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Anders Bjork -Update - signed ELC May 30th

Can't believe this kid doesn't have a thread yet. He's have a terrific 3rd year with Notre Dame with numbers not too far off from Vesey's at Harvard last year (also as a 3rd year player).

Aside from being a great hockey prospect (and a steal in round 5), this kid apparently has a ton of character. this is a great article about his community service work with kids:
https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/bjor...nd/c-286818188

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Can't believe this kid doesn't have a thread yet. He's have a terrific 3rd year with Notre Dame with numbers not too far off from Vesey's at Harvard last year (also as a 3rd year player).

Aside from being a great hockey prospect (and a steal in round 5), this kid apparently has a ton of character. this is a great article about his community service work with kids:
https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/bjor...nd/c-286818188
Big fan of this kid. Real good hands, decent speed, tenacious on the puck and decent on the walls. Every Irish game I see he is all over the ice and I mean that in a good way. He forechecks well, rotates through the offensive zone well to make himself available and doesn't mind the gritty areas. I don't think he'll be a world beater at the NHL level but I think he has the potential to be a serviceable middle six guy with a nice scoring touch and two way game.

Solid pick for the fifth round. Hope he continues to progress and then transitions to pro hockey well.

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I'm just hoping he signs after Notre Dames season. He isn't talked about nearly enough, neither is Ryan Donato IMO.

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Once he signs I'll get excited.

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Once he signs I'll get excited.
Would you sign with the apparent logjam in Boston of prospects?

It's one thing to keep them all and hoard them while waiting for a couple to develop. It's another thing to sign with that team when you can finish your degree and sign somewhere where you aren't competing with 9-10 forwards for a job that may never be there.

Vesey didn't sign here for that reason. I know if I had a chance to sign anywhere in the NHL I wouldn't have Boston in my top five.

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Would you sign with the apparent logjam in Boston of prospects?

It's one thing to keep them all and hoard them while waiting for a couple to develop. It's another thing to sign with that team when you can finish your degree and sign somewhere where you aren't competing with 9-10 forwards for a job that may never be there.

Vesey didn't sign here for that reason. I know if I had a chance to sign anywhere in the NHL I wouldn't have Boston in my top five.
Well, in my opinion if a player does not want to sign here because there is too much competition, I'm not sure I want that player. Shows he might not have the drive to reach their true potential.

A true competitor looks at this logjam of prospects and says I'm going to prove I'm better than them all.

To me signing elsewhere because there are a lot of prospects in one spot is a sign of low confidence in a player.

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Would you sign with the apparent logjam in Boston of prospects?

It's one thing to keep them all and hoard them while waiting for a couple to develop. It's another thing to sign with that team when you can finish your degree and sign somewhere where you aren't competing with 9-10 forwards for a job that may never be there.

Vesey didn't sign here for that reason. I know if I had a chance to sign anywhere in the NHL I wouldn't have Boston in my top five.
Would you sign in Boston if your Bjork and you see Marchand and Landeskog occupying the top 2 LW positions on the team, and Pastrnak and Backes on the right, likely for the next 4 seasons after this one (Granted Backes can play C)?

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Would you sign in Boston if your Bjork and you see Marchand and Landeskog occupying the top 2 LW positions on the team, and Pastrnak and Backes on the right, likely for the next 4 seasons after this one (Granted Backes can play C)?
That's an easy yees for me because you can gradually move into a top 6 role or still play top 6 minutes if you get PP/PK time.

If you have a lot more competition in front of you, that might change your mind because you're now in a system that occupies 4 or 5 other wingers in front of you instead of you being at the top of that list.

Again, healthy competition is always great...but some players don't like that.

Example: K.Hayes, Wheeler, etc.

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Well, in my opinion if a player does not want to sign here because there is too much competition, I'm not sure I want that player. Shows he might not have the drive to reach their true potential.

A true competitor looks at this logjam of prospects and says I'm going to prove I'm better than them all.

That's what I love aout this attitude ...

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and what has the kid done since talking the talk? Nothing but walking the walk ...

