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01-18-2006, 02:56 PM
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Lebreton flats would have been perfect, there is so much open space, the parkway could be 6 lanes if they wanted to make it so. All the extra highways and the overpasses in Kanata were way more expensive then adding onto the parkway.

Its true that the queensway isnt that close but there are plenty of ways to make it accessible.

Haveing traffic comming in from both ways putting it in the center of the city would make travel far easier.

Anyone trying to argue that Kanata/Stittsville compares anywhere close to downtown Ottawa is frankly out to lunch.

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01-18-2006, 03:00 PM
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You're looking at a 25 minute walk MINIMUM.
Walk? In Kanata, we drive.
Actually, I can walk to the rink from where I live. It's a useful option in the fall and spring, but a bit uncomfortable in the dead of winter. That's why I like the bar shuttle. I can catch it from the pub at the corner of my street.

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01-18-2006, 03:03 PM
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Lebreton flats would have been perfect, there is so much open space, the parkway could be 6 lanes if they wanted to make it so. All the extra highways and the overpasses in Kanata were way more expensive then adding onto the parkway.

Think about all the walk up crowds, the extra fan base coming over from Gatineau and the east end. I think the Scotia Bank Place in Kanata was a terrible mistake.

Its true that the queensway isnt that close but there are plenty of ways to make it accessible.
Not only that, but people wouldn't have been rushing madly to get out to Kanata for a weekday game. We could stay downtown, eat dinner and then maybe go out for a drink after. I realize that these are weak examples to use to base where to build a stadium, but it keeps adding to it.

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One of my Senator fantasies involves the rink being in Lebreton. God that would have been excellent.

Imagine being able to walk to all the bars from the game....sigh.
Last time I checked there were no bars at Lebreton

You'd still have to bus it to get there...unless you like a 45 minute walk in the middle of the night in the middle of winter.

Quite frankly, there's nothing wrong with the current location.

I can walk to the CC from where I live too...but it's not fun in winter. I usually get a drive if I need to go there anyway. Or you can park at the park and ride and take the bus...

I've bused from downtown to the CC before...It took about 40 mins when I took the 6:00pm bus from hurdman.

I'm used to commuting to uni every day. 50 mins on the express. It doesn't take that much longer on game night. My friend lives in Orleans and she got home in an hour taking the bus.

People would find something to complain about no matter what, Whiners!

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01-18-2006, 03:07 PM
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Guys, thanks for all the help...this is perfect.

we are staying downtown, so i guess the consensus is a bus to the bars is the way to go. do i need to bus to the bars, then FROM the bars TO the rink? or should i just do the bar scene downtown both before and after?

again, much appreciated.

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01-18-2006, 03:15 PM
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The only people in the whole Ottawa area that believe the Scotia Bank Place is in the right location live in Kanata or further west.

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The only people in the whole Ottawa area that believe the Scotia Bank Place is in the right location live in Kanata or further west.
I don't think people in Nepean have much to complain about either.

If it was downtown people in the west/Kanata/Nepean, and maybe some in Orleans would complain (depending whereabouts the arena was located).

Someone has to bite the bullet and deal with the extra distance. Why not east-enders for a change huh?

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01-18-2006, 03:18 PM
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we are staying downtown, so i guess the consensus is a bus to the bars is the way to go. do i need to bus to the bars, then FROM the bars TO the rink? or should i just do the bar scene downtown both before and after?
Depends on what your "bar scene" is. If you're a cocktail lounger, or clubbing type of person, or a beer in an Irish pub kind of person, or a sports bar kind of person.

Downtown obviously has the highest concentration of bars, if you're looking for variety.

1. There are school buses that run from particular bars (usually sports bars and restaurants) around Ottawa to the game which charge a cheap fee, and will take you back to that bar after the game.

These are designed for people to "park and ride", so they can avoid paying the 10 $ parking fee at the Corel Centre. The trick would be finding one near your hotel or downtown.

I've only ever taken a bar-bus from Terry Fox Drive, which is pretty close to the rink anyway and thus you'd have to take a bus/cab to that bar, jump on another bus, and then repeat the whole process backwards to get back downtown. Someone else might be able to give you direction as to a bar near the downtown core that runs a bus.

2. Alternatively, you could get yourself to the rink by taking public transportation, and then taking it back downtown again after the game.

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01-18-2006, 03:19 PM
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Someone has to bite the bullet and deal with the extra distance. Why not east-enders for a change huh?
Bleh, the west-end gets everything they want.

I used to be an east-ender. Where's our O-Train?

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I don't think people in Nepean have much to complain about either.

If it was downtown people in the west/Kanata/Nepean, and maybe some in Orleans would complain (depending whereabouts the arena was located).

Someone has to bite the bullet and deal with the extra distance. Why not east-enders for a change huh?
Why not even it out? Put it in the middle. So everyone travels the same distance so the fan base is stronger. Not many fans come over from Gatineau at all, and believe it or not the sens fan base is no where close to as strong in east and south Ottawa, Orleans or Gloucester as it is in Ottawa West, Nepean or Kanata.

Plus being close to downtown makes it alot more accesible to the public for the night life after a great game. A great win, look at the red mile in Calgary that will never happen in Ottawa because the arena is way out at the end of the furthest suberb of the city.

I live in Ottawa West the Scotia Bank Place is not that far from where I live but it still makes no sense for the entire city financially and for the fanbase.

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Bleh, the west-end gets everything they want.

I used to be an east-ender. Where's our O-Train?
West enders have the CC! And....well...errrr....that's, like, it. Well, Bayshore isn't too far and that's the best mall on Ottawa currently.

