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11-03-2016, 11:09 AM
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He shows absolutely zero hustle. Doesn't want the puck. As soon as he gets it he moves it. I'm in the minority here but I'm not impressed at all with him. I haven't seen one play from him where I said "wow that was a nice play"
This is absolutely a ludicrous statement. No hustle? Come on.

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is buch living with someone on the team?

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glad he finally got his first one...he was due.

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glad he finally got his first one...he was due.
Yeah I think he needed that to take some pressure off. Sick shot too.

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is buch living with someone on the team?
Last I heard, he was living in a hotel by the practice facility, and he/his agent was looking for a more permanent living situation.

No updates that I'm aware of.

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Time for Buch to have a Gary Sanchez level impact now. Gary hit his first HR against the Red Sox at Fenway. Buch pots his first goal against the Bruins at TD Garden. Fully expecting Buch to join the 50 in 50 club now.

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He shows absolutely zero hustle. Doesn't want the puck. As soon as he gets it he moves it. I'm in the minority here but I'm not impressed at all with him. I haven't seen one play from him where I said "wow that was a nice play"
Lol @ this ridiculous post. You've obviously not actually been paying the slightest of attention to Buch or your expectations are sky high.

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11-06-2016, 12:49 AM
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Duclair who?

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11-06-2016, 01:14 AM
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Some fans don't even know who our drafted players are until they play their first NHL Game, and thats fine. Not everyone has to follow all these players, but a lot of people just don't feel the same joy as those of us who have followed Buch's career since he was drafted. Some of you guys were not watching terrible internet streams in a foreign language that you don't understand of terrible hockey teams in Russia to watch one player in those games. When there's a payoff for following these prospects, its a prideful moment as a fan. When Shestyorkin plays his first game for the Rangers, it'll be the same way.

The Rangers are a franchise who hasn't historically developed that many of its own players who were very successful for the team, especially the last few years, I take pride in when we develop a player. I like the free agents signings as well, but for some fans, we root more for the players we've been watching develop for years. I'm sure I'm not the only fan who feels this way. To some fans, they are all the same. To others of us, its easier to root for the players you've been watching develop into NHL players for years. Obviously there is one team goal, we want the team to win the Stanley Cup, doesn't matter if the opposing goalie puts the puck in his own net to give us the Stanley Cup, but individually, its just easier to root for certain players, if you've followed their careers since they were drafted.

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11-06-2016, 03:52 AM
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Some fans don't even know who our drafted players are until they play their first NHL Game, and thats fine. Not everyone has to follow all these players, but a lot of people just don't feel the same joy as those of us who have followed Buch's career since he was drafted. Some of you guys were not watching terrible internet streams in a foreign language that you don't understand of terrible hockey teams in Russia to watch one player in those games. When there's a payoff for following these prospects, its a prideful moment as a fan. When Shestyorkin plays his first game for the Rangers, it'll be the same way.

The Rangers are a franchise who hasn't historically developed that many of its own players who were very successful for the team, especially the last few years, I take pride in when we develop a player. I like the free agents signings as well, but for some fans, we root more for the players we've been watching develop for years. I'm sure I'm not the only fan who feels this way. To some fans, they are all the same. To others of us, its easier to root for the players you've been watching develop into NHL players for years. Obviously there is one team goal, we want the team to win the Stanley Cup, doesn't matter if the opposing goalie puts the puck in his own net to give us the Stanley Cup, but individually, its just easier to root for certain players, if you've followed their careers since they were drafted.
That's all nice and well but when all you do is complain about him not playing when the team is winning and scoring tons of goals you look like a 16 year old girl with a crush. This is game 10 or so of his first NHL season. Do you think he'll never play in the top 9? He probably will play there some time this season.

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11-06-2016, 05:32 AM
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Feel like the floodgates are about to open up for Buch. He just needed that one to go in, I think his confidence will be sky high now.

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That's all nice and well but when all you do is complain about him not playing when the team is winning and scoring tons of goals you look like a 16 year old girl with a crush. This is game 10 or so of his first NHL season. Do you think he'll never play in the top 9? He probably will play there some time this season.
When Grabner comes back down to earth (4th line) I expect Buch to get bumped back up. Or when an injury occurs. Or both and Pirri gets bumped up too. The depth is nice and as this season goes along he should climb the roster. By the way isn't AV still managing to get him solid minutes?

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Duclair who?
Loved duclair but you're right looking at the early sample size their is no doubt who is the better player

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The Rangers are a franchise who hasn't historically developed that many of its own players who were very successful for the team, especially the last few years, I take pride in when we develop a player. I like the free agents signings as well, but for some fans, we root more for the players we've been watching develop for years. I'm sure I'm not the only fan who feels this way. To some fans, they are all the same. To others of us, its easier to root for the players you've been watching develop into NHL players for years. Obviously there is one team goal, we want the team to win the Stanley Cup, doesn't matter if the opposing goalie puts the puck in his own net to give us the Stanley Cup, but individually, its just easier to root for certain players, if you've followed their careers since they were drafted.
Huh? I'd argue the exact opposite. If anything, the Rangers draftees have probably outperformed expectations over the last 10 years.


