I don't care if it ends up 6 weeks, as long as he's completely healthy.. I don't want to see him come back in 4 and play a half assed, perimeter game for another 4 weeks..
Sorry to say, but isn't that the game he plays now? All he does is skate his figure 8's at center ice, collect a LARGE paycheck, and laugh all the way to the bank!
It's sad. He had such potential, and never lived up to it.
I wish him well (just not too well, that'll mean the Rag$ are doing good!).
Sorry to say, but isn't that the game he plays now?
Last season yes, this season thus far, no.. He was being much more assertive on the ice for the few games, but doubtful it'll last when he comes back..
Rucinsky Carter Lundmark
Hlavac Nedved Kovalev
Lacouture Holik Barnaby
Simon Messier Keefe
What do you guys think?
Everyone can slam me all they want but I would put mess in Lindros's spot and make that the second line he has been playing well, at least better then Carter and should be fine for the short term. I would leave Lundmark where he is for now. While we are jugeling lines lets bring Barnaby up with Mess and drop Carter to the 4th for now.
Rucinsky Mess Barnaby
Agreed on Wiseman, but again, wouldn;t want to see him get a call while he's hot, just to play 4mins a night.. If they call anyone up, they better play at least 8...
I agree with you, Davisian. I would *really* like to see Chad get his chance with the Rangers, but I think it's too early. When Chad was called up to the Sharks late last season, he only got to play in 4 games with limited ice time. He's leading the Pack right now, which is very awesome, but only 4 games have been played and I think he should stay in Hartford for a while to get more used to playing there.
I see decent numbers, but what's his game about? Cant he guy skate at the NHL level? He has size and decent numbers, but what's the knock on him? Gotta wonder why a point per game junior guy got drafted #8 with those numbers and that size. Sure that was a few seasons ago, but there's always a reason.
listen fellas lindros being out sucks but messier can handle the minutes for a short time. the alternative of wiseman or rheaume is not better at all. if moore were healthy than i would love to see the rangers give him minutes but he isnt!
I see decent numbers, but what's his game about? Cant he guy skate at the NHL level? He has size and decent numbers, but what's the knock on him? Gotta wonder why a point per game junior guy got drafted #8 with those numbers and that size. Sure that was a few seasons ago, but there's always a reason.
I wonder why he was drafted in the 8th round, too. In his last year of Juniors (2000-01), he was traded from Mississauga to Plymouth and lead the Whalers to the OHL Championship Finals.
I saw Chad play in the two seasons he was in Cleveland. He does put up decent numbers and makes awesome plays. When he plays, he is very focused on the game and what he has to do, and he's always tearing up the ice. He was one of our *best* forwards in Cleveland. I know I've said that before, but it's true. When he was called up by the Sharks back in March, I thought he did a good job even though he didn't get a point. He was only in 4 games with a limited amount of ice time, and I didn't think he was given much of a chance.
I think he can compete at the NHL level, and when he breaks out, he's going to be one awesome player.
I'm all for seeing Moore but calling him up and making him a 2nd line center is a little much. Talk about sink or swim. If you wanna make him a 2nd line winger or 3rd line center then fine, but no way does Moore play center over Mess, Nedved or Holik. I'd do this:
If ya wanna try Moore (if he's even healthy) on the 2nd or 3rd line wing then fine, but I dont feel like seeing him get run over as a 2nd line center getting 20 some odd minutes per night. Let's see him have some success first. Mess is getting like 15 min a night centering a fourth so why not give that to Moore and see if he can work his way into a regular spot. Better yet put him next to Holik on the left side and move Rosie and D-Lac down.
We can also now give the Nedved line more ice time so they can hopefully respond.
They already have Lindros's replacement called up. His name is JAMIE LUNDMARK. Quit trying to use him as a 3rd line checking wing and put him at the position he belongs. After that, call up Sheldon Keefe.
I don't know that moving Lundmark to center is such a good idea. I really think it would depend on where he was going to play after Lindros gets back. And since he most likely will go back to wing, I would keep him there now. I'm all for keeping him on one of the top two lines, but would rather have him play one position rather than shuffle back and forth all season.
