I must say, I hate Tucker, hes an idiot as a person and as a player, he always whines during games and takes stupid penalties. I don't want him back and I won't welcome him back if anything like that happens. We don't need his presence in the room and we don't need his whining about ice time. Toronto and Don Cherry can keep him and wait for a cup parade that'll never come.
As much as I loved Tucker when he was a hab, I hate him even more now! That was a bad trade that houle did (was it houle or serge savard?) I think it was something like this:
to TBY
Darcy Tucker
Jassen Cullimore
to MTL
Patrick Poulin
Igor Ulanov
but now with Begin I don't think we need a big mouth like Tucker. Not saying that Begin is a big mouth but he brings good energy to the team.
and why would Toronot be interested in Sundstrum, he's the opposite as to what Toronto is and needs.
Tucker takes so many bad penalties and on our team, where do you play him? He'd be a great 4th liner if he stayed out of the box, but would he be satisfied with that after putting up all those points two years ago? If yes, then I'd do it. He's a sparkplug.
We have a few players in the mold of Sundstrom, and to dump his salary would be a bonus even though he is slightly better than the rest of our checking line players (other than Bulis, though he is more skilled).
Sundstrom could actually help Toronto a lot. They have Renberg playing on their first line right now. Their scoring lines badly need some playmaking. I think Sundstrom would look good next to Sundin and someone else. I think Toronto fans are a bit upset that Sundin has become a soft playmaker. This might take the "onus" of playmaking off of Sundin and maybe he'll focus more on scoring and banging.
Of course, they could also use a checking line winger as well.
The main problem I think is that Tucker thinks he is a scoring line player now.
to TBY
Darcy Tucker
Jassen Cullimore
Stéphane Richer
to MTL
Patrick Poulin
Igor Ulanov
Some other crap that never made it
Raketheleaves, do you mean Bulis is more skilled then Sundstrom or the other way around?
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I think Toronto fans are a bit upset that Sundin has become a soft playmaker. This take the "onus" of playmaking off of Sundin and maybe he'll focus more on scoring and banging.
to TBY
Darcy Tucker
Jassen Cullimore
Stéphane Richer
to MTL
Patrick Poulin
Igor Ulanov
Some other crap that never made it
Raketheleaves, do you mean Bulis is more skilled then Sundstrom or the other way around?
The other way around. I think Sundstrom has a lot more skill than Bulis, other than his shot. Bulis is a much better skater, plays with more passion and is much more rugged of course.
I think Sundstrom has a lot more skill than Bulis, other than his shot. Bulis is a much better skater, plays with more passion and is much more rugged of course.
Just to be clear, I would much rather have Bulis.
Oh ok, I personnaly feel that Bulis is more skilled in pretty much every aspect but his playmaking. Sundstrom has some pretty nice passes, but Bulis is 10 times faster and if he could be a little less excited when he gets the puck he would be an even greater asset to this team.
Oh ok, I personnaly feel that Bulis is more skilled in pretty much every aspect but his playmaking. Sundstrom has some pretty nice passes, but Bulis is 10 times faster and if he could be a little less excited when he gets the puck he would be an even greater asset to this team.
I think Sundstrom is much more creative, a better passer, a much smarter hockey player overall. Bulis has a better shot, but he doesn't know how to use it anyway and can't pass or create for the life of him.
He's better on the boards and faster and all that tho, but Sundstrom's boardwork and speed are underrated imho.
Bulis might figure it out one day, he did miss a lot of development time. But I don't see how playing on the checking line is going to help him.
I think Sundstrom is much more creative, a better passer, a much smarter hockey player overall.
Thats what I mean by playmaking .
I'd like to have a new attitude towards our checking line, Juneau and Dackell are near the end of their careers, I really want to see Kilger and Ward with Bulis. Even if it isn't pretty, Ward can skate fast, so that would make a big, fast, physicall third line with some offensive upside and all three can play defense very well. If Kilger doesn't pan out at center, then try switching him with Bulis.
