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Hopefully we get some good looks at Bruins prospects over this week. I'm still looking to find out if Zenyshyn was cut from Team Canada or not. I liked Dom's analysis of his set-play game (spring the centre up, who hits ZS flying up the wing) and I am hopeful he finds his two-way game.

edit: Finally found the roster for today's game; I'm guessing Senyshyn was cut.

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Hopefully we get some good looks at Bruins prospects over this week. I'm still looking to find out if Zenyshyn was cut from Team Canada or not. I liked Dom's analysis of his set-play game (spring the centre up, who hits ZS flying up the wing) and I am hopeful he finds his two-way game.

edit: Finally found the roster for today's game; I'm guessing Senyshyn was cut.
Zach Senyshyn of the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds got the bad news from Hockey Canada brass shortly after the teamís 8-0 victory over the Czech Republic in a pre-tournament game.

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Hopefully we get some good looks at Bruins prospects over this week. I'm still looking to find out if Zenyshyn was cut from Team Canada or not. I liked Dom's analysis of his set-play game (spring the centre up, who hits ZS flying up the wing) and I am hopeful he finds his two-way game.

edit: Finally found the roster for today's game; I'm guessing Senyshyn was cut.
Yeah...he was one of last picks..I'm surprised Dubois (CBJ) was picked over him and Sam Steel

Dubois with 6 goals in 20 games
ZS 17 goals in 25 games
Steel 23 goals in 25 games

puzzling...

Boston has 5 guys...Lauzon..Vladar...Zboril...McAvoy..Lindgren

Philly leads with 9 and Bruins tied for 2nd with their 5

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Yeah...he was one of last picks..I'm surprised Dubois (CBJ) was picked over him and Sam Steel

Dubois with 6 goals in 20 games
ZS 17 goals in 25 games
Steel 23 goals in 25 games

puzzling...

Boston has 5 guys...Lauzon..Vladar...Zboril...McAvoy..Lindgren

Philly leads with 9 and Bruins tied for 2nd with their 5
Wow, philly with 9.

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Luke Green traded from the Sea Dogs, this will undoubtedly give Zboril even more ice time. In recent weeks, rumblings about him requesting a trade outta there as evidenced by the link I have below although denied by his agent

Not our prospect, but will directly affect our boy Zboril IMO
http://thechronicleherald.ca/sports/...een-to-phoenix

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Mr odaat, how many times have you seen him this year? What has the "perceived" issues of attitude been like reported in local media? Thanks

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Mr odaat, how many times have you seen him this year? What has the "perceived" issues of attitude been like reported in local media? Thanks
Seen him play zero times live this year Wobbly, the only trip the Sea Dogs made down here was early in the year and I believe he was with the Jets camp at that time.

Was speaking to an ex colleague who was also a tix holder here in Halifax who`s now calling St John home and has embraced the new team with tix.

He has only "speculated" on what he thinks and that is that Green is being pushed out by Chabot coming back from the Sens camp hurting his ice time combined with the fact that Zboril has played "exceptionally well" all season, his words not mine, he`s no Bruins fan, in fact, another misguided Hab fan who told me hands down, Zboril has been the most consistently solid D-man all year, Chabot and Green will get the most ink as there is little flash to Zboril`s game

So my "inside connection" is strictly a fan/friend who is very knowledgeable and has played the game at the US Collegiate ( studied at Clarkson) level himself who relayed simply his opinion, not something based on a conversation with someone in the organization

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Several Seadog games have been carried by the local cable network provider in New Brunswick. Zboril took on much more of a offensive role when Chabot was still with the Senators early in the year. He ran with it and had very good success. Upon Chabot's return he transitioned to more of the shut down/defensive role he had played in the past without any problem. He is still occasionally paired with Chabot, at times on the PP. Continues to deliver his stellar all round play for a team that has quickly returned to being one of the top teams in the Q this season. His contributions have played a big part in bringing that about.

Green was said to be disgruntled with being stuck behind the top two D-men and wanted a chance to show more of his offensive game. He can at times be a liability defensively. Not sure how he will be used with his new team but offence contribution is his strength. SJ did get a good return for him with a first and 2 second round draft picks.

