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02-03-2017, 02:19 PM
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Connecticut making pitch for Islanders to Hartford

http://www.wfsb.com/story/34421877/c...e-ny-islanders

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No, this cannot be correct

Only Canadian cities are vultures for struggling US based teams

In all seriousness, in the event the Isles can't get a good arena in NY, does a renovated XL Center make better sense than a renovated Nassau. Later, previous wouldn't be operated by the landlord that may be kicking them out of their current home.


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I want this to happen mainly for the fact we would hopefully see one of the greatest sports logos of all time again.

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This will be interesting to keep an eye on. Smart move by the city.

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It's not a bad idea in principle for Hartford to court the Isles, but I don't see them moving from their current unstable arena situation into a 42-year-old building with a "plan" to do upgrades but nobody willing to pay for it.

Writing a public letter/press release, rather than moving forward with a plan to finance the arena, smells like a politician grandstanding for votes rather than doing the much harder work of bringing a team to town.

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"The Hartford-New Haven television market is the largest in the country without a professional sports team."

I get that they likely meant "major league" here...but the Hartford media doesn't realize they not only have a professional hockey team, but one that already calls the XL Center home? Yes, this is a pipe dream but you'd think the article would at the very least mention the Wolf Pack, who would likely be displaced should such a move happen.

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interesting

won't happen though. the civ is not a suitable venue for the NHL and the upgrades really won't change much anyways

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As a Connecticut native and Islanders fan, yes please.

Malloy is likely just doing this for PR, though. The XL Center is trash and I can't see a new NHL building going up or even NHL quality renovations unless NYI would commit there on the interim, and I can't see NYI going there unless NHL quality renovations are put in place before they go there.

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It's not a bad idea in principle for Hartford to court the Isles, but I don't see them moving from their current unstable arena situation into a 42-year-old building with a "plan" to do upgrades but nobody willing to pay for it.

Writing a public letter/press release, rather than moving forward with a plan to finance the arena, smells like a politician grandstanding for votes rather than doing the much harder work of bringing a team to town.
Someone is eventually going to have to pay for something when it comes to the Islanders. They either construct a new place using a good portion of their own money, they renovate the place in Hartford, or they lose $X every game playing in a tiny arena without suites.

Hartford seems like a decent option, even with required upgrades.

Could the Isles keep their TV money train coming if they moved to Hartford? Would MSG still want them on the network if they're in Connecticut?

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Islanders already have a presence in Connecticut, Bridgeport is owned by them are they not?

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Someone is eventually going to have to pay for something when it comes to the Islanders. They either construct a new place using a good portion of their own money, they renovate the place in Hartford, or they lose $X every game playing in a tiny arena without suites.

Hartford seems like a decent option, even with required upgrades.

Could the Isles keep their TV money train coming if they moved to Hartford? Would MSG still want them on the network if they're in Connecticut?
I'm sure a relocation would void the TV deal. They would have no claims to the NY market - the Rangers and Devils would have no reason to allow them to share it.

MSG could theoretically bid on the new deal for the team within their own TV territory.

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The process is applying for relocation and then it going to a vote. Right?

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I'm sure a relocation would void the TV deal. They would have no claims to the NY market - the Rangers and Devils would have no reason to allow them to share it.

MSG could theoretically bid on the new deal for the team within their own TV territory.
On the other hand, MSG is who the Sabres use too, so it isn't like they're tied into the NYC market only. In fact, I think there could be an argument to be made that MSG would be for this, since it would expand their geographical footprint.

To go to back to your point though, MSG probably considers western CT to be an important part of Rangers territory, so some of the footprint expansion would be mitigated by that.

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Before we start laughing at the idea--I knew a few guys from Hartford and there is a strong fan base there that want hockey back--is there enough support for NHL hockey?
That is another story

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I'm sure a relocation would void the TV deal. They would have no claims to the NY market - the Rangers and Devils would have no reason to allow them to share it.

