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10-20-2003, 06:01 AM
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Top Pure Goal Scorer Is...

*drumroll* http://www.mytelus.com/sports/articl...icleID=1437549

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Objection!

Brett Hull is still in a league of his own, especially when you consider his age and icetime compared with Markus. He has the best goal instincts and the best shot in general by a pretty solid margain.

Naslund isn't a bold choice though, he certianly is a fair pick, but so would Milan Hedjuk or Jaromir Jagr.

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It's Stu Barnes. He's going to get his first Rocket Richard this year.

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Objection!

Brett Hull is still in a league of his own, especially when you consider his age and icetime compared with Markus. He has the best goal instincts and the best shot in general by a pretty solid margain.

Naslund isn't a bold choice though, he certianly is a fair pick, but so would Milan Hedjuk or Jaromir Jagr.
Substained.

Hull is indeed a great goal scorer, but he is slowing down, and his pure offensive output is going the wrong way. A legend, and one of the best goal scorers of all time - but I'm afraid he's not the best right now.

Jagr may be, but hasn't been able to proove it over a long person of time. Hejduk is more than fair of a pick, but some might argue that more than his fair share that went in were tap-ins off Forsberg's great passing.

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Changes all the time IMO, right now its kovalchuck hands down. Stu is a close second...

Was this poll taken in the vancouver media?

naslund wouldn't be my choice......

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10-20-2003, 07:58 AM
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It's STILL Pavel Bure, dammit! 31 goals in his last 50 games! Stupid knee injury...

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I would say Hejduk or Naslund

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I say Kovalchuk.

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Changes all the time IMO, right now its kovalchuck hands down. Stu is a close second...

Was this poll taken in the vancouver media?

naslund wouldn't be my choice......
The Hockey News is located in Toronto.

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Nobody has scored more goals in the NHL in the last 3 years than Markus Naslund.

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Bure would easily have been the winner imo had he had his health. That said, Naslund is a great choice. Iginla has a Richard, Hossa might be the budding superstar, and Hejduk has a Richard and 2 40+ goal seasons in the last 3 years.

But what Naslund has above all of them *right now* are three consecutive 40+ goal efforts. There is something to be said for consistancy, and Naslund has it. Yes, its too bad Jagr is unhappy, and Hejduk got hurt, and Iginla doesn't have bounds of talent around him, and Hossa has had to work his way up a deep team. But for Naslund, all the proof is in the back of the net.

Kovalchuk certainly looks to have the best predatory instincts out there right now and surely it is only a matter of time (perhaps a short time) before he stamps his name on top of this list but let's give the kid some more time.

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It's clearly Milan Hejduk. People resist this obvious answer for several reasons.

One is animus towards the Avalanche because of their continued embarrassment of riches.
Also because the thinking is that you could put any respectable first-liner with Forsberg and he would have similar results.
Third I think it is counter-intuitive to credit a guy as best pure goal scorer who has been maybe the 4th best overall player on his team.

But I am telling you, this guys skills as a goal scorer are second to none. His hands are the best in the game. He has uncanny hockey sense, he is always in perfect position.He has precision. He has timing. He has a rocket seeing-eye shot.He has speed and more importantly, quickness. He is a prototype. If you put him on the top line anywhere you would see similar stats.

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It's clearly Milan Hejduk. People resist this obvious answer for several reasons.

One is animus towards the Avalanche because of their continued embarrassment of riches.
Also because the thinking is that you could put any respectable first-liner with Forsberg and he would have similar results.
Third I think it is counter-intuitive to credit a guy as best pure goal scorer who has been maybe the 4th best overall player on his team.

But I am telling you, this guys skills as a goal scorer are second to none. His hands are the best in the game. He has uncanny hockey sense, he is always in perfect position.He has precision. He has timing. He has a rocket seeing-eye shot.He has speed and more importantly, quickness. He is a prototype. If you put him on the top line anywhere you would see similar stats.
And Knuble is a true 30+ goal scorer too

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It's clearly Milan Hejduk. People resist this obvious answer for several reasons.

One is animus towards the Avalanche because of their continued embarrassment of riches.
Also because the thinking is that you could put any respectable first-liner with Forsberg and he would have similar results.
Third I think it is counter-intuitive to credit a guy as best pure goal scorer who has been maybe the 4th best overall player on his team.

But I am telling you, this guys skills as a goal scorer are second to none. His hands are the best in the game. He has uncanny hockey sense, he is always in perfect position.He has precision. He has timing. He has a rocket seeing-eye shot.He has speed and more importantly, quickness. He is a prototype. If you put him on the top line anywhere you would see similar stats.
I think you can certainly make an arguement for him, but how exactly is it 'clear'? You list a load of great attributes to describe him, but one could do the same with Naslund or Kovalchuk or Hossa. Best hands in the league? I'd certainly say so. But Hull has his epic blast from the slot, Naslund has hisultra-quick and accurate wrister, Iginla and Hossa have the strength and balance to power through defenders, and Bure nad Kovalchuk have explosive amounts of accerlation and can beat you with any number of tricks.

Not trying to make it sound like Hejduk is a one-trick pony...certainly he isn't. But he has his special attribute as do most of the other guys. With Bure shelved, Jagr not always entirely interested, and Kovalchuk not quite in his prime yet, there isn't one guy I'd say stands far above a few of the other guys. And thats where I'd go with naslund's consistancy.

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10-20-2003, 09:22 AM
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And Knuble is a true 30+ goal scorer too
Wow, glad you took the time to think that rebuttal out...

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Wow, glad you took the time to think that rebuttal out...
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hejduk is good but he certainly isn't the best. he is a good 30 goal scorer on any given day of the week but he would instantly be a solid 40+ man playing alongside forsberg or sakic. naslund is a surefire 35+ man who most teams double-team unlike hejduk who is merely an extension of forsberg or sakic. the best goalscorer in the league imo is mario lemieux. if the other teams simply gave him some room to manuveor and gave him a solid teammate or two, he'd have easily 50 in 82 games

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Right know it's Kovalchuk

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Glen Murray, Pavol Demitra, Ilya Kovalchuk

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Quick question for folks here...

I'd like you to simply list how many goals you think Markus Naslund, Ilya Kovalchuk and Mario Lemieux would score a season if they played on Peter Forsberg's wing.

For Milan Hejduk, it's 50. Some clowns think he's a 30 goal scorer, yet the guy has possibly the best set of pure sniping hands in the league. He can hit the net from anywhere in the zone, and scores goals at ridiculous angles. Yes, Forsberg's passing allows him to make all of those shots, but we are talking about the best goal scoring ability, aren't we?

Hejduk puts the puck in the net whenever it comes on his stick.

Isn't that the definition of the best goal scorer?

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Glen Murray, Pavol Demitra, Ilya Kovalchuk
Demitra? That's a stretch.

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Quick question for folks here...

I'd like you to simply list how many goals you think Markus Naslund, Ilya Kovalchuk and Mario Lemieux would score a season if they played on Peter Forsberg's wing.
Some people just can't seem to see with two eyes instead of one. Either Forsberg is great and Hejduk is a product or Forsberg is overrated. The mere idea of two great players playing on the same line and feeding off of each other just seems to boggle the minds of some (which is quite ironic for Vancovuer fans).

Until Forsberg retires or Hejduk is traded, people will continue to doubt. Let them be happy in their world and we can continue to be happy in ours, where Hejduk scores some of the more spectacular 'goal-scorer's' goals around.

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He can hit the net from anywhere in the zone, and scores goals at ridiculous angles.
i can too!

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