I'd like to have a new attitude towards our checking line, Juneau and Dackell are near the end of their careers, I really want to see Kilger and Ward with Bulis. Even if it isn't pretty, Ward can skate fast, so that would make a big, fast, physicall third line with some offensive upside and all three can play defense very well. If Kilger doesn't pan out at center, then try switching him with Bulis.
I agree 100%. I think that's where we are heading, hopefully, unless Ward or Bulis prove they can be scoring line players...Kilger has a lot to prove though before he can assume a role like that. He certainly has the speed, but I'm not so sure about his agility or his consistency.
He definitely has all the tools, except perhaps the agility and smarts... lol
DO NOT EVER LET A MEGGAT LIKE TUCKER EVERY HAVE THE PRIVILAGE OF WEARING A HABS JERSEY AGAIN! :mad:
HE IS AN EMBARASSMENT TO THE LEAGUE AND A CRY BABY.
to TBY
Darcy Tucker
Jassen Cullimore
Stéphane Richer
to MTL
Patrick Poulin
Igor Ulanov
Some other crap that never made it
Actually, no, that wasn't the trade.
Jassen Cullimore wasn't in that trade at all. The Canadiens placed him on waivers and he was picked up by Tampa a week after they had made a 6-player trade wtih Montreal.
The trade that sent Tucker to Tampa also had the Canadiens moving David Wilkie and Stephane Richer. Coming to the Habs was defenseman Igor Ulanov, winger Patrick Poulin and tough guy Mick Vukota.
I don't know why anyone would want Tucker. Its one thing to have a big mouth towards other players, and its another to have on towards a ref. Shut up and take the penalty, you aren't doing yourself or the team any favours. Does he actually think he can intimidate a NHL ref? Maybe that worked in Peewee hockey with a 14 year old ref, but not in the NHL. I have been quite disappointed with Gary Roberts mouth towards the refs too, I used to have alot of respect for the guy but when the only thing you do consistently is mouth off to refs, as Tucker and Roberts do, its unacceptable.
Can't even consider it without putting aside emotion for the moment.
But let's be serious here. Sundstrom is a defensive player with some decent skills who's languising on the fourth line because he's been outplayed by Dackell. That said, we have to consider that Juneau and Bulis have always liked playing with Dax, so perhaps there's an element of chemistry that supercedes what Sundstrom brings to the table. Now, take Sundstrom's defensive abilities and put it on the Leaf roster where, let's be honest, they are in desperate need of players who can help out that horrid defense. Not a bad fit, in my opinion.
Turn the table and look at Tucker. He's a super-pest who has some serious offensive abilities that are overlooked because of his penchant for being an idiot. I'd go as far as to say he's second line quality for the Habs. And while everyone in the league hates to play against him, I'm pretty certain that, should he don the bleu-blanc-rouge, there would be an immediate about face and a love-in for the repatriated draft pick.
From a pure talent angle, the trade doesn't work for Toronto; they're giving up a little more than they're getting. But when you take out the element of idiocy which would make their team immediately better because of the lesser penalties and lesser division in the dressing room, I think it's a trade that's highly more likely.
Moreover, it's a good fit in Montreal because there's no way on Earth that Gainey is going to let Tucker pull the crap he's been pulling recently, and I think you'd see a return to the feisty, but controlled player who scored rather well a couple of seasons back.
Unfortunately, with Fergie Jr at the helm in Toronto, his first trade is going to have to be more than just getting rid of a headache in exchange for a role-playing defensive forward, and as such, I would expect him to demand a little more, citing Tucker's obvious scoring potential. A mid-round draft pick, say a fifth, would probably make him happy and make the deal palitable for both clubs.
Of course, this is all speculation, because the chances of Montreal and Toronto being trading partners is minimal at best. I can guarantee that the Buds would like pretty much anything inthe world other than facing Tucker five times a year.
