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02-01-2006, 01:40 AM
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San Jose / Tampa Bay

Nabokov (or Toskala + pick) and Erhoff

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Boyle, Fedotenko and Tarnasky


What you guys think?

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Nabokov (or Toskala + pick) and Erhoff

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Boyle, Fedotenko and Tarnasky


What you guys think?
Toskala and a pick, take out Ehrhoff, and remove Tarnasky from ur side, and its done.

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Toskala and a pick, take out Ehrhoff, and remove Tarnasky from ur side, and its done.
make it nabokov+pick+ehrhoff for boyle and richards and its even more done. ok, that's wishful thinking, i know.

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Tampa DEFINATELY would NOT trade Boyle for Toskala... And to be honest... I can't see Boyle for Nabokov...
They are similar age and compensation (Nabokov is slightly higher I believe)... But the problem is, Boyle is a very important part to our team, he is the D-Man that really sets everything up... And I really don't see it fair asking for a one of our top six forwards as well?

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We've seen Tampa without Boyle, and it's not pretty. A deal involving him makes me cringe.

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We've seen Tampa without Boyle, and it's not pretty. A deal involving him makes me cringe.
Tampa without Boyle = San Jose.
Now you know why we are asking for Boyle. There is no point in the Sharks moving Nabokov unless they get a point man for the PP or an offer that may be too good to pass up - like Richards.

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I see no sane reason why Tampa would make a deal like this.

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I see no sane reason why Tampa would make a deal like this.

Tampa does not have championship goaltending. If they consider Nabokov or Toskala to be at that level then it would be worth considering. It might be easier for them to acquire a Leetch or Gonchar to replace Boyle than find anothwer goalie.

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Tampa does not have championship goaltending. If they consider Nabokov or Toskala to be at that level then it would be worth considering. It might be easier for them to acquire a Leetch or Gonchar to replace Boyle than find anothwer goalie.
Our goaltending has been performing fine lately. Our problem has been putting the puck into the net.

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A John Nabokov for Pavel Kubina type deal would make the most sense in terms of value and club needs.

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A John Nabokov for Pavel Kubina type deal would make the most sense in terms of value and club needs.
not for TB.

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not for TB.
How's that?

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not for TB.
Sure it would. I'd rather move him than Boyle, that's for sure. Tampa's goaltending is OK for now, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade for the future. Kubina has a tendency to make really high contract demands, so I wouldn't be shocked to see him go elsewhere in the off-season anyway. Losing him for the playoffs would suck, and I'm not sure who would replace him, but this isn't a completely outrageous idea and is much better for Tampa than moving Boyle.


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Sure it would. I'd rather move him than Boyle, that's for sure. Tampa's goaltending is OK for now, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade for the future. Kubina has a tendency to make really high contract demands, so I wouldn't be shocked to see him go elsewhere in the off-season anyway. Losing him for the playoffs would suck, and I'm not sure who would replace him, but this isn't a completely outrageous idea and is much better for Tampa that moving Boyle.
Agreed...especially if some other deal involving Grahame for a 3rd pair d-man could be arranged.

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Agreed...especially if some other deal involving Grahame for a 3rd pair d-man could be arranged.
I'd get in on that action.

Nabby and Rob Davison straight or Jim Fahey and a return of their 4th in 2006 to TB.

Kubina and Grahame to SJ.

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so Tampa would rather give up Kubina than Boyle?

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so Tampa would rather give up Kubina than Boyle?
Actually, I am confident that we wont have to give up either.

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Actually, I am confident that we wont have to give up either.
I'm not too sure about that myself. Something's gotta give, Kubina is a pain to negotiate with, had to go to arbitration, didn't like his arbitration award, which then got rolled back, etc. It's been a tough negotiation every time his contract has been up, which I find kind of odd for someone who so clearly loves it here, but that's the business I guess. He's going to want quite a raise this summer, and I'm not completely sure he'll get it here. My $.02

As for Boyle, there's no reason, financial or otherwise, for us to give him up. He is far from perfect, but this team seems to really suck when he's not in the lineup.

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I think the Lightning are going to go for the repeat and let whatever happens with Kubina happen in the offseason. I also think if they HAVE to move Richards, they would do so in the offseason. No sense in making big moves during the season when the team is starting to turn its game around.

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How's that?
Depending on his contract status I don't think Tampa can afford to get any weaker on the blueline.

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As for Boyle, there's no reason, financial or otherwise, for us to give him up.
I know a perfectly good reason, it would help my stress level/blood pressure.

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I am a huge Kubina supporter... so I say to trading Kubina...

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I know a perfectly good reason, it would help my stress level/blood pressure.
Yeah, I was going to make a crack about how much you love him, but I restrained myself.

Anyway, speaking of a trade between these two teams, check out the 2nd item from today: http://spectorshockey.tripod.com/spe...e_rumours.html

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It really is rare that I (being a Sharks fan) see a proposal on this board involving Sharks that I would do. Even proposals involving other teams that aren't totally biased in favor of whatever team the thread-starter supports are rather uncommon.

Add the fact that this proposal improves both teams based on their needs and I think we have a pretty good proposal here, so I commend you MrNickles.

I'd do this one for Kubina or Boyle, for what its worth.

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I am a huge Kubina supporter... so I say to trading Kubina...
I stuck with Kubs through thick and thin. When fans booed him for any reason what so ever. I enjoyed him hoisting the Cup as much as Captain Dave. But I'm a Bolts fan 1st and as Sotnos said, something has to give. I'm not looking to trade anyone, but IF someone were to go, it might make sense for the team as a whole. Boyle is strangely a core player. He just fits.

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