MSG could theoretically bid on the new deal for the team within their own TV territory.
Remember, the same people who own the Rangers own the tv station. If they think it will help ratings on LI, they might go for it. Not sure they would take the attitude of, "No, now they can watch the Rangers games." Not even Dolan is naive enough to think the Isles fans are all of a sudden going to start watching the Rangers. Think they'd be more likely to give up the NHL altogether. If anything, it would be the league and national rights holders who would have a problem. They'd want the people on LI buying center ice and game center if they want watch the Whalanders.

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By the way, that article is riddled with errors. Someone mentioned the pro team issue. Also,

"The Barclays Center in Brooklyn recently ended its relationship with the NHL franchise."

No they didn't. And,

"They are currently sixth in the Eastern Conference with a record of 22 - 17."

You mean Metropolitan Division.

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Before we start laughing at the idea--I knew a few guys from Hartford and there is a strong fan base there that want hockey back--is there enough support for NHL hockey?
That is another story
The number of hurdles necessary to clear before we get to the question of fan passion is pretty large. I don't think Hartford's arena is in much better shape than Nassau is. Honestly think the league would do Quebec City before Hartford if the team is indeed going to move.

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Hartford seems like a decent option, even with required upgrades.

Could the Isles keep their TV money train coming if they moved to Hartford? Would MSG still want them on the network if they're in Connecticut?
If they move to Hartford the RSN that would go after them in a big way is Comcast-New England which was their former TV home as FOX Sports NE. The Whalers enjoyed the same TV footprint as the Bruins and the Bruins allowed Whalers games into Massachusetts so the Bruins could still beam into Connecticut. CSN-NE only has the Celtics and adding the Whalers would allow them to charge more to be carried. They would probably allow MSG to beam Rangers games into Connecticut but not the Devils.

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Someone is eventually going to have to pay for something when it comes to the Islanders. They either construct a new place using a good portion of their own money, they renovate the place in Hartford, or they lose $X every game playing in a tiny arena without suites.

Hartford seems like a decent option, even with required upgrades.
I don't disagree, but in this case you have a couple of politicians sending this open invitation for all the public to see, while refusing to pay for the arena costs.

This is very much a move designed for public consumption. "Look, we're trying! Someone should definitely come up with the money to pay for this!" But not very heavy on commitments or specifics on how it would work.

I doubt the Islanders take any of this seriously unless they see assurances on paper that an NHL-quality arena will be ready by 2019.

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Remember, the same people who own the Rangers own the tv station. If they think it will help ratings on LI, they might go for it. Not sure they would take the attitude of, "No, now they can watch the Rangers games." Not even Dolan is naive enough to think the Isles fans are all of a sudden going to start watching the Rangers. Think they'd be more likely to give up the NHL altogether. If anything, it would be the league and national rights holders who would have a problem. They'd want the people on LI buying center ice and game center if they want watch the Whalanders.
The league who would redraw the map the second they are moved. MSG doesn't have a choice here, it's out of their hands.

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The good news is that Islanders have choices. Hartford, Quebec,Nassau, and even just staying in Brooklyn(which people reckless neglected).

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By the way, that article is riddled with errors. Someone mentioned the pro team issue. Also,

"The Barclays Center in Brooklyn recently ended its relationship with the NHL franchise."

No they didn't. And,

"They are currently sixth in the Eastern Conference with a record of 22 - 17."

You mean Metropolitan Division.
I saw that too. Likely someone who hasn't paid attention to the base story. You see a lot of that unfortunately in TV news. We have a little of that from time to time on the Seattle Arena issue here in the Northwest, hence why there is really only one go-to reporter in this market from the TV side of things for coverage of this topic, and you've seen his reporting in that thread here in these forums.

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Man, just think if Hartford gets a club again and Quebec City has to sit there wondering if their chance will ever come. But regardless good on Hartford for trying. Can't knock em for it

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