- 3 NHL combine records
- became youngest 40 goal scorer in the history of his junior franchise
- one of the top 5 goal scorers from the vaunted 2015 draft
- highest producing Bruin prospects in D+1 2015-16
- highest producing Bruin prospects in D+2 2016-17

If Bjork has even half Gabrielle's heart & work ethic, he'll sign. Warriors always want to compete, internally and externally. That's what makes them warriors

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That's what I love aout this attitude ...



and what has the kid done since talking the talk? Nothing but walking the walk ...

- 3 NHL combine records
- became youngest 40 goal scorer in the history of his junior franchise
- one of the top 5 goal scorers from the vaunted 2015 draft
- highest producing Bruin prospects in D+1 2015-16
- highest producing Bruin prospects in D+2 2016-17

If Bjork has even half Gabrielle's heart & work ethic, he'll sign. Warriors always want to compete, internally and externally. That's what makes them warriors
That's a fantastic quote. That's the attitude I want from players. To me if their logic for using the college loophole is our logjam of players, then see ya - don't let the door hit you on the way out. There are some more legit reasons for players to play the 4 years and sign elsewhere that I would accept.

Truth is, the best players in the world love competition and actually look for it. If a player is scared to sign here because he will not be handed ice time, then guys like Gabrielle will gladly take that chance that they gave up - and likely make the most of it.

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That's an easy yees for me because you can gradually move into a top 6 role or still play top 6 minutes if you get PP/PK time.

If you have a lot more competition in front of you, that might change your mind because you're now in a system that occupies 4 or 5 other wingers in front of you instead of you being at the top of that list.

Again, healthy competition is always great...but some players don't like that.

Example: K.Hayes, Wheeler, etc.
I don't disagree. Personally, Landeskog or no Landeskog, I still think Bjork signs here.

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Bjork should not be dissuaded from signing because if a fear he'd be nosed out by others. On LW there are Cehlarik, Vatrano, Heinen and DeBrusk. The latter two have not yet demonstrated they are NHL caliber wingers at this point.

Cehlarik had a couple of good games with Krejci, coupled with a solid season with Providence. He still has to establish himself, however, as a consistent winger on this roster.

Vatrano shows a great shot and the ability to get open. His total game, though, has not yet been clear. So Bjork should be able to compete with the left wingers on this team and those in AHL. Bear in mind, too, that he also plays right wing and has done so for most of this season with the Irish.

If the Bruins acquire Landeskog, however, that would complicate things for Anders.

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Well, in my opinion if a player does not want to sign here because there is too much competition, I'm not sure I want that player. Shows he might not have the drive to reach their true potential.

A true competitor looks at this logjam of prospects and says I'm going to prove I'm better than them all.

To me signing elsewhere because there are a lot of prospects in one spot is a sign of low confidence in a player.
You can be the hardest working dude in the world and still be pragmatic about which situation is best for you. Rookie contracts are short and it's easy for hard working first and second year players to get buried on depth charts. I'd want to get playing time before restricted free agency and no matter how hard I work, that's more likely on a team with less of a logjam.

I'll be excited if he signs.

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On LW there are Cehlarik, Vatrano, Heinen and DeBrusk.
Don't forget about Blidh, Donato, Hughes, Frederic (apparently), Kuraly, Hargrove, possibly Spooner and the aforementioned Gabrielle, who just seems to out work and out produce everyone.

Seems in one thread where we try and make a case we don't need Landeskog the list of LW is a mile long, but now in this thread where there is a concern about a log jam at LW dissuading Bjork, the list magically whittles down to 4?

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Would you sign in Boston if your Bjork and you see Marchand and Landeskog occupying the top 2 LW positions on the team, and Pastrnak and Backes on the right, likely for the next 4 seasons after this one (Granted Backes can play C)?
And add in the other prospects there as well and I can see why players look at NCAA as a way to get a degree, develop their skills and then choose their franchise.

Sounds bad but how much regret do you think Wheeler, Vesey and company have now looking back?

