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Carey Price - MVPrice is back

View Poll Results: What's Price's problem?
He's hurt 19 8.92%
He's having confidence problems 22 10.33%
His team D is letting him down 26 12.21%
He's bored 18 8.45%
He's sick of supporting the coaching staff 46 21.60%
He's beginning an inevitable physical decline 17 7.98%
It's a slump, chill out. 65 30.52%
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01-14-2017, 04:53 PM
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I think its hard to acknowledge because there is so much invested in the "The team is nothing without Price" narrative that has been built up these past 5 years. Admitting that maybe Price isn't always the best player in the world and sometimes his teammates have to bail him out goes against that narrative. It goes against all the things said about the other players and managers in the organization.
Realizing that Price is only an average goalie will be a very tough pill to swallow for a lot of people who have been drinking the medias an organisations kool-aid that they are serving us for the past 8 years

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01-14-2017, 04:54 PM
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Does anyone have any statistical information on how the Canadiens defence is in front of Price?

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Realizing that Price is only an average goalie will be a very tough pill to swallow for a lot of people who have been drinking the medias an organisations kool-aid that they are serving us for the past 8 years
I think Price deserves his praise he has done a good job for the team; but we as habs fans are notriouse homers.

If Price played on another team he would get the same snickers and sneers that other goalies like Rask/Bishop/Holtby/Dubnyk get. Those guys are always downplayed on this board saying how they aren't as good as Price yet they are right up there with their numbers and have better playoff stats (except for maybe Dubnyk).

Price is part of the upper echelon of goalies, but even his superman season (2014) is being matched right now by Dubnyk/Bob/Holtby this year. So yes Price is a top goalie but he isn't a cut above his peers.

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01-14-2017, 05:13 PM
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Price is looking forward to spend with his wife and new born baby.

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01-14-2017, 05:14 PM
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I dont see what this false saying has to do with Price?

Rads/Max/AG/Byron/Plek/DD/Mitchel/Markov/Beau/Petry these guys are grinders with no skill?

Habs probably have one of the least amount of "grinders" in the NHL.
Sarcasm meter man, gotta take that to the mechanic...

I was obviously reffering to the MT statement.

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01-14-2017, 05:35 PM
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Sarcasm meter man, gotta take that to the mechanic...

I was obviously reffering to the MT statement.
Ohh, I see what you did there.

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01-14-2017, 06:04 PM
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This thread makes my head hurt. Price is only an average goalie? He is being used to much?

How about this - he is in a slump, like all players go through. He has been average for 8 weeks...big deal.

This board is so quick to write players off - 6 weeks ago Patches was a bum, guys are questioning if Gallagher is done, Weber goes 10 game without a point and the nancies come out of the woodwork.

ALL players go through slumps, some even have full down years. Remember when Selanne was washed up? Roy used to be very streaky and had downright bad stretches in the regular season. Top players go 20-25 games playing poorly all the time, and usually revert back to the mean. That's what happened with Patches and that's what will happen with Price. And for that matter Gallagher.

Same goes for ****** players that go on a run, they almost always revert back. How is DSP doing in Jersey? Remember Rene Bourques quick start this year in Colorado? 3 points in his last 20 games. Bums will be bums and guys like Price will be awesome for years to come, save a bad stretch here and there.

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This thread makes my head hurt. Price is only an average goalie? He is being used to much?

How about this - he is in a slump, like all players go through. He has been average for 8 weeks...big deal.
I have a hunch that his slide is due to the Habs defence being atrocious and unlike 2014, Price isn't bailing them out.

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01-15-2017, 01:15 AM
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he really needs the rest, yikes. i thought he was over his weak mental phases but apparently hes not..

if i was him i'd fake an injury to miss the all star game, go ride horses or something mate.

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01-15-2017, 01:29 AM
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People mad because he isnt playing like 2014-2015... It was arguably a top-5 ever season by a goaltender.

Ofc he wont do that til you die.

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01-15-2017, 01:31 AM
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2010-2011: 72GP - 38wins - 2.35 - 923%

People seems to forgot he was amazing that season... but nah lets say he was just good 2014-2015.


In 2013-2014, 59 games, 34wins, 2.32, and 927%

THATS BAD

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01-15-2017, 01:32 AM
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Oh and lets not act like Johnson, Hanley, Barbeiro and Redmond arent garbage.



