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12-02-2016, 10:29 PM
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Heating up as in going down in flames?

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Heating up as in going down in flames?
Two points in his last three coming into this one.

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Two points in his last three coming into this one.
Stop the presses! He's on fire!!!

We clearly see tonight the rejuvenated Pleky at work!

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Looks like we'll have to wait at least another game until Pleky regains his form. What is it going on now? 100+ games?

Incredible slump, but it is just that... a slump. He'll surely pull out of it! Right?

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Stop the presses! He's on fire!!!
Yeah, that's what I said. "He's on fire..."

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The Scott Gomez edition.
Was going to say, reminds me a lot of Gomez.

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Plekanec is the Titanic and Gallagher and Pacioretty are the passengers.

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It's embarrassing to see plekanec and pacioretty wearing that jersey with letters. Beliveau must be rolling in his grave watching these two gutless clowns

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Pleks needs to score more?

Didn't Therrien say it himself? Plekanec & Mitchell for defence, they are the top two shorthanded; and Galchenyuk & Desharnais for offense, they have the most PP TOI.

Keeping DD over Eller for "3C" set up this situation. And that choice was made because because coach has an irrational attachment to the feckless midget.

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6 million clams for a 4th line shutdown guy

have to at least consider the possibility that Mitchell is better at every facet if Pleks' hands are gone

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You know what stinks about the bandwagon currently running over Pleks on a nightly basis? The guy is a career Hab. He's spent his entire pro career trying to help this team win, even though he was shoved into a role as top center that he didn't really fit. He has spent much of his prime years with terrible wingers at the whim of coaches like Therrien and Martin and he never complained. He didn't say a word when he was worn down over the course of a season by playing four minutes a night on the PK, a well as even strength and PP. When he had his best season with Kovalev on his wing, he didn't get a fat head and pretend he was the second coming of Gretzky. He's always worked hard and been his own harshest critic.

Plekanec has had some really important contributions to this team over his years and if he's in his mid thirties and slowing down now, it's natural that he should be given less responsibility and used in different situations. It's not his fault the stupid GM gave him too much money for a diminishing role. And it's not his fault that the organization, led by the same GM, has failed to draft, develop, trade for or sign a suitable replacement, even when the dumbest poster on here could see it was going to become an issue eventually.

Pleks isn't Beliveau, but he's a loyal, lifetime Hab who has done his best for the team with the talent he has. He deserves better than to have his whole legacy ignored by fans who only see his current struggles to score.

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You know what stinks about the bandwagon currently running over Pleks on a nightly basis? The guy is a career Hab. He's spent his entire pro career trying to help this team win, even though he was shoved into a role as top center that he didn't really fit. He has spent much of his prime years with terrible wingers at the whim of coaches like Therrien and Martin and he never complained. He didn't say a word when he was worn down over the course of a season by playing four minutes a night on the PK, a well as even strength and PP. When he had his best season with Kovalev on his wing, he didn't get a fat head and pretend he was the second coming of Gretzky. He's always worked hard and been his own harshest critic.

Plekanec has had some really important contributions to this team over his years and if he's in his mid thirties and slowing down now, it's natural that he should be given less responsibility and used in different situations. It's not his fault the stupid GM gave him too much money for a diminishing role. And it's not his fault that the organization, led by the same GM, has failed to draft, develop, trade for or sign a suitable replacement, even when the dumbest poster on here could see it was going to become an issue eventually.

Pleks isn't Beliveau, but he's a loyal, lifetime Hab who has done his best for the team with the talent he has. He deserves better than to have his whole legacy ignored by fans who only see his current struggles to score.
Well said.

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12-03-2016, 03:50 PM
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You know what stinks about the bandwagon currently running over Pleks on a nightly basis? The guy is a career Hab. He's spent his entire pro career trying to help this team win, even though he was shoved into a role as top center that he didn't really fit. He has spent much of his prime years with terrible wingers at the whim of coaches like Therrien and Martin and he never complained. He didn't say a word when he was worn down over the course of a season by playing four minutes a night on the PK, a well as even strength and PP. When he had his best season with Kovalev on his wing, he didn't get a fat head and pretend he was the second coming of Gretzky. He's always worked hard and been his own harshest critic.

Plekanec has had some really important contributions to this team over his years and if he's in his mid thirties and slowing down now, it's natural that he should be given less responsibility and used in different situations. It's not his fault the stupid GM gave him too much money for a diminishing role. And it's not his fault that the organization, led by the same GM, has failed to draft, develop, trade for or sign a suitable replacement, even when the dumbest poster on here could see it was going to become an issue eventually.

Pleks isn't Beliveau, but he's a loyal, lifetime Hab who has done his best for the team with the talent he has. He deserves better than to have his whole legacy ignored by fans who only see his current struggles to score.
Plekanec playing like crap and has been for awhile, this isnt a time to talk about his legacy or his place in the pantheon of the Montreal Canadiens.