And we would aslo like to know where our o-train is...I bet of they do expand it out west, they'll find a way to screw us over and make it inconvenient. Damn you Octranspo. Damn you!

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Sorry I missed your post, bert. I was out to lunch. But the fact is, trying to pour 20,000 people into downtown Ottawa on the limited streets available, while even more thousands of government workers are trying to get out, is a recipe for total gridlock. A six-lane western parkway and all the associated interchanges? Get serious. That would turn the "parkway" into solid pavement from the river all the way to to the houses to the south. I don't think the NCC's "vision" includes a second Queensway right through all its scenic riverfront parkland, walking trails, bike paths, museum sites etc. Adding one Queensway interchange, at the team's expense, was much kinder to the taxpayer than tearing up downtown Ottawa would have been. It was never gonna happen. Even if the Senators didn't own that one specific site in Kanata, any major new arena was bound to be in the suburbs.

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01-18-2006, 03:33 PM
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QUIT COMPLAINING and be thankful Melnyk doesn't sell the team to Winnipeg and turn the SBP into a casino!

As for turning the Parkway into 6 lanes....duh...it wouldn't be much of a parkway after that would it! Do you realize what kind of re-zoning hullabaloo they'd have to go through to get that done! Would make turning the Queensway into a 12 lane expressway a cakewalk by comparison!

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I said could, i didnt say that they should. Im not complaining, im stating an opinion of the clear obvious. I love this team and I love this city, I wish they were more intertwined. Thats all. The only point im trying to make is that its a raw deal for the residents of the east end and the people on the Quebec side.

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But the fact is, trying to pour 20,000 people into downtown Ottawa on the limited streets available, while even more thousands of government workers are trying to get out, is a recipe for total gridlock.
Of course, you're right!

...

...that is, if you're a MISGUIDED FOOL!

Oh, you poor, poor man, forced to consider only TWO dimensions to this problem.

If only the city had listened. Those MORONS! They thought I was mad, well, I'll show 'em! I'll SHOW 'EM ALL!!! MUAHAHAHAHHA!

Well, I will now accept accolades for my brilliance, the sheer genius of my mass-transit Zeppelin System!

Yeah, that's right, Zeppelins! Fly OVER the traffic. Tether right to the Scotiabank Place. You're in Section 327, row Z? Well, suddenly you have the best seats in the house, since the ZEPPELIN parks right above you.

Plus, nothing outcools a Zeppelin, particularly if you like Led Zeppelin.

Ottawa and Zeppelins. It's like peanut butter and hair spray I tells ya!
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01-18-2006, 05:15 PM
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I'm not likin' the dirty talk on Stittsville around here. Back off.

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The only people in the whole Ottawa area that believe the Scotia Bank Place is in the right location live in Kanata or further west.
Orleans can kiss my Western ***!!!! Where the hell is Orleans anyway?

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Sorry I missed your post, bert. I was out to lunch. But the fact is, trying to pour 20,000 people into downtown Ottawa on the limited streets available, while even more thousands of government workers are trying to get out, is a recipe for total gridlock. A six-lane western parkway and all the associated interchanges? Get serious. That would turn the "parkway" into solid pavement from the river all the way to to the houses to the south. I don't think the NCC's "vision" includes a second Queensway right through all its scenic riverfront parkland, walking trails, bike paths, museum sites etc. Adding one Queensway interchange, at the team's expense, was much kinder to the taxpayer than tearing up downtown Ottawa would have been. It was never gonna happen. Even if the Senators didn't own that one specific site in Kanata, any major new arena was bound to be in the suburbs.
I agree with the nice-guy dictator.

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Yeah, that's right, Zeppelins! Fly OVER the traffic.
Great idea. The only thing better would be one of those go-go-gadget helicopter blades that popped out of Inspector Gadgets hat. Now that's a great idea.

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Great idea. The only thing better would be one of those go-go-gadget helicopter blades that popped out of Inspector Gadgets hat. Now that's a great idea.
I've been wrestling with the problem of having blades made out of a material strong enough to create lift without being structurally compromised while still being able to collapse down into the size of the average person's hat.

My working prototype collapses into a hat that is 7 feet tall, 4 feet wide and weighs 800 pounds.

So I'm going to go with Zeppelins for now. Let's deal with reality, please? As opposed to science-fiction?

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Orleans can kiss my Western ***!!!! Where the hell is Orleans anyway?
Sinking.

And I don't want to swim....

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I live in Orleans

Going to a Sens game requires a rest-station stop.

We should ask for our own hockey team

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The right thing to do would be for an east-ender to offer our American friend a ride to the game. I would, but I conveniently live in the west end.

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I'll be in Mexico.

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I'll be in Mexico.
Orleans, Mexico?

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I've been wrestling with the problem of having blades made out of a material strong enough to create lift without being structurally compromised while still being able to collapse down into the size of the average person's hat.

My working prototype collapses into a hat that is 7 feet tall, 4 feet wide and weighs 800 pounds.
I switched from metal to thermoplastic in '03. I detailed the event in the annual report of 2003 as well. I can get you a copy. The size of the hat is certainly a problem, the only person I've met who can work it, is that cat from the childrens books.

Currently, now in '06, I'm still strengthening neck muscles. I'll keep you up to date. Maybe you can test run the prototype for me.

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Question for you folks.....exactly how far is Nepean from the SBP(remember the new name?)

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Bleh, the west-end gets everything they want.

I used to be an east-ender. Where's our O-Train?
I want a bloody O-Train. North-South is an idiotic idea IMO. East-West is the way to go.

As for the west having a greater concentration of Sens fans, alot of that has to do with demographics and the fact that the Sens are in the West End.

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