Since 2006:

Sanguinetti 1st round, 45 games played
Anisimov 2nd round, 500+ games played
Hagelin 6th round, 350+ games played
Del Zotto 1st round, 400+ games played
Stepan 2nd round, 400+ games played
Grachev 3rd round, 34 games played
Dale Weise 4th round, 300+ games played
Chris Kreider 1st round, 250+ games played
Roman Horak 5th round, 84 NHL games played
Dylan Mcilrath 1st round 30+ games played
Christian Thomas 2nd round 20+ games played
Jesper Fast 6th round, 100+ games played
JT Miller 1st round, 200+ games played
Brady Skjei 1st round, 20 games played
Pavel Buchnevich 3rd round, 12 games played
Anthony Duclair 3rd round, 100+ games played

That's not factoring in guys that have played in less than 10 games, Cherapanov's death, and a dearth of 1st rounders over the last 10 years. If you've got 3rd, 4th, and 6th rounders playing 100+ games you're doing well.

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11-06-2016, 08:30 AM
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Some fans don't even know who our drafted players are until they play their first NHL Game, and thats fine. Not everyone has to follow all these players, but a lot of people just don't feel the same joy as those of us who have followed Buch's career since he was drafted. Some of you guys were not watching terrible internet streams in a foreign language that you don't understand of terrible hockey teams in Russia to watch one player in those games. When there's a payoff for following these prospects, its a prideful moment as a fan. When Shestyorkin plays his first game for the Rangers, it'll be the same way.

The Rangers are a franchise who hasn't historically developed that many of its own players who were very successful for the team, especially the last few years, I take pride in when we develop a player. I like the free agents signings as well, but for some fans, we root more for the players we've been watching develop for years. I'm sure I'm not the only fan who feels this way. To some fans, they are all the same. To others of us, its easier to root for the players you've been watching develop into NHL players for years. Obviously there is one team goal, we want the team to win the Stanley Cup, doesn't matter if the opposing goalie puts the puck in his own net to give us the Stanley Cup, but individually, its just easier to root for certain players, if you've followed their careers since they were drafted.
Nice speech. May I suggest you enjoy Buchnevich's journey of becoming an NHL player instead of all the dopey complaints about what line he's playing on.

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Do you think he'll never play in the top 9?
Obv.

Look at Kuznetsov's first season. He spent time on their 4th line and he was a better prospect.

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Huh? I'd argue the exact opposite. If anything, the Rangers draftees have probably outperformed expectations over the last 10 years.


Since 2006:

Sanguinetti 1st round, 45 games played
Anisimov 2nd round, 500+ games played
Hagelin 6th round, 350+ games played
Del Zotto 1st round, 400+ games played
Stepan 2nd round, 400+ games played
Grachev 3rd round, 34 games played
Dale Weise 4th round, 300+ games played
Chris Kreider 1st round, 250+ games played
Roman Horak 5th round, 84 NHL games played
Dylan Mcilrath 1st round 30+ games played
Christian Thomas 2nd round 20+ games played
Jesper Fast 6th round, 100+ games played
JT Miller 1st round, 200+ games played
Brady Skjei 1st round, 20 games played
Pavel Buchnevich 3rd round, 12 games played
Anthony Duclair 3rd round, 100+ games played

That's not factoring in guys that have played in less than 10 games, Cherapanov's death, and a dearth of 1st rounders over the last 10 years. If you've got 3rd, 4th, and 6th rounders playing 100+ games you're doing well.
That's also not included Callahan, Dubinsky, Staal, Korpedo, Montoya.

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Loved duclair but you're right looking at the early sample size their is no doubt who is the better player
Problem with Duclair, until he makes changes, is that he only shows up when he feels like it. With Buch, even though he wasn't producing in some of the games, he was still hustling and trying to make things happen. When Duclair isn't on he's invisible.

In terms of overall skill they are probably about on par, but I think Buch will be the better player in the end.

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Problem with Duclair, until he makes changes, is that he only shows up when he feels like it. With Buch, even though he wasn't producing in some of the games, he was still hustling and trying to make things happen. When Duclair isn't on he's invisible.

In terms of overall skill they are probably about on par, but I think Buch will be the better player in the end.
The biggest problem with Duclair is he has one of the lowest shot rates of any forward in the league

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The biggest problem with Duclair is he has one of the lowest shot rates of any forward in the league
That too.. he's way too opportunistic. Doesn't create much on his own

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