Oh and that Weber hasnt been really good same time as Price and that Markov is hugely underrated and Pateryn was better than all the scrub named above.

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People mad because he isnt playing like 2014-2015... It was arguably a top-5 ever season by a goaltender.

Ofc he wont do that til you die.
i dont want him to play like 2014-2015, i want him to have a higher save % than .900 (in over a month of play).

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01-15-2017, 05:29 AM
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It's something mental. He's almost guaranteed to have a fantastic game tonight, we'll all be like "how did we ever doubt Carey", then he'll either let 2 goals in in the last ten minutes or be a funnel in his next start.

It's beyond frustrating watching him right now, absolutely zero compete from him
He had a fantastic game alright

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2010-2011: 72GP - 38wins - 2.35 - 923%

People seems to forgot he was amazing that season... but nah lets say he was just good 2014-2015.


In 2013-2014, 59 games, 34wins, 2.32, and 927%

THATS BAD
Price's career so far has been ups and down - the first three years he played about 150 games of mediocre hockey then doing enough to win the staring job in the 10/11 year you mention. Over the next two years he almost losses that starting job by putting up 2.43 and .916% in 11/12 followed by 2.59 and 905% in 12/13 both those years were near average or below average numbers - habs win the division in 12/13. In 13/14 he has a great year, top 4 or 5 goalies in the league, followed by 14/15 in which he is lights out - he doesn't play the next year and has been only slightly above league average over 30 plus games this year 2.34 and 921% - my concern as Habs fan is that his period of greatness - the last 4 years or so is only about 150 games ans he's trending down pretty hard over the last 16 games - he may turn it around by the end of the year, he should play about 30 more games.

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01-15-2017, 09:05 AM
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There's a reason goalies numbers go up after leaving Habs. If anything this stretch shows how much he's covered up. His play dips below godly, suddenly team defense looks horrendous.

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01-15-2017, 09:25 AM
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There's a reason goalies numbers go up after leaving Habs. If anything this stretch shows how much he's covered up. His play dips below godly, suddenly team defense looks horrendous.
I really don't think you have much of a sample size to go on there. The defense and the goaltending aren't doing each other any favours right now.

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01-15-2017, 09:40 AM
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I really don't think you have much of a sample size to go on there. The defense and the goaltending aren't doing each other any favours right now.
It also has something to do with the quality of the shots because the Habs D gave up the fewest shots per game in the league in December and Price put up a sub .900 SV% in addition to GAA getting close to 3.

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This thread is like walking into the Twilight zone. Will be funny to read it again in a few months. This is Montreal though, fans have the memory of a peanut.

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I really don't think you have much of a sample size to go on there. The defense and the goaltending aren't doing each other any favours right now.
This is the correct answer. Defense is putrid and Price has been off. It's an ugly combo.

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This is the correct answer. Defense is putrid and Price has been off. It's an ugly combo.
That being said we are 6-2-2 in our last 10, have a 9 point lead on top of the division and are only 2 points out of top spot in the conference... havering a top 5 offence does have it's benefits.

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This is the correct answer. Defense is putrid and Price has been off. It's an ugly combo.
I think the Habs have proven that even with all the injuries and sub par play in net, they are still a playoff team.


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Martin Leclerc making a good point here http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/...l-a-seffondrer

Many players from Team Canada are struggling this year: Vlasic, Pietrangelo, Getzlaf, Perry, Bergeron, Price, Muzzin...

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I'd be a lot more concerned if he was playing like this since the start of the season. But he came back from that layoff better than ever. The guy had a .950 going into December and even after over a month of pretty brutal numbers he's still sitting at .921 on the year which would actually be a pretty great year for most goalies.

The guy didn't just forget how to play hockey and father time hasn't caught up to him. He might be hurt or distracted but even if he finsishes this year in a sub par way he's still a superstar and I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater here. Give him time to recover and let's see how it goes.

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I just think he's fatigued. He missed 70 games last year and was thrust right into top competition. December/January hits and it goes to ****, likely because of workload (14 games in December which included the Christmas break) and now 7 games through the first 14 days of January.

I think it's strictly fatigue related which is to be expected after missing pretty much an entire season and being thrust right back into the thick of things and pacing 60+ starts.

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