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02-15-2017, 01:04 PM
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Dan may be overreacting a bit. One of his binkies (JFK) and two of mine (JFK and Heinen) are probably guys the Avs desire

I think even if the B's do this deal, their farm system will be in better shape than it's been in years.
Not hard to put 2 and 2 and 2 together based on who was where and get something like this

Gabrielle JFK one of Zboril or Lauzon and a first for Landeskog

You keep Carlo and get the player but traded 4 assets including 3 of your top 12 prospects

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Not hard to put 2 and 2 and 2 together based on who was where and get something like this

Gabrielle JFK one of Zboril or Lauzon and a first for Landeskog

You keep Carlo and get the player but traded 4 assets including 3 of your top 12 prospects
Honestly I'd be 100% disappointed in losing JFK, 50% disappointed in losing Gabrielle, but ok w/ the 1st and JL or JZ

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Out of curiosity, anyone think there's a chance they downgrade the D heading over but upgrade the prospect?

How about something like Zboril, Vatrano, Beleskey and Gabrielle?

It'd hurt to lose Vatrano, but if we've already locked up the top 2 LW and can manage to keep Carlo and McAvoy, it might be worth it. Zboril is a complete wildcard to me, and probably holds more trade value than actual value with his potential anyways.

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I not sold that getting this player makes us really any better he does not seem to be a true sniper

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Jeez how many assets are we looking at here for Landeskog....3...4.....5?
Well, Boston got three for Lucic so I'd expect that Landeskog is also worth three given his age, contract and skills.

Three dimes for a quarter. Man, I would love to be the team for once getting the quarter.

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Not hard to put 2 and 2 and 2 together based on who was where and get something like this

Gabrielle JFK one of Zboril or Lauzon and a first for Landeskog

You keep Carlo and get the player but traded 4 assets including 3 of your top 12 prospects
Would Beleskey be included? I think given the Bruins' prospect pool depth they could afford to make this deal if they feel like Landeskog is a game changer.

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I not sold that getting this player makes us really any better he does not seem to be a true sniper
It makes us better up front, but he's not a "true snipers" and never has been labeled that.

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Hockey News list for the top 30 trade deadline candidates.

http://www.**************.com/Headli...ticleId=454575


Edit: Guess HN prevents copying their article. It is on the ProSport site for viewing of the full article. Apologies for the trouble with the previous link not working.


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Colin Miller
Jakub Zorbil
Matt Beleskey
JFK
1st 2017

Lando
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Not hard to put 2 and 2 and 2 together based on who was where and get something like this

Gabrielle JFK one of Zboril or Lauzon and a first for Landeskog

You keep Carlo and get the player but traded 4 assets including 3 of your top 12 prospects
I think if you can do it while keeping Carlo it's a no brainer

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Would Beleskey be included? I think given the Bruins' prospect pool depth they could afford to make this deal if they feel like Landeskog is a game changer.
The upgrade of Beleskey to Landeskog for 1.7 million more is worth moving a prospect not named Carlo/McAvoy. Now add in the value for the Avs and I can see 3 Bruins prospects moving.

Good news is you can start calling the Bruins prospect pool the 'dirty dozen':

1. McAvoy
2. JFK
3. Senyshyn
4. Gabriele
5. Bjork
6. Lindgren
7. Lauzon
8. DeBrusk
9. Zboril
10. Frederic
11. Carlo
12. Cehlarik

...in no particular order. These are all prospects developing at or above expectations in Boston. Let's stop and appreciate that for a second...






...and then move three of them for help right now!

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The older I get the less I have a love for prospects.

Over the years I have held guys so high that they just crush my spirit.

2007-2012 guys that I thought were going to be better then they are or even make the show are as follows.

Caron
Colbourne
Sauve
Button
Knight
Chudinov
Koko
Camara
Subban
Griffith

Hamilton
Seguin
Spooner

are the only guys that made an impact and Seguin was a no brainer, so was Hamilton, Spooner is the only one that has made a decent impact in all those years.

If we can get Landeskog for a couple later picks, sign me up.

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Hockey News list for the top 30 trade deadline candidates.

http://www.**************.com/Headli...ticleId=454575
Nice article, but one major omission: where is Jimmy Hayes on that list??

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Not hard to put 2 and 2 and 2 together based on who was where and get something like this

Gabrielle JFK one of Zboril or Lauzon and a first for Landeskog

You keep Carlo and get the player but traded 4 assets including 3 of your top 12 prospects
Change JFK to Donato, and that 1st better be 2017.

And I'd make that deal.

