Holding onto Carlo and signing Shattenkirk instead of giving away great assets for an overrated declining Landeskog is an even better idea.
all in the same lineup sounds amazing to me. Let's make sure that McAvoy doesn't bust and that Chiller doesn't regress before we trade away the one seemingly stable defenseman going forward in our lineup. If we can get another piece like Shattenkirk next year THEN we can think about trading away dmen for forwards.
Landeskog is 24 years old. Your greatest assets are D prospects. At a point you need to trust your scouting and make a move to improve team. I like Carlo alot. Landeskog could be a game breaker if he gets into a groove on that second line. Re stacks the pecking order and could be a great deal. Alot of ifs. We shall see what happens.
Seems like an opportunity for both teams to complete a variety of objectives. For Boston, build for now and the near future, fill a few holes (LW,LD,Backup G), while also moving on from some things that aren't working and providing a change of scenery for others.
Leaves Belesky, Killer & McQuaid exposed for Vegas
That's way too many moving pieces. And now Chara is all the sudden going to play his off side and we're going to take Colorado's 3rrd D to play a top pairing. And we have like 25 games left. The back-up goalie is going to see what, 5 games? Khudobin stays and is exposed to Vegas because you have to.
sure it sounds good. but you also have to look at the comparison of (1) a deal that is on the table and agreed to from both sides to (2) the risk of Shattenkirk not signing here, which is extremely possible.
I think with Miller coming along well lately and the other good D prospects we have, one may have to go eventually.
So if Shatty doesn't sign, McAvoy busts or takes longer than expected, and Chiller declines (or even just tops out as an offense first #4), losing the stabilizing presence of a Carlo on the back end is not made up for by the addition of a declining 2nd line winger who would likely fit best with our 3rd line center.
Landeskog is just a flashy name that isn't worth the hype.
Wow. Lots of stuff being thrown around here today. Panic in Bruins nation. If there is one thing I have learned trolling these boards for years, it's that we all do not get it correct always. Did anyone even have a sniff last year that it was Liles and Stempniak coming Boston's way at the deadline? I can tell you I do not recall anyone on here calling that correctly.
Yeah, something is up here (Sakic and Sweeney letting the press see them together) for sure, but has Sweeney not gone on the record saying that Carlo is not available? Did he change his mind? Gabriel Landeskog?
43G, 11 Goals, 11 Assists, 22 Points (-17). Yes, I know he is on a bad team, but his production is not that good this year.
This guy will not fetch as much as Duchene. Yes I know his career stats are fairly good.
I have always thought the price for GL is an established NHL Defenseman, Prospect and First Round Pick. Maybe Sakic sees the light as no other team would offer more?
Chiller? and.... (prospect not named Carlo or McAvoy) plus the First in a weak draft? I do not do Carlo for GL. The Av's would be getting more than you think with Carlo. Young, cost controlled, lots of potential. The cost control would be something in the Bruins favor. Could have been scouting Spooner as well?
The B's have to trade one of Chiller or K. Miller or they lose them in expansion. This deal does not go down until Sakic attends the BU Harvard Beanpot final tonight. Worried that it may be JFK. No to Carlo. No to McAvoy. McAvoy only goes for Mackinnon. Good Defenseman with potential are hard to find.
I think the trade is in the Bruins favor. Teams want prospects because they do not have to be protected in the expansion draft. They have more value than they normally would and the B's are loaded with prospects.
What if Bruins management think they have the RHD set for the next ten years with McAvoy and Miller? I see Carlo and Miller both as #3-4 guys respectively but the age difference and the 'shiny new toy' of Carlo makes him more valuable.
Again, when the glitter fades from Carlo and he is still a great #3-4 guy, do people regret not moving him for a guy like Landeskog when Miller perhaps is getting more minutes on that right side and Carlo is in his sophomore slump paired with Kevan Miller on the third pairing as he continues to develop (you know, like how Colin Miller has had to go through since coming here?)
You are on fire right now.
I think Carlo's projection is that of a 2/3. If he hits the high end of that, maybe you lose the trade. If he hits the mid-range or lower, I think you feel OK about it. If you feel (like I do) that Colin Miller is showing enough to get some more minutes and be a 2nd pairing d-man, and you also have McAvoy in the wings, its not crazy to take the risk... especially given that, in the long run, you won't be able to afford McAvoy, Carlo and Colin if they are all top 4 guys. Would I want to add a lot to Carlo? No. Would I want to make sure I get a short term solution like Beauchemin or Tyutin in the deal? Yup. Do I make the trade? If I think I am buying low on Landy, YES. I'm just not sure if that is the case.
First off, I think Carlo will be better than Boychuk. That being said, the problem is trading Carlo will create another hole (a big one) and it's not Carlo for Landeskog, but Carlo++ and I'm not willing to do that.
Yup I agree.Sweeney needs to be really careful here
I like Cehlariks game in his very brief stint. Seems calm under pressure too, and a good fit with Krejci's style of play. Vatrano also warming up. Krejci and Backes scoring. I'm not so sure a move for Landeskog is the right play here. Left side dman seems to me the obvious hole.
O2N, we've been fooled far too many times these last couple years during these winning streaks into believing that they had turned a page...only to see the scoring dry up and the defense falter under pressure and fatigue.
There's more reason and evidence to suggest they come back from the break with the current roster and fire off 4 losses in regulation than there is to suggest the winning streak continues.
Adding now to a team (imagine telling Landekog he is going to Boston, but beforehand he should take a week off with his family and get situated in Boston and enjoy the break).
In fact, telling any new acquisition that they have the week off to get acclimated to Boston or go on vacation and meet the team in San Jose is a fantastic way to bring a new player in.
Intersting overview from Zach Leach of ProHockey site on the pieces to work with on both sides. He sees the B's prospects a little differently than most when considering the current B's roster and how some prospect pieces would fit in to fill needs in the not to distant future.