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How about that 2014 draft? Honestly didn't think much of their choices but

Pasta continues to be our team's most dangerous scorer
Donato's stat-line at Harvard looks good
Heinen is hovering around a PPG in the AHL and definitely benefitted from playing in the NHL even if he wasn't productive
Bjork is currently 6th highest scorer in NCAA hockey
Johansson is doubling his point totals playing in a men's league as a D man

I definitely underrated the quality of players we got here until recenty

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How about that 2014 draft? Honestly didn't think much of their choices but

Pasta continues to be our team's most dangerous scorer
Donato's stat-line at Harvard looks good
Heinen is hovering around a PPG in the AHL and definitely benefitted from playing in the NHL even if he wasn't productive
Bjork is currently 6th highest scorer in NCAA hockey
Johansson is doubling his point totals playing in a men's league as a D man

I definitely underrated the quality of players we got here until recenty
Just goes to show when drafting its not about what the kid has done... but entirely about what he might do

And even when you do it right it still fails more often than it succeeds

And even when it succeeds above the average rate of success... fans will still complain because some other kid with no future has a big night playing in front of 900 fans in some little Canadian town this Saturday

As I think about the hype around some of our guys... krecji got hype as a special k... but what happen to karsums and kalus?

Bergeron came out of nowhere

Rask got hype... so did Kyle wanvig and Hannu toivonen

Joe Thornton and serge samsonov Certainly got hype... Zach hamil didn't get much nor did Kevyn Adams or Shawn Bates

Ivan Huml And Cameron Mann were darlings here of the hype

Anthony camera had his huge supporters

I personally was hyping Lars jonsson and Martin samuelsson

But lucic And marchand didn't get a lot of support when I hype them

Sometimes junior success can indicate nhl success... but a lot of times it doesn't

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Interested to see what others think of Jakub Zboril.

The picture that I'm seeing painted in various places is of a player with all of the tools needed to be a successful NHL defenseman, but also of a player who consistently gets in trouble trying to do too much - i.e. not maintaining positional discipline, trying to do too much with the puck, etc.

That's actually not too bad... you can work with someone who has all of the physical tools, but consistently makes mental mistakes.

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Interested to see what others think of Jakub Zboril.

The picture that I'm seeing painted in various places is of a player with all of the tools needed to be a successful NHL defenseman, but also of a player who consistently gets in trouble trying to do too much - i.e. not maintaining positional discipline, trying to do too much with the puck, etc.

That's actually not too bad... you can work with someone who has all of the physical tools, but consistently makes mental mistakes.
I think his skating ability alone will net him a job at some point. The kid has some of the most natural skating ability from a Bruins D prospect I've ever seen. I've read in other places that stylistically, he's similar to a James Wisniewski, a guy who can skate, move the puck and put up decent point totals, and surprise you with his physicality. I think Zboril has the tools and talent to be a good 2nd pairing dman. IMO I don't see a top pairing guy. While it's still way to early to write him off of being one, I just don't see the swagger of a number 1 or a top pairing guy.

All in all, I think he'll make the NHL and land a 2nd pairing role at some point down the line. With internal options ahead of him on the left side currently ( Chara for another year or more, Krug, Morrow is still around, O'Gara and Gryz looking promising ) there's no rush. Out of the three guys we got in the first round, I think he'll take the longest road to the NHL.


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Lauzon with a goal and assist in Canada's 5-0 win.

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I think they've been killing the draft the last few years and it's starting to show. I was skeptical at the time of many of the picks but they've all done their part to prove my skepticism wrong to this point in time. I honestly can't say I'm disappointed with the progress of any of our recent picks

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Interested to see what others think of Jakub Zboril.

The picture that I'm seeing painted in various places is of a player with all of the tools needed to be a successful NHL defenseman, but also of a player who consistently gets in trouble trying to do too much - i.e. not maintaining positional discipline, trying to do too much with the puck, etc.