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Not hard to put 2 and 2 and 2 together based on who was where and get something like this

Gabrielle JFK one of Zboril or Lauzon and a first for Landeskog

You keep Carlo and get the player but traded 4 assets including 3 of your top 12 prospects
It was suck losing both JFK and Lauzon...

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The upgrade of Beleskey to Landeskog for 1.7 million more is worth moving a prospect not named Carlo/McAvoy. Now add in the value for the Avs and I can see 3 Bruins prospects moving.

Good news is you can start calling the Bruins prospect pool the 'dirty dozen':

1. McAvoy
2. JFK
3. Senyshyn
4. Gabriele
5. Bjork
6. Lindgren
7. Lauzon
8. DeBrusk
9. Zboril
10. Frederic
11. Carlo
12. Cehlarik

...in no particular order. These are all prospects developing at or above expectations in Boston. Let's stop and appreciate that for a second...






...and then move three of them for help right now!
At this point, I don't think Carlo is a prospect. But, what do you guys think about it: Landeskog for 1st 2017, JFK, Zboril/Lauzon, Beleskey (cap resons) and a 2018 pick (3rd?).

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Would Beleskey be included? I think given the Bruins' prospect pool depth they could afford to make this deal if they feel like Landeskog is a game changer.
Why would Colorado want Beleskey makes 0 sense

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The older I get the less I have a love for prospects.

Over the years I have held guys so high that they just crush my spirit.

2007-2012 guys that I thought were going to be better then they are or even make the show are as follows.

Caron
Colbourne
Sauve
Button
Knight
Chudinov
Koko
Camara
Subban
Griffith

Hamilton
Seguin
Spooner

are the only guys that made an impact and Seguin was a no brainer, so was Hamilton, Spooner is the only one that has made a decent impact in all those years.

If we can get Landeskog for a couple later picks, sign me up.
I share your pain. Running joke with my buddies is how many times I penciled in Lashoff as the future #1 paired with Chara.

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Colin Miller
Jakub Zorbil
Matt Beleskey
JFK
1st 2017

Lando
Iggy
That package is rough. Beleskey for Iginla is a slight net win because Iginla is off the books next year, so that's good. But that basically means Colin, Zboril, JFK and a 1st for Landeskog? That seems like overpay.


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Change JFK to Donato, and that 1st better be 2017.

And I'd make that deal.
Donato seems damn near untouchable

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At this point, I don't think Carlo is a prospect. But, what do you guys think about it: Landeskog for 1st 2017, JFK, Zboril/Lauzon, Beleskey (cap resons) and a 2018 pick (3rd?).
Fair enough. Take him out and put Heinen in!

I'd also do that trade.

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The older I get the less I have a love for prospects.

Over the years I have held guys so high that they just crush my spirit.

2007-2012 guys that I thought were going to be better then they are or even make the show are as follows.

Caron
Colbourne
Sauve
Button
Knight
Chudinov
Koko
Camara
Subban
Griffith

Hamilton
Seguin
Spooner

are the only guys that made an impact and Seguin was a no brainer, so was Hamilton, Spooner is the only one that has made a decent impact in all those years.

If we can get Landeskog for a couple later picks, sign me up.

Is it just a coincidence that those were drafted during the PC era?? Since Sweeney took over, I think he has done a much better job of drafting legitimate quality prospects. If Carlo is any indication. Still, I guess we wont know for certain until they play with the big boys..

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Donato seems damn near untouchable
Really? Bruins are that high on Donato?

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The upgrade of Beleskey to Landeskog for 1.7 million more is worth moving a prospect not named Carlo/McAvoy. Now add in the value for the Avs and I can see 3 Bruins prospects moving.

Good news is you can start calling the Bruins prospect pool the 'dirty dozen':

1. McAvoy
2. JFK
3. Senyshyn
4. Gabriele
5. Bjork
6. Lindgren
7. Lauzon
8. DeBrusk
9. Zboril
10. Frederic
11. Carlo
12. Cehlarik

...in no particular order. These are all prospects developing at or above expectations in Boston. Let's stop and appreciate that for a second...






...and then move three of them for help right now!
Donato & Heinen?

You list Carlo but Pastrnak is 20 Vatrano 22 Chiller 23

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Why would Colorado want Beleskey makes 0 sense
It's more Boston wanting him in and most Avs fans being fine with contract coming in (especially a NHL one they can expose in the expansion draft) if it means a sweeter prospect included.

We'd all agree that Beleskey has negative value here but the real equation is 'cap >/< prospect potential'.

How much prospect do you give up for how much cap?

Beleskey out and Landeskog in strictly from a cap perspective means 1.7 million added to upgrade from one to the other. Pretty solid addition there.

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