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Predators will sell out every home game for first time in team history

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02-19-2017, 10:56 AM
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One of few teams/cities on my list to go see a game in. It just seems like an awesome city to catch a game and hit out a bunch of other cool stuff.

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To answer the question about 100.5%, the Preds installed a SRO section which raises the percentage but when this is full, the arena feels like a sardine can.

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This should not be very surprising. There are very few entertaining hockey teams left in the NHL. The Preds are one.

It's a combination of an entertainment-rich city, raucous, fun-loving fans and an interesting, fun team to watch.

Hopefully, George McPhee is taking notes. He has a CHANCE to do similarly in Vegas. Just don't screw it up by trying to be a super-competitive team immediately. In other words, do not hire Ken Hitchcock to coach your team.

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a quick look at the ESPN boxscores for the last 12 or so home games show all but one list the identical number in attendance: 17,113 (100.0%). the other lists 17,204 (100.5%).

perhaps it's a reporting issue, but when numbers line up so perfectly, that raises flags for me. having exactly that same number in attendance, game after game, seems unlikely to me and makes me wonder who purchased the tickets ... especially given first hand reports here that many of the seats were not filled.

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17,113 is the Capacity of their arena, and they have sold out every game. The one game over capacity was due to standing room only tickets. Its not that difficult dude. Does the Canadiens always being at 21,273 concern you? Is it that they are cooking the numbers or is it because their arena holds 21,273 and they have sold out every game

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Never trust the crowd counts. Teams need to average a certain amount to get NHL revenue sharing.
That number was 14,000 anyway, a number the Preds have been well above for more than a decade now. Try again

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17,113 is the Capacity of their arena, and they have sold out every game. The one game over capacity was due to standing room only tickets. Its not that difficult dude. Does the Canadiens always being at 21,273 concern you? Is it that they are cooking the numbers or is it because their arena holds 21,273 and they have sold out every game
my concern was with the exactness of the reported #. im more familiar with official sold-out attendance figures that do vary, perhaps ever so slightly - likely because of SRO - rather than reported numbers being the same each time. that in combination with reports here of apparently non-full arena some nights just made me wonder. but thanks for graciously pointing out another example of reported attendance not varying. (fwiw, espn is reporting canadiens attendance consistently at 21,288)

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03-04-2017, 01:12 PM
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my concern was with the exactness of the reported #. im more familiar with official sold-out attendance figures that do vary, perhaps ever so slightly - likely because of SRO - rather than reported numbers being the same each time. that in combination with reports here of apparently non-full arena some nights just made me wonder. but thanks for graciously pointing out another example of reported attendance not varying. (fwiw, espn is reporting canadiens attendance consistently at 21,288)
it appears non-full because of all the empty seats in the lower bowl which are Lexus Lounge seats. Those are corporate ticket holders that stay in The Lexus Lounge all night drinking and eating. Same thing happens in Toronto all the time. People pay 25K per year and never use the seats they buy. It makes the arena look worse than it really is. But they are in attendance just not in their seats.

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It's official!! The team sold out all 41 games this season. Bring out the haters!!

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It's official!! The team sold out all 41 games this season. Bring out the haters!!
.... not gonna happen Gnash..... and Congratz!

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It's official!! The team sold out all 41 games this season. Bring out the haters!!
I still don't trust those numbers. The owners obviously bought up several of those just to say they were sold out. Last Friday night before the 1PM Saturday game against the Wild, there were still over 1,000 unsold tickets (not including the resell market, nor the 100 day of game tickets). I don't see them selling that many last minute tickets.

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I still don't trust those numbers. The owners obviously bought up several of those just to say they were sold out. Last Friday night before the 1PM Saturday game against the Wild, there were still over 1,000 unsold tickets (not including the resell market, nor the 100 day of game tickets). I don't see them selling that many last minute tickets.
I tried to get 2 tickets together for the Wild game on Wednesday night, and there was nothing available together, just singles, and 42 dollar face value tickets were going for 111 on StubHub, so I'm not sure you're right.

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I still don't trust those numbers. The owners obviously bought up several of those just to say they were sold out. Last Friday night before the 1PM Saturday game against the Wild, there were still over 1,000 unsold tickets (not including the resell market, nor the 100 day of game tickets). I don't see them selling that many last minute tickets.
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I tried to get 2 tickets together for the Wild game on Wednesday night, and there was nothing available together, just singles, and 42 dollar face value tickets were going for 111 on StubHub, so I'm not sure you're right.
I was certain the team had to disclose ticket sales to the city, and were barred from buying the tickets themselves?

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I was certain the team had to disclose ticket sales to the city, and were barred from buying the tickets themselves?
They team can give away a certain amount of tickets, but even that is regulated by the league's own regulations around such. They can't "pad" the numbers like Preds33 is suggesting.

