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10-22-2003, 09:00 AM
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Kovalchuk is a monster

Went to Bolts vs. Thrash game last night. Visiting parents, if anyone's wondering . Kovalchuk is looking scary these days. I have not seen anybody so dominant since Mario (flame away!).

Every time he was on the ice, the crowd held its collective breath. Aside from everything we already know (speed, strength, skill, desire, etc.) -- his passing was phenomenal. There was one little pass he made that was SO SLICK, my jaw dropped. The Thrashers didn't convert, but still... And while I wouldn't call him a Selke candidate just yet (understatement of a year), his defense is actually decent now. He is maturing into an amazing player.

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The next question is:

When will Kovalchuk become world´s best hockey player?

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In the next 2 or 3 years. Or whenever Forsberg or Lidstrom leave the NHL. He is certainly top 3, in my opinion, as far as dangerous players in the NHL.

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The next question is:

When will Kovalchuk become world´s best hockey player?
Well he's already the NHL's best player through two weeks.
That's a start.

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I wouldn't rush to conclusions just yet he could be this years Gaborik and fade, but i think his ceiling is waaay higher than Gaborik and he'll net around 50 this year.

 
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I wouldn't rush to conclusions just yet he could be this years Gaborik and fade, but i think his ceiling is waaay higher than Gaborik and he'll net around 50 this year.
That makes no sense at all, Gaborik is still a freakishly amazing player just because he isn't playing now doesn't mean anything.

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That makes no sense at all, Gaborik is still a freakishly amazing player just because he isn't playing now doesn't mean anything.
I think he's referring to last year when Gaborik lit it up for the first half of the season but then slumped in the second half.

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Well he's already the NHL's best player through two weeks.
That's a start.


Maybe when he learns to play defence, or scores an even-strength goal, we can call him the best.

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Aside from everything we already know (speed, strength, skill, desire, etc.) -- his passing was phenomenal.
Those of us who actually have watched him ever since he came in the league already knew that.

And have said so repeatedly.

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Maybe when he learns to play defence, or scores an even-strength goal, we can call him the best.
I think what makes Kovalchuk different is the MEAN STREAK in him that you really pick up on when you see him in person. You CANNOT itimidate this guy. He's got to learn what Hartly wants from him on defense so he stays on the ice for 25 minutes a game. If he stays out there he's going to rack up some BIG numbers. He got one last night and had another clang of the post. So far he's knocking enough people around that he plays a lot. I hope he maintains that ice-time. And he may not be playing the best right now on the Thrashers.......Mark Savard has been awesome.

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Those of us who actually have watched him ever since he came in the league already knew that.

And have said so repeatedly.
Funny how people have ignored it for so long, hmm? Kovalchuk is an incredible passer. The one on I saw on the hilites last nights (through the legs to McEachern) just goes to show.

But what I think people will be most surprised in him is his fire, his tenacity, and his pure desire to win. He has an Yzerman-like desire in him, but much more firey. Very unique player.

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Damn straight Kovalchuk has fire. A Maurice Richard comparison wouldn't be too far off the mark.

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This guy's such a stud. I also heard he dropped 20 pounds this offseason. Used to be 240 pounds and now is around 220.

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IMO he is right now the most exciting player in the NHL. I would pay to see him more than any other player in the NHL.

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I've predicted kovalchuk to win the rocket richard. Sure off to a great start.

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This guy's such a stud. I also heard he dropped 20 pounds this offseason. Used to be 240 pounds and now is around 220.
240??? That's ******* heavy!!! I mean 220 is still extremely heavy for a guy who should use his offensive skills and not his physical skills!

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Kovalchuk's fire and desire are what make him so great. He's not one of those guys with all the talent in the world and no desire. He has it, and the accident this year has fuelled it. He's been absolutely phenomenal thus far. I can't wait to see how he plays over the full season...and he's only 20!

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Kovalchuk and Heatley are easily the two best under-25 players in the world. I'd venture to say they both might be in the top 5 or 7 overall. Don't overlook this one fact though. Who was Heatley's centreman from January on last year when Heatley's numbers started going through the roof? Who is Kovalchuk's centreman this year? Kovalchuk was just voted player of the week in the NHL, and is leading the league in goals(and nearly points). Answer: Marc Savard. Savard is easily the least talked about "elite" player in the NHL. If you watch him exclusively, for an entire game, you will see all the great intelligent outlet passes he makes. He sees the ice as well as anyone, and has Gretzky-like playmaking ability. (No I'm not comparing Marc to Gretzky...there was and only will be one Wayne Gretzky). I watched him throughout his junior career and the two things I've noticed he hasn't utilized from there to the Pro's is: He has a cannon of a slap-shot that he rarely uses, and he would make unbelievable passes to team-mates using the angles off the boards. I'd love to see him use these skills regularly in the NHL.
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Went to Bolts vs. Thrash game last night. Visiting parents, if anyone's wondering . Kovalchuk is looking scary these days. I have not seen anybody so dominant since Mario (flame away!).

Every time he was on the ice, the crowd held its collective breath. Aside from everything we already know (speed, strength, skill, desire, etc.) -- his passing was phenomenal. There was one little pass he made that was SO SLICK, my jaw dropped. The Thrashers didn't convert, but still... And while I wouldn't call him a Selke candidate just yet (understatement of a year), his defense is actually decent now. He is maturing into an amazing player.

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I liked some of the moves Button made in Calgary, but Savard for RUSLAN ZAINULLIN? What a horrible move, Iginla would be far more consistent with Savard still centering him IMO.

Speaking Gaborik slumping in the second half, who was it that got flamed for calling him to score 30 goals after he had 21 through the first half?

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Well he's already the NHL's best player through two weeks.
That's a start.
Ziggy... the player of the month... may have something to say about that!

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Who was Heatley's centreman from January on last year when Heatley's numbers started going through the roof? Who is Kovalchuk's centreman this year? Kovalchuk was just voted player of the week in the NHL, and is leading the league in goals(and nearly points). Answer: Marc Savard.
No, Patrik Stefan has been Kovalchuk's center this year. Savard centers Kozlov and McEachern.

Savard gets power play time with Kovalchuk, however, but Ilya plays on the point in man-advantage situations.

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Savard hasn't been centering Kovalchuk's line.

Stefan has.

Now there are some rare occurences where they've been out there on the same line, but no more than Kovalchuk has been out there with Randy Robitaille as his center.

I'm not counting power play time in this, since Ilya's been playing the point on the pp.

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