The line is always 'if they are the best player at camp, we'll make room.'

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Don't forget about Blidh, Donato, Hughes, Frederic (apparently), Kuraly, Hargrove, possibly Spooner and the aforementioned Gabrielle, who just seems to out work and out produce everyone.

Seems in one thread where we try and make a case we don't need Landeskog the list of LW is a mile long, but now in this thread where there is a concern about a log jam at LW dissuading Bjork, the list magically whittles down to 4?
Not forgetting about them, Fonz. Donato, Kuraly and Frederic are centers. Bligh and Hughes are not rated so high, or, at least, don't have the skill set that Bjork has. Gabby could give him a run at DC and TC if he leaves Notre Dame early.

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I'm hopeful he will sign at the end of the college season. If he's good enough they'll make room. And he may very well be good enough to be on the second or third line next season with Krejci Spooner or backes centering him

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Sounds bad but how much regret do you think Wheeler, Vesey and company have now looking back?
It's a fair point. No secret around here that I am not a fan of what those guys did (yes, yes, I know, it's within their right in the CBA), but if Vesey hadn't of done what he did there is a good chance he would be in the American Hockey League right now. I guess you goota do what you gotts do, but I'm still a fan of getting in line, paying your dues and working your way up the old fashioned way. Of course, I'm sure they learn different at Harvard. I'm just an old country boy.

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Went to see Bjork play at Merrimack last month and he was first star but more importantly he really stood out

I would trade my first round pick before him

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Don't forget about Blidh, Donato, Hughes, Frederic (apparently), Kuraly, Hargrove, possibly Spooner and the aforementioned Gabrielle, who just seems to out work and out produce everyone.

Seems in one thread where we try and make a case we don't need Landeskog the list of LW is a mile long, but now in this thread where there is a concern about a log jam at LW dissuading Bjork, the list magically whittles down to 4?
Donato and Frederic are C's first (as is Spooner). Bjork (based on college performance) projects ahead of Hughes, Kuraly, Blidh, Hargrove, etc. Heinen and Cehlarik can both play the right side as well.

I would think that Bjork's primary competition will come from DeBrusk, Gabrielle, and Vatrano. Maybe Cehlarik/Heinen if they stay on that side.

Also, some of those names could be gone in a deal for Landeskog or a similar player.

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Not forgetting about them, Fonz. Donato, Kuraly and Frederic are centers. Bligh and Hughes are not rated so high, or, at least, don't have the skill set that Bjork has. Gabby could give him a run at DC and TC if he leaves Notre Dame early.
I didn't mean that to sound pointed Ratty. I said the same yesterday and was chastised for thinking that Frederic and Donato would be centers at this level or that any of the prospects would be able to play right wing. I guess I'll stick to checkers from now on

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Donato and Frederic are C's first (as is Spooner). Bjork (based on college performance) projects ahead of Hughes, Kuraly, Blidh, Hargrove, etc. Heinen and Cehlarik can both play the right side as well.

I would think that Bjork's primary competition will come from DeBrusk, Gabrielle, and Vatrano. Maybe Cehlarik/Heinen if they stay on that side.
LOL I know. I was being cheeky. I said the same thing yesterday and got poo-poo'd

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LOL I know. I was being cheeky. I said the same thing yesterday and got poo-poo'd
Sorry, I missed the exchange yesterday.

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Sorry, I missed the exchange yesterday.
You didn't miss much. It got real repetitive real quick

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And add in the other prospects there as well and I can see why players look at NCAA as a way to get a degree, develop their skills and then choose their franchise.

Sounds bad but how much regret do you think Wheeler, Vesey and company have now looking back?

The line is always 'if they are the best player at camp, we'll make room.'
None probably.

Me being optimistic, I think Bjork signs here.

But each case is so unique, it's hard to say what these NCAA guys do. Almost becomes a crap-shoot.

And what motivates a guy to sign, or not to sign, with the team that drafts him varies from player to player. Vesey would of been gifted a spot in Nashville, and he still had zero interest.

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