Hate him on the powerplay), but everyone else was off. Redden made quite a bit of giveaways, as did Chara, Meszaros got burned a few times early and had one of his worst games, and Phillips got caught pinching a few times.

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01-12-2006, 10:03 PM
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Buffalo? The last two against Carolina? Rangers? Kings?
Buffalo: Sens last beat them 2 months ago, well before the Sabres' run. Sabres are now playing much better than earlier in the season.

Carolina: Acknowledged in my post.

Rangers: Weekes had a complete melt down in net for the Rangers.

Kings: My bad - quality win against a quality opponent.

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01-12-2006, 10:05 PM
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True, but Schaefer's indifferent perimeter play has stood out.
I agree he needs to get his nose dirty and start creating some offense. I know its a long season but he needs to step up right now.

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01-12-2006, 10:12 PM
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Buffalo: Sens last beat them 2 months ago, well before the Sabres' run. Sabres are now playing much better than earlier in the season.
Here's your problem.

When the Sens were unstoppable earlier in the season, they also had the league's hardest schedule in terms of opponent winning percentage.

You can't play it both ways, and say that Buffalo is good now, and weren't then. By the same token, teams like the Habs were good then, and are suffering now.

We also didn't get to play Atlanta when they had no goaltender, like other teams did.

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01-12-2006, 10:21 PM
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I think this was brought up before:

Jacques Martin's coaching style benefits a team that lacks scoring prowess (like the decimated version of the Sens). We would have probably won a few of these games. Murray's style is beneficial with a skilled forward-group. This is why I pray we stay healthy for the playoffs... but it's not like Martin's style got us anywhere, so we have nothing to lose.

So in reality, my above comments are fruitless, and simply an observation. You might as well pretend I didn't post this.

I am just getting pissed and don't know who to blame... Heatley and Spezza's lactating duct are prime targets at this point.

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01-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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You might as well pretend I didn't post this.
Too late, already been quoted.

Spezza tries to impress Gretzky, plays hurt, and hasn't been the same since. This guy seems more worried about the Olympics at times than the Sens.

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01-12-2006, 10:49 PM
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I think it's time to worry.

The Sens are allowed to lose games like this over the season, but it bothers me that they haven't learned anything. I mean, this game, Dallas déja-vu, anyone? Hasek is amazing and nobody else produces. The other team is tight defensively and pressures the puck carrier, and we collapse and panic.

Philadelphia, Carolina, Dallas, Calgary and Vancouver all played similar games. Quality opponents yes, but we should be at or better than .500 against them. The Sens just can't seem to get motivated for a game properly; against Phoenix, the presence of Alfie was enough, but Murray's got a lot of work to do.

I feel bad for Hasek. He's holding us together and getting no support.

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01-12-2006, 10:57 PM
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Here's your problem.

When the Sens were unstoppable earlier in the season, they also had the league's hardest schedule in terms of opponent winning percentage.

You can't play it both ways, and say that Buffalo is good now, and weren't then. By the same token, teams like the Habs were good then, and are suffering now.

We also didn't get to play Atlanta when they had no goaltender, like other teams did.

When the Sens defeated the Sabres Nov 12, it dropped the Sabres record to 9-8. Since that game, the Sabres have gone 18-5. All I'm saying is that judging by their record alone, I'd say the Sabres are playing a fair bit better now than on Nov 12.

And the Sens did have the unenviable task of facing Atlanta with Michael Garnett between the pipes.

But I do get the point.

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01-12-2006, 11:00 PM
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Spezza tries to impress Gretzky, plays hurt, and hasn't been the same since. This guy seems more worried about the Olympics at times than the Sens.
As much as I don't want to knock on Spezza, cause I know he's injured and it's difficult to play through injuries, I agree completely with you. He seems almost disinterested in the Sens, and unmotivated to come back.

I remember hearing in an interview with him that his biggest goal for the year is to make the Olympic team. If he doesn't put in 100% effort when he comes back, I will be rather disappointed.

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