That's actually not too bad... you can work with someone who has all of the physical tools, but consistently makes mental mistakes.
My take is that he lacks pace. His movements his thinking, it's... I don't know. Sluggish is not the right word but it's like he lacks a sense of urgency until the **** is actually hitting the fan and then he raises his compete level and tries to make the best of it. But if he played with that urgency all the time he would't get in trouble in the first place.

I don't know. The talent is there. Maybe it's just a small sampling but that impression also spans two development camps, and it's why I consistently rank him lower than most.

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I think his skating ability alone will net him a job at some point. The kid has some of the most natural skating ability from a Bruins D prospect I've ever seen. I've read in other places that stylistically, he's similar to a James Wisniewski, a guy who can skate, move the puck and put up decent point totals, and surprise you with his physicality. I think Zboril has the tools and talent to be a good 2nd pairing dman. IMO I don't see a top pairing guy. While it's still way to early to write him off of being one, I just don't see the swagger of a number 1 or a top pairing guy.

All in all, I think he'll make the NHL and land a 2nd pairing role at some point down the line. With internal options ahead of him on the left side currently ( Chara for another year or more, Krug, Morrow is still around, O'Gara and Gryz looking promising ) there's no rush. Out of the three guys we got in the first round, I think he'll take the longest road to the NHL.
Good stuff Veddar- nice synopsis

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I think his skating ability alone will net him a job at some point. The kid has some of the most natural skating ability from a Bruins D prospect I've ever seen. I've read in other places that stylistically, he's similar to a James Wisniewski, a guy who can skate, move the puck and put up decent point totals, and surprise you with his physicality. I think Zboril has the tools and talent to be a good 2nd pairing dman. IMO I don't see a top pairing guy. While it's still way to early to write him off of being one, I just don't see the swagger of a number 1 or a top pairing guy.

All in all, I think he'll make the NHL and land a 2nd pairing role at some point down the line. With internal options ahead of him on the left side currently ( Chara for another year or more, Krug, Morrow is still around, O'Gara and Gryz looking promising ) there's no rush. Out of the three guys we got in the first round, I think he'll take the longest road to the NHL.
I recently moved to SJ and have caught a few SeaDogs games so far, although only two with Zboril. I have to agree with VeddarRants comments.

The SeaDogs are pretty deep on the blue line. With Green gone, Zboril can take more minutes in more situations. It will be interesting to see how he handles it, especially with SJ looking to make a deep run.

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My take is that he lacks pace. His movements his thinking, it's... I don't know. Sluggish is not the right word but it's like he lacks a sense of urgency until the **** is actually hitting the fan and then he raises his compete level and tries to make the best of it. But if he played with that urgency all the time he would't get in trouble in the first place.

I don't know. The talent is there. Maybe it's just a small sampling but that impression also spans two development camps, and it's why I consistently rank him lower than most.
That first line sort of describes the 3 grenade handlers we have on the B,s.
He should fit right in!

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Senyshyn with 2 tonight, gives him 10 goals and 2 assists in last 5 games.

Soo Greyhounds are now a whopping 16-3-0-0 on the road

also 10-0-0-0 when ZS9 scores a goal

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Senyshyn with 2 tonight, gives him 10 goals and 2 assists in last 5 games.

Soo Greyhounds are now a whopping 16-3-0-0 on the road

also 10-0-0-0 when ZS9 scores a goal
Would you say there is a difference between how he is playing now vs the beginning the year? Not that he's producing now vs then, but more how he looks on the ice.

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Interesting to note: In his latest blog, Kirk thinks that both McAvoy and JFK will sign pro deals at the end of their BU season.

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Would you say there is a difference between how he is playing now vs the beginning the year? Not that he's producing now vs then, but more how he looks on the ice.
Yes. He wasn't up to game shape. I know people don't like using injury/illness as an excuse, but it is what it is.

Senyshyn (after the mono) missed two weeks with an appendectomy. Got back on the ice to soon IMO and wasn't in shape. Compare it to Gabriel Vilardi in Windsor (who is projected as a top 5 pick in the draft) missed 5 weeks with the same appendectomy. Returned tonight with 2 goals and 2 assists. Took his time coming back.

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