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Vermette Ejected For Slashing Ref (upd: suspended 10 games, upheld after appeal)

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02-14-2017, 10:14 PM
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Don't think he'll see a suspension, but could easily see a fine.
It was way worse then what Wideman did

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02-14-2017, 10:15 PM
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What a complete pinhead. What the heck was he thinking?

Man, he never would have gotten away with this in the old days. Back when I was playing, the officials' bench would have cleared, the goal judges would have come over the boards, and the whole officiating crew would have pounded the hell out of him.

Game's turned into friggin' badminton, I tell ya...

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I don't think the refs hand out the supplemental discipline.
In abuse of officials situations like this they do, as Ducks DVM quotes the rules a few posts above. It's part of the NHL Rulebook.

That decision by the officials can be adjusted up or down later by the league or PA grievance.

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What amazes me is that a player can nearly kill another player and only get 3-5 games. But if there is a fight and you step off the bench or brush shoulders with the refs, you can get 10-20 easily.

Now don't get me wrong, those are all punishable offenses. Rightfully so. It's just that there is a huge difference in how the league protects the refs vs. the safety of its players.

And it's knowing how they can easily throw the book at a guy for touching a ref that makes what Vermette did even more crazy. Doesn't matter which way they were leaning in regards to calls. Doesn't matter if it was a tap. You just DON'T touch a ref. Period. Everybody knows that! You can say that the ref had it coming. That's fine. But you better hope it was worth it, because now one of your players is done for a while.

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The linesman deserved it. What an atrocious game from the stripes.
Get a grip.

Your team isn't the only one that's been on the wrong end of atrocious officiating. If that's your criteria for "deserving it", we wouldn't have anyone to officiate this league.

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02-14-2017, 10:16 PM
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Remember when Carcillo was just trying to shake away from the linesman and got 10 games for abusing the official? This was 10x worse than that.

It's honestly shocking to see an NHL player do something like this.


Only reasoning I can see is that he wasn't trying to hurt the linesman, he was more whacking at him to get his attention. Still, completely ridiculous on Vermette's part.

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02-14-2017, 10:17 PM
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I'm curious to see who gets suspended longer, this or Nyquist. Keeping in mind that it's a different NHL department handing out the suspension.

I'm betting this play here, but I've been wrong before. I will say that Nyquist was much worse, on that I'm sure we can agree.
Absolutely. I think the Nyquist play was much worse, but there is a different precedent. Recently, we saw what Duncan Keith got. Depending on how you view it, it could be less or more, but that is the number I'm guessing they work around.

I expect Vermette to get 10. As frustrated as he was, and as bad as the officials were, you can't do what he did, and there are no extenuating circumstances. He gave the ref a bit of a smack, and that's that. Nyquist, based on the Duncan Keith precedent, I expect to get around 6-8. Maybe 5, based on his history, and if the NHL actually agrees that his stick hitting the glass impacted the results(I don't agree, but I'm not them), but that's about as conservative as I'd go.

As much as the DoPS has been inconsistent, and frustratingly so, the NHL needs to make sure players can't take a poke at the officials. They need to come down hard on those types of responses, so I expect Vermette's punishment to be worse. I just wish the NHL was a bit more serious about protecting their players too.

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Get a grip.

Your team isn't the only one that's been on the wrong end of atrocious officiating. If that's your criteria for "deserving it", we wouldn't have anyone to officiate this league.
Hyperbole is not in hibernation.

But seriously, he deserved it.

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It was way worse then what Wideman did
Ridiculous. It was nowhere near as bad. He gave him a slap on a padded area.

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It was way worse then what Wideman did
Wideman concussed a guy.

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It was way worse then what Wideman did
Wideman is a lot worse I think.

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Hyperbole is not in hibernation.

But seriously, he deserved it.
Deserved worse. Vermette didn't get his money's worth on that one.

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My feeling is that Vermette gets 10 games.

There's just too much ambiguity on the "intent to injure" part, and the league doesn't want another mess like the Wideman incident. 20 games, while potentially justified, probably doesn't get accepted without an appeal from Vermette and the Ducks.

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Don't think he'll see a suspension, but could easily see a fine.
How? According to these rules this is clearly a category II offence (10 games.)

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/w...eman-incident/

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02-14-2017, 10:21 PM
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Pretty obvious it was intentional by Vermette. I would guess it gets him either the 5 or 10 game suspension, don't think he escapes with the 3 game suspension.

If the refs want to make a statement, then I think he gets 10. If they're feeling merciful, then he'll get 5.

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02-14-2017, 10:22 PM
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It was way worse then what Wideman did
Well that's just silly Wideman threw a legit cross check, but nevertheless Vermette should sit for 10 games on this one.

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He'll get 10 games for whacking. And deservedly so.

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I see 10 games incoming

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dude you gotta lose your balance a bit like galchenyuk before you do that, idiot

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Pretty obvious it was intentional by Vermette. I would guess it gets him either the 5 or 10 game suspension, don't think he escapes with the 3 game suspension.

If the refs want to make a statement, then I think he gets 10. If they're feeling merciful, then he'll get 5.
It's 3, 10 or 20. (Appeal can lower it but those are the automatic numbers)

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Yep. Vermette must've been real cheesed about the lack of calls going our way.

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02-14-2017, 10:29 PM
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It's 3, 10 or 20. (Appeal can lower it but those are the automatic numbers)
Ah, I thought there was a 5 in there as well. Then he'll get 10.

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10 games for sure, 20 games if they are feeling mean.

What an absolute moronic play.

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