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Oscar Klefbom is tied with Faulk, Jones, and Green in 2nd place for 5 on 5 goals

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02-15-2017, 03:01 PM
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Oh please, they are pretty much equal. Brodin was playing lights out before his injury, and our team defense has taken a huge hit since he's been out.
Brodin has closed the gap a bit, but he's still behind Klefa

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Klefbom is great. Better than Larsson.

But I'd hold your horses on "just behind Brent Burns" in the OP. Klefbom et al have 7 even strength goals. Burns has 18.
There's a big difference between just behind and behind just.

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Nobody knows about him? What rock have you been living under?

He's already a borderline #1 imo.

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Adam Larsson should get some credit for Klefbom's play. Knowing you have a guy that can clean up your mistakes if something goes wrong really helps offensive Defensmen like Klef.

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There's a big difference between just behind and behind just.
You're right, that's my bad.

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Adam Larsson should get some credit for Klefbom's play. Knowing you have a guy that can clean up your mistakes if something goes wrong really helps offensive Defensmen like Klef.
It's amazing how every single thing that goes right for the Oilers gets attributed to Larsson in some way. Klefbom was this good last year, before he had Larsson.

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02-15-2017, 03:19 PM
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The Brodin / Klefbom thing is so annoying. It goes back and forth, first it was all lololol Klefbom has nothing on Brodin, then it was the other way around, starting this season Brodin was roaring back and now it's Klefbom again...

I am a Edm supporter but I have also followed both players since juniors (I am Swedish) and they are both great players on their own. I have been adovcating the upsides of both of them even in their darkest hours. Brodin has always been the smarter/better player in his own end, Klefbom has better tools (size). It is a wash right now and anyone of then can/could start moving away drom the other. I'd love for both to be on the Oilers tbh.

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It's amazing how every single thing that goes right for the Oilers gets attributed to Larsson in some way. Klefbom was this good last year, before he had Larsson.
I can agree that Larsson didnt all of a sudden get Klefbom going. The last 20 games of last year prior to injury Klefbom was looking really good (thats with Justin Schultz as a partner)

They have definitely fit well together tho and Larsson was there to save Klefbom a bit when he was having a rough december

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02-15-2017, 03:35 PM
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22/23 is the age where most D break out. OEL/Hedman/Subban all took significant steps at this age. I wonder where Klefbom would rank amongst the U25 Swedish D now

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02-15-2017, 03:41 PM
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That seems like going pretty far to credit someone.

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It's amazing how every single thing that goes right for the Oilers gets attributed to Larsson in some way. Klefbom was this good last year, before he had Larsson.
No, it's amazing how every single thing that goes right for the Oilers has nothing to do with Larsson ... I have not seen any serious post saying all of the Oilers success is due to Larsson, but I have seen many post saying McD, Lucic, Russel, etc and now Klefbom is the reason and Larsson had nothing to do with it.

Both points are obviously crazy, Larsson is not the reason for the Oilers success (as every sane poster understands) but he is a big part of the turn around (as every sane poster understands).

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02-15-2017, 05:57 PM
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yet in oilers GDT's you would think hes the worse dman in the world haha

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02-15-2017, 06:27 PM
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22/23 is the age where most D break out. OEL/Hedman/Subban all took significant steps at this age. I wonder where Klefbom would rank amongst the U25 Swedish D now
Third after Lindholm and Brodin.

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Third after Lindholm and Brodin.
Second ahead of Brodin.

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So it took him almost 50 games to get his first minor penalty?

As a defenceman, that's crazy.

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yet in oilers GDT's you would think hes the worse dman in the world haha
He's not the worst d-man in the world by any means. He's a top 4 d-man. At times a great one. But the praise for him is a bit dishonest in that its ignoring the fact that he makes far too many zero IQ decisions with/without the puck. He's got all the tools you'd ever want in a player. Size, speed, good shot, good passing. But he makes just some terrible decisions with the puck at times.

He's still a good player, but he can be really awful at times. Needs to iron out those mistakes and play with more consistency shift to shift, night to night before the claims of him being a legit top pairing guy are reality. At least imo.

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Didn't realize Mike Green had a lot of 5 on 5 Goals (to be fair this is a really random stat, Defensemen who score Goals tend to do so on the Power Play).

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02-15-2017, 09:39 PM
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For reference, we are talking about 7 even strength goals. What is the value add of a Defenseman's 7 even strength goals as compared to 4 or 5?

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Klefbom is great. Better than Larsson.

But I'd hold your horses on "just behind Brent Burns" in the OP. Klefbom et al have 7 even strength goals. Burns has 18.
No he's not. He's way too inconsistent to be on Larssons level. Larsson is on another level defensively and is one of the meanest players in the NHL and is the model of consistency. Klefbom is streaky and prone to game breaking errors too often still but his overall skill set is unreal.

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For reference, we are talking about 7 even strength goals. What is the value add of a Defenseman's 7 even strength goals as compared to 4 or 5?
Probably 2/3 wins. Considering # of 1 goal games Edmonton has been in

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Who would've thought Klefbom not that hyped in the 2011 draft taken 19th overall would become more Valuable than the 1st overall Pick in the Nuge

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Who would've thought Klefbom not that hyped in the 2011 draft taken 19th overall would become more Valuable than the 1st overall Pick in the Nuge
To be fair, like 16 of the 18 teams who picked before that pick are saying the same thing, and we now posses one of those other 2 players

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Who would've thought Klefbom not that hyped in the 2011 draft taken 19th overall would become more Valuable than the 1st overall Pick in the Nuge
Very true. Although at the draft he was considered a major boom/bust player. We just got lucky he boomed

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That whole draft kind of sucked. Looks like Scheifele is the guy who should have gone first overall.

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That whole draft kind of sucked. Looks like Scheifele is the guy who should have gone first overall.
Turning out ok. No elite stars besides maybe Gaudreau if he figures it out. But some good top line players and some good D

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Klefbom is super underrated.

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