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02-11-2017, 03:10 PM
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Fleury would be a bit of a risk. He has a good track record, but he's 0.906 this season and will be 33 next season. They run the risk of having another year or two of very expensive, sub-par goaltending in Dallas. Still, they might not have many options. If Hellebuyck can't carry the mail, it makes more sense for the Jets to splurge on a goalie because they don't have much tied up in goalie salary after this season.

In any case, Dallas has to do something because they have been worse than the Jets this season and this is the prime of their core players' careers. Next season they'll have >$33M in salary cap space tied up in their top-3 forwards (Benn, Seguin and Spezza) and their goalies. That squeezes the rest of the roster, and they are in "win now" mode.
They also lose Sharp, Oduya, Eaves, and Hudler - if they can't re-sign them. They don't have the cap space to do anything. Could be some lean years in Dallas, and a warning to the Jets that goaltending can undo the top end talent that you have.

We talk a lot about Maurice being the next coach to go but I would put money on Willie Desjardins in Vancouver. That team seems to lose a lot of games in the final few minutes. Not to mention their top scorer is nowhere to be seen when they pull Miller for the extra man this afternoon.

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02-11-2017, 05:11 PM
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It is indeed concerning. Outside of the first and second rounders (so Roslovic, Connor and Comrie), there really aren't any players that appear to have much of an NHL future. Maybe De Leo?

To me, this is where the Sutter pick and giving up a second for Setoguchi have really hurt us. I realize you're not going to get guys like Petan with all second round picks, but at minimum you're hoping for someone who's contributing on the farm and still has an outside shot an at NHL career.

I think we're all going to get a bit of a rude awakening when we do the prospect rankings this summer, specifically how barren our pool is outside of the top 5.
That Seto 2nd rounder is going to haunt us. Players from 2nd and 3rd that year just starting to turn pro this season. In a couple of years these guys will start playing in the NHL and we will longingly look at them thinking we could have had them.

Giving up a 2nd for Seto was so dumb, how did they not do their homework on him? I remember the day the trade was made Holden or someone else was pooping on the trade talking about Seto's off-ice issues. If a random fan was aware of his off ice problems how could the Jets have not known or cared? I'd be another thing if he was waiver claim or they spent a late round pick on him, but to give up a premium asset for a player with major off-ice issues is bizarre. Esp when they were all about "character guys" at that time.

Things are not looking good for the Jets. Unless big changes are made, 3 years from now the Jets are gonna look a lot like how the Moose look as guys like Enstrom, Buff age out and if Trouba still wants out and is moved

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02-11-2017, 09:06 PM
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Evander with 2 more tonight, up to 18!

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Dallas is going to have a bunch of cap space after this season, and I expect that they are going to go on a UFA spree to try to build around their core. Their competitive window is pretty much right now, but they've had a disappointing season. They are likely going to have to overpay to build that roster through free agency, but don't have much choice.

I think they would be unwise to try to load up this season. Like the Jets, they are really not that close to being a playoff team. Ideally, they should be sellers rather than buyers.
Nill made the same mistake Chevy did at the end of the 14-15 season. Decided to blow up a winning roster to guarantee spots to unproven youth. Chevy did it with his forwards, Nill did it with his excellent D-corps. Nill should have known better.

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You think they were playing in Pittsburgh when the Penquins tied up the game in Arizona with 14 seconds left in the game. That was some cheer. And now there are a lot of sad Penquin fans as they loose in OT.


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Evander with 2 more tonight, up to 18!
love seeing Kane succeed just to **** off the haters. getting close to 30 in '11.

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You think they were playing in Pittsburgh when the Penquins tied up the game in Arizona with 14 seconds left in the game. That was some cheer. And now there are a lot of sad Penquin fans as they loose in OT.
Lose in OT to the Yotes with Burmi setting up the game winning goal!

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Nill made the same mistake Chevy did at the end of the 14-15 season. Decided to blow up a winning roster to guarantee spots to unproven youth. Chevy did it with his forwards, Nill did it with his excellent D-corps. Nill should have known better.
And Nill still hasn't fixed their goaltending. Also, the deadline trade for Russell was a real head-scratcher.