I would strongly consider moving Carter to center though, unless Sather is going to abandon the idea of playing 4 lines. If that's the case, then might as well call up someone to play center on the 4th line and kill penalties--we all know afterall that Messier will get the minutes in that case anyway. But if Messier is going to continue in a similar role, then having the top two lines look like this
Hlavac/Nedved/Kovalev
Rucinsky/Carter/Lundmark
Might actually work. Of course, that means Holik needs a new linemate, but Keefe can start out on the 4th line with Messier and Simon or Barnaby can move up to Holik's line.
but he's been on the shelf for a week or so and hasn't played in almost two weeks, I believe. Not sure that in his first couple games back he should be making his NHL debut. Also, if he is in New York, I would not be opposed to him getting 8-10 minutes with Barnaby and Simon. That's not a waste for a few weeks. It slowly gets his feet wet in the NHL.
edit: thank you Brooklyn...I should've looked that up before speaking.
More to the point is why is Rheaume getting the call (presumably) at all?Not overly large, not very fast, and not very aggressive.
There have to be other options other here or in Hartford, no?
I understand your point, we'd all like to see new and fresh legs in the lineup, but I like Rheaume's game, especially as a the 4th pivot with little icetime..
He's just a smart defensive forward who won't do much on the offensive end, but knows his role and does it well..
I'm just saying there's worse options out there, and if whoever is called up is going to sit for long stretches, I'd rather it be someone like Rheaume..
Then again, I'm for plugging in Keefe, and leeaving Hfd alone right now..
I understand your point, we'd all like to see new and fresh legs in the lineup, but I like Rheaume's game, especially as a the 4th pivot with little icetime..
Me too, and in the laast 'Pack game recap I read, Rheaume was give Stals' spot on the top line. The last thing we need is to have meaningful roles taken away from young players at the AHL level by veterans, nevermind the NHL level. Let Rheaume get jerked around here in NY and let the kids keep on playing and learning in Hartford......for now.
Just wanted to add alittle tidbit on the Lindros front.
My friend is an X-RAY tech here in the city and some of his co-workers are the ones who work MSG for the games.
He said that they did the X-RAY and it showed the sprain but that it was a very minor one, something that doesn't warrant close to being out a month and supposively this was said by Feldman but that Carl Lindros felt differently and was going more towards being out the month as oppossed to a shorter period of time.
He said his coworker even said voices started getting raised b/w Feldman and Carl Lindros.
Hopefully the injury isn't that major and he can get back in 2 weeks as oppossed to 4 and I don't think it's that big a deal with Daddy Lindros getting involved.We'll see how it plays out but being that Eric is paid on a per game basis as well as him having to have a monster yr to secure his next contract wherever it may be.
Just wanted to throw it out there and guys can take it for what they want but just as I had posted about Bure 2 days before the papers did about what happened at Feldmans as well as posting about Leetchs setback last week and how Feldman said it would be another month 2 days before the papers reported it so do with it what you will but the story is legit not that it's a big deal.
THE NO. 9 GRAVEY TRAIN
Former Blueshirt Adam Graves is basically out there. He's a free agent and he's back in Toronto with his family, waiting and hoping for a call from some team that feels he can fit with them.
Knowing Adam the way that we all do, we know that he's ready to go, he keeps himself in great condition. We also know that he's a great team man.
It will probably take a little time for things to shake out and, for teams who might incur injuries, to determine whether he can help them out. He can still help a team, but it has to be the right fit. With the economic conditions, teams are being very careful with the way that they spend their money.
I understand your point, we'd all like to see new and fresh legs in the lineup, but I like Rheaume's game, especially as a the 4th pivot with little icetime..
He's just a smart defensive forward who won't do much on the offensive end, but knows his role and does it well..
I'm just saying there's worse options out there, and if whoever is called up is going to sit for long stretches, I'd rather it be someone like Rheaume..
Then again, I'm for plugging in Keefe, and leaving Hfd alone right now..
All I,m saying is why is it impossible for this team to as least give someone like Keefe, or Moore, or Murray at least a taste of what it's like?
With a team that is so shallow to begin with how can it hurt at look at some players from time to time? Regurgitating these same kinds of players drives me crazy.
Or maybe it's simply a case of there being nothing worthwhile in the system to even look at.