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Great news for the Preds and for Nashville! Nashville is top 3 on the list of places I want to travel to see the Jets play next season. The crowd is always loud and engaged in the game. Nashville has done a great job of getting a non-traditional hockey market to embrace the game and make it their own.

I am very disappointed at the number of negative comments on here.

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I still don't trust those numbers. The owners obviously bought up several of those just to say they were sold out. Last Friday night before the 1PM Saturday game against the Wild, there were still over 1,000 unsold tickets (not including the resell market, nor the 100 day of game tickets). I don't see them selling that many last minute tickets.
This happens in every market in every sport, teams fudge number sometimes to get a sellout.


The reason for the 100 game day tickets is to create demand that day.

Example one time: I missed out on those cheap tickets but my daughter still wanted to go so I bought "normal" tickets on game day.

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I tried to get 2 tickets together for the Wild game on Wednesday night, and there was nothing available together, just singles, and 42 dollar face value tickets were going for 111 on StubHub, so I'm not sure you're right.
I saw multiples together, I almost bought 2 together in 307 Friday night to give to my dad but I couldn't get in touch with him with enough time for him to go. And this was through my season ticket holder account, not straight ticketmaster.

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Very cool about the sellouts! It is great to see Nashville doing so well, I would love to go to a game there.

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This happens in every market in every sport, teams fudge number sometimes to get a sellout.


The reason for the 100 game day tickets is to create demand that day.

Example one time: I missed out on those cheap tickets but my daughter still wanted to go so I bought "normal" tickets on game day.
But setting aside the gameday hundred, how can they announce in advance that the game is sold out if there are ordinary tickets available for purchase?

I feel like I'm missing something here, this isn't just fudging the numbers. If there are tickets unsold then it's not a sellout...

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But setting aside the gameday hundred, how can they announce in advance that the game is sold out if there are ordinary tickets available for purchase?

I feel like I'm missing something here, this isn't just fudging the numbers. If there are tickets unsold then it's not a sellout...
Are the other tickets from Season ticket holders trying to sell their tickets through the team? IOW the tickets have been sold, but it's just another "secondary" market?

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Off on a tangent but I was at a conference in Nashville last summer and really liked the city and the location of things downtown. Just seemed to be really well layed out with the arena, football stadium across the river, big ass convention center and broadway all nicely situated.

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Are the other tickets from Season ticket holders trying to sell their tickets through the team? IOW the tickets have been sold, but it's just another "secondary" market?
Could be. I don't know whether the teams put their exchange tickets up for sale on the direct-sale site or not.

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But setting aside the gameday hundred, how can they announce in advance that the game is sold out if there are ordinary tickets available for purchase?

I feel like I'm missing something here, this isn't just fudging the numbers. If there are tickets unsold then it's not a sellout...
They were re-sell tickets through the team, since they are already sold they are counted as sold tickets. The 100 is about the only "new" tickets available anymore. In the past they also sold their available tickets that day during the 10AM sell, but all have been sold already anymore. The team, like every team, also sell tickets returned by the league which become available 48 hours before face off. Those are for visiting team players and the league use. Unless it's a Fathers trip or something most teams don't use their allotment. For the most part the lower bowl is sold out months in advance and it's only upper deck tickets now that are usually available. The 100 game day tickets are just tradition anymore.

The whole "owners are buying up tickets" (which was stated by the Canadian Press trying to deride the market) is just not applicable anymore.


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They were re-sell tickets through the team, since they are already sold they are counted as sold tickets. The 100 is about the only "new" tickets available anymore. In the past they also sold their available tickets that day during the 10AM sell, but all have been sold already anymore. The team like every team also sell tickets returned by the league which become available 48 hours before face off. Those are for visiting team players and the league use. Unless it's a Fathers trip or something most teams don't use their allotment. For the most part the lower bowl is sold out months in advance and it's only upper deck tickets now that are usually available. The 100 game day tickets are just tradition anymore.
Great job by the Predators fans for the support they gave their team!


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But setting aside the gameday hundred, how can they announce in advance that the game is sold out if there are ordinary tickets available for purchase?

I feel like I'm missing something here, this isn't just fudging the numbers. If there are tickets unsold then it's not a sellout...
By NHL definition... a sellout “constitutes tickets distributed, not tickets sold”.

No knock on Nashville, because it's great to have the support they do, I'm just stating how the NHL defines a sellout.

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By NHL definition... a sellout “constitutes tickets distributed, not tickets sold”.

No knock on Nashville, because it's great to have the support they do, I'm just stating how the NHL defines a sellout.
The Sens could sell like 20,300 tickets before their reconfiguration. But a sellout was far, far less. Because you can oversell a boxes regular tickets or sell standing room tickets.

You can have some boxes that are allotted 8 "seats" sell 14 seats and have actual seats in the stands go unsold and call it a "sell out".

I have been in the stands and seen small sections of the seats that are at certain price points obviously empty. But it was a "sell out".

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