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And Nill still hasn't fixed their goaltending. Also, the deadline trade for Russell was a real head-scratcher.
Atleast he tried to actively fix their goaltending, whether it succeeded is another question. Nill is not perfect, he was one of the better GMs in the league but has been overtaken by Chayka, Yzerman and Treliving. This summer will be big for him, I fully expect him to pull off some miracles and have the Stars be a top team in the west again next season

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Atleast he tried to actively fix their goaltending, whether it succeeded is another question. Nill is not perfect, he was one of the better GMs in the league but has been overtaken by Chayka, Yzerman and Treliving. This summer will be big for him, I fully expect him to pull off some miracles and have the Stars be a top team in the west again next season
Chayka still has to prove he can turn the team around. They are so young but he has acquired talent the biggest test is if he can get the right people around those kids to turn them into a good team before contracts take their toll.
Yzerman has done really well, especially for a former player.
Treliving has built a solid team that needs aexperience and a few more pieces to take that leap.
Nill has failed at a lot of the things we give Chevy flack for. Bad defence and bad goaltending. His fixes for goaltending although he tried were failures and that hangs on him. Their injures didn't help.

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Smith openly complaining how bad the ice is in Arizona. Ice in a desert slushy? Imagine that.


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Evander with 2 more tonight, up to 18!
For an 82 game season he is on pace for 52 pts - 33 goals. He's finally giving Buffalo what they paid for.

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For an 82 game season he is on pace for 52 pts - 33 goals. He's finally giving Buffalo what they paid for.
In retrospect, maybe we traded the wrong guy in that little locker room tiff.

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In retrospect, maybe we traded the wrong guy in that little locker room tiff.
No, we didn't. Also, Kane is a UFA after next season. He would never re-sign, and his trade value is going to be dampened by his off-ice issues.

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No, we didn't. Also, Kane is a UFA after next season. He would never re-sign, and his trade value is going to be dampened by his off-ice issues.
Never look back, the right move was made pertaining Kane and with all probability a few more need to be made.

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In retrospect, maybe we traded the wrong guy in that little locker room tiff.
Do you mean to suggest we should have bundled Buff with Kane instead of Bogo?

I still miss on ice Kane. Don't miss off ice Kane one bit.

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Do you mean to suggest we should have bundled Buff with Kane instead of Bogo?

I still miss on ice Kane. Don't miss off ice Kane one bit.
Trading Bogo was also the right move, all things considered.

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No, we didn't. Also, Kane is a UFA after next season. He would never re-sign, and his trade value is going to be dampened by his off-ice issues.
Buffalo would be wise to trade him before next season. He still has some term and is having a relatively good season. I don't know what he would be worth at the TD but it may be the peak of his trade value. I don't think he is much more likely to stay in Buffalo than he was to stay in Wpg.

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For an 82 game season he is on pace for 52 pts - 33 goals. He's finally giving Buffalo what they paid for.
As the trade teeters back in the Sabre's favour!

Kane was by far the best PK'er we have ever had!

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LA puts Setoguchi on waivers, does anyone claim him

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As the trade teeters back in the Sabre's favour!

Kane was by far the best PK'er we have ever had!
Frolik was better IMO but it's close.

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As the trade teeters back in the Sabre's favour!

Kane was by far the best PK'er we have ever had!
You really think he resigns there? They will need to trade him or lose him. That's when we'll see who won the trade, as by then we will also know about Myers health and where roslo Lemieux stand. And what Sabres get in trading him.

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love seeing Kane succeed just to **** off the haters. getting close to 30 in '11.
I miss him on the Jets. He brought passion to the ice no matter the situation.

Not that the locker room left it in Chevy's hands anyway.

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I miss him on the Jets. He brought passion to the ice no matter the situation.

Not that the locker room left it in Chevy's hands anyway.
I too always enjoyed his on ice effort no doubt

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