He sucks right now, that's just the truth...there will be plenty of time after his career is done, to be nostalgic, right now, he should be judged for how he's playing now, just like every other player on this team is.

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12-03-2016, 03:51 PM
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Well said.
You've really reached the bottom of the barrel if you're co-signing that post.

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Plekanec playing like crap and has been for awhile, this isnt a time to talk about his legacy or his place in the pantheon of the Montreal Canadiens.

He sucks right now, that's just the truth...there will be plenty of time after his career is done, to be nostalgic, right now, he should be judged for how he's playing now, just like every other player on this team is.
I think there's somewhere in between what you're saying and what crystal ball wrote. Well, not even in between; rather, the two aren't mutually exclusive thoughts.

I suppose I haven't read enough of your thoughts on the matter, but are you proposing that the team trade Plekanec? Hope that he's taken in expansion (and if not, then what?)? Buy him out? Or just limit his ice time?

I think crystal ball's point is legitimate overall though: developing a strong organisation requires, in my mind, a culture. Having players like Plekanec and Markov are good for that: players who work and don't complain. Plekanec can be a good role player, even if his skills have diminished. He needs to be employed in that way, but he still can perform in that regard. I think you would agree with that. And I think you'd probably agree that maintaining continuity with such players is generally positive. Tell me where I'm wrong here, though.

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Plek in my opinion is not done , his line played much better the last 2 games, i expect them to break out of this slump soon.....but he is not worth 6M on the cap, good news is its only 2 years
At this stage, it's one year too many...

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You know what stinks about the bandwagon currently running over Pleks on a nightly basis? The guy is a career Hab. He's spent his entire pro career trying to help this team win, even though he was shoved into a role as top center that he didn't really fit. He has spent much of his prime years with terrible wingers at the whim of coaches like Therrien and Martin and he never complained. He didn't say a word when he was worn down over the course of a season by playing four minutes a night on the PK, a well as even strength and PP. When he had his best season with Kovalev on his wing, he didn't get a fat head and pretend he was the second coming of Gretzky. He's always worked hard and been his own harshest critic.

Plekanec has had some really important contributions to this team over his years and if he's in his mid thirties and slowing down now, it's natural that he should be given less responsibility and used in different situations. It's not his fault the stupid GM gave him too much money for a diminishing role. And it's not his fault that the organization, led by the same GM, has failed to draft, develop, trade for or sign a suitable replacement, even when the dumbest poster on here could see it was going to become an issue eventually.

Pleks isn't Beliveau, but he's a loyal, lifetime Hab who has done his best for the team with the talent he has. He deserves better than to have his whole legacy ignored by fans who only see his current struggles to score.
Quoting/co-signing for extra truth.

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Plekanec is the Titanic and Gallagher and Pacioretty are the passengers.
The problem is Bergevin has lifeboats available with Gallant on the market but Therrien is the only one in a boat laughing.

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Personally, I've been saying its been gone for a while...it's just he was getting more prime opportunities to score goals/points, he's not getting nearly as much anymore (which still doesn't excuse his putrid output the last 100 games).
You and I m8, you and I. I salute your bravery for the endless debates. I gave up a long time ago.

We should have traded him 3 years ago. We would have gotten our 2nd center. He would be 21-22 years old as well. Instead, we'll have to invent another Radulov-like thief to have ANY hope at it.

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Quoting/co-signing for extra truth.
Melo-dramatic much.

This is pro sport. Grow up!

Trade them early, recycle their asset value, win. Fail to do so, never catch a wave(leafs), lose.

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He's done as an offensive player in the NHL.

Last year, before he got the extension, his stats were inflated by a bunch of empty net goals and he scored a few by throwing it at the net from the goal line in the corner and having it bank in off the goalie. Goalies caught on and that didn't work anymore and his stats have plummeted.

And I'm a fan of his. It's just father time has taken his offense. Nothing he can do about it.

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Melo-dramatic much.

This is pro sport. Grow up!

Trade them early, recycle their asset value, win. Fail to do so, never catch a wave(leafs), lose.
If you draft well enough to not ever need free agents ever, sure. I mean, Playstation management works on Playstation, so why not real life, right?

Answer: because in real life loyalty, continuity, and professionalism matter, and if you actually made a strict habit of trading every player away by age 30 so as to avoid every possible "down year" any player could ever have, you'll never attract anyone from outside your organization. Ever. No 30 year old Radulovs would sign with teams who show veterans such little respect.

And not only is this a player who filled his role for below market value for years, he also remains our best defensive forward to this day, and seems to be playing exactly how his coach asks/expects minus the actual finishing of chances. But yeah, you, 417, and PaulD can chest bump and ******* each other through this thread if you like now that there's actually(/finally) a bit of blood in the